Hi
Nuance make the voices. Apple make computers and other hardware and OS. Apple
is the big boss. If Apple tell Nuance to jump. Nuance jump. Apple should tell
Nuance to make good voices for all countries.
Take care
5. nov. 2013 kl. 09:45 skrev BBS :
> I gotta interject here because you’re tal
wth Shawn? The bug of the nuance voices isn't a vocalizer bug, cause on other
platforms it doesn't exists.
Apple does something weird with email addresses and urls to give it to the tts
engine.
What I conclude from your reaction is that you find no bugs in voiceover at all
and so intermidiate u
First, I'm sure most if not all people on this list would agree that VoiceOver
is, in many respects, better than Windows screen readers. That is probably why
we are using Macs with VoiceOver after all. However, the lack of frequent
updates, if indeed updates to VoiceOver are less frequent than W
I gotta interject here because you’re talking about voices. Those Dutch and
English voices you’re talking about aren’t made by Apple. These are Vocalizer
Expressive voices which are made by Nuance. So therefore, Apple can’t do
anything with these voices because Nuance is in charge of them. As fo
the thing is, you can't compare vo with an app for office stuff.
the vo behaviour is the same like on other platforms.
Microsoft, such as others, gnome for example, provide accessibility information
in their components.
Jaws / Window-Eyes or orca on linux does the same as voiceover, it reads the
Hi,
You are correct in that VoiceOver can have bugs that are independent of the
Accessibility layer. The issue, in my opinion, though is that VoiceOver is not
really an app in the same sense as iTunes or Microsoft Office etc. The MacOS
is not available without VoiceOver. You do not install V
you have:
- the accessibility layer itself (compontents of the os that provide
accessibility information)
- voiceover screen that interacts with the accessibility layer.
VoiceOver can like other programs have bugs that has nothing to do with the
underlying accessibility layer of the
okay.
perhaps that explains the Cause of updates being made only in osx system
updates.
but without certainties.
but so far was the best explanation of the topic.
thanks.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 13:13, Tim Kilburn escreveu:
Hi,
The issue with automatic updates to VoiceOver has been skirted arou
Hi,
The issue with automatic updates to VoiceOver has been skirted around here but
not clearly enough in my opinion. VoiceOver is not just a bolted on app to the
MacOS, it is a part of the OS itself. While you could update specific code
within the screenreader service, the majority of fixes a
no, what I said, is that the voice over also has bugs independently of apps.
sorry but I do not think that way .
I only want the best for the voice over, I'm not comparing windows and mac.
please do not misunderstand me .
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 08:49, BBS escreveu:
I can tell you my answer rig
I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be like Jaws or
Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover were updated constantly,
that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that have been inaccessible will remain
inaccessible until the app developers fix those issues themse
hi nicholas.
I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard
sustema osx, or other companies.
but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that to be fixed.
The voice over is not immune to bugs.
we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
and also
Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, just
as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, even
though those aren't separate applications.
More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main
accessibility issues we have are
Hello Mario,
VoiceOver is not a screen reader like JAWS or NVDA, it is an alternative way of
interacting with the operating system. VoiceOver is not a separate application
in the OS, so what you are requesting makes no sense.
Updates happen to VoiceOver just as they do to the other elements of
hi friends.
I would like to ask a favor to friends group.
about a feature that is very important for users of voice over and the
team Accessibility apple.
why support accessibility does not add a feature for voice over have
automatic updates? ...
is assumed the commitment to support the acce
I think the tone is more than sufficient to alert you to a spelling mistake.
Extra speech would just be confusing.
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Hi. I agree. I believe that just hearing the tone would do the trick.
Besides, if you waited for your Mac to say the word that was mis-pronounced,
you might be opening up a whole can of worms if you are working in a
multilingual context. What I like about the voices I have is that when writin
Anne, yes. Mine plays a tone when it encounters a mis-spelled word. I am so
excited about the idea of seeing this implemented that I will write a note to
the Apple accessibility people right away.
Cheers,
Mike
On 12,Jul,2010, at 11:33 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Have you set it t
In the VO utility you can set VO to either use speech to warn the user if a
word is spelt incorrect or you can set VO to beep, or you can set it to simply
do nothing.
On 13 Jul 2010, at 00:48, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> I don't think this is currently possible, though tere are commands to move to
> t
I don't think this is currently possible, though tere are commands to move to
the next and previous misspelled word. This assumes that you have the feature
to check spelling as you type enabled of course, personally I keep this
disabled since I find it annoying, but it's a personal preference.
O
Oh yeah I like tht even better.
S
On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> On the pc side of things there once was a little known office suite called
> Easy office. It wasn't very accessible but it had a very cool feature in its
> word processor: If you typed a word that the
Not so sure this would be as easy. First the one problem might be in how a word
is pronounced vs how it is spelled. SO, what I mean is sometimes a word is
spelled correctly, but not pronounced correctly. So, even if you hear the word,
the "buzz" is more likely to grab your attention then just he
Mike,
Have you set it to play a tone when encountering a misspelled word? I have mine
set that way and it alerts me to misspelled words when typing. However, I have
typing echo set to words.
Cheers,
Anne
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I think I'd really rather it say misspelled personally.
On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> On the pc side of things there once was a little known office suite called
> Easy office. It wasn't very accessible but it had a very cool feature in its
> word processor: If you
Hi,
On the pc side of things there once was a little known office suite called Easy
office. It wasn't very accessible but it had a very cool feature in its word
processor: If you typed a word that the spell checker thought was misspelled,
it actually sent this misspelled word to the sapi speech
Send a note to the accessibil...@apple.com address and thanks for reminding me,
I meant to do this a while ago and it slipped my mind.
On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> Hmm... I don't know about this as I've never had my Keyboard to speak
> *nothing* when typing. I use the Speak
It would make sense that the feature would kick in when a mis-spelled word is
voiced. However, my concentration flags if, while writing, the computer is
"speaking."
Thank you.
On 12,Jul,2010, at 9:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> Hmm... I don't know about this as I've never had my Keyboard to speak
Hello Nic,
Before responding to what you wrote, I need to thank you once again for your
assistance with the multilingual issue I was having earlier. You and Anne were
extremely helpful! Now, I am happily writing texts in German and actually
understanding what I write, using high-quality Germa
I also have my keyboard speak nothing and it would be good if that feature were
there. I can't find how to do it though.
S
On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> Hmm... I don't know about this as I've never had my Keyboard to speak
> *nothing* when typing. I use the Speak Words sett
Hi,
When I set it to words, this happens just the way you describe it. Of course,
that requires VoiceOver says the word, of course.
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Hmm... I don't know about this as I've never had my Keyboard to speak *nothing*
when typing. I use the Speak Words setting in VoiceOver Prefs.
On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> One of the things I love about Voice Over is the way that it alerts us when a
> mis-spelled word
One of the things I love about Voice Over is the way that it alerts us when a
mis-spelled word is encountered while reading. While this is really cool, I am
wondering if it is possible to take advantage of this feature while typing.
Whenever I type, my keyboard is silent, the way I like it. H
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> Subject: Re: Voice over feature
>
> Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
: Voice over feature
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote:
Hello all,
I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable
a user to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions
associated for a particular
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable a user
> to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions associated for a
> particular hotspot would be a very pow
Hello all,
I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable a user
to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions associated for a
particular hotspot would be a very powerful voice over tool.
Thanks
Edward
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