Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks much Jonathan, When I first had the mac configured I insured that both voiceover, and voice control were active, I have not tried it as of yet. To be honest, I would hope to blend the use, hopefully I can type my own messages, but would say send or open things as it were. On Tue, 28 J

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Care, I turn on voice command on my computer, and said "switch to mail". I then told it two "click reply" That opened this message. The dictation with Voice Command was not that great though. And I am typing that with voice command. I did do some editing, and now I will say "click "click se

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
what I mean by a more fluid display layout is one that would have resulted in what Herbie indicated being the case. a text field where a program name can be typed. knowing about vo-z will be helpful, assuming the keystroke is not too challenging finger wise. I have small hands, and this is re

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
For the stores that provide lessons that is the case...and according to main Apple support, there are rather a few. to be sure the Pandemic is impacting locations providing the service, but I had more than one choice here. On Tue, 28 Jun 2022, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, you are very fortu

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks Jonathan, My mac partner is enjoying the voiceover adventure, might want to do it with the tool, just wanted to give him choices. Interestingly enough when I went through the voices part of the voiceover tutorial, there are not 200 from which to choose. Is there a list anywhere? Outside

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, I am not sure what you mean by a fluid layout, there might be a way to adjust VoiceOver to work this way if I am understanding what you want. Are you looking to avoid the interact/stop interact functions? To repeat what VoiceOver just said, press VO-z. (if you make the Z uppercase, it sav

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Les Kriegler
Well, you are very fortunate then. Because I don’t think that is typical. But I am glad to know that you were able to find a quiet environment in which to work. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > The voices are retrieved from VoiceOver Utility. I don't

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Karen, you will travel your own path of discovery. Each of us have our own unique challenge but for the most part, we can seek solutions here because most of us are grounded in daily use of Voiceover. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent re

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
The voices are retrieved from VoiceOver Utility. I don't believe you need VoiceOver running to do this. Here are the seps that a sighted person would do as best as I can tell. Open the finder 2. In a finder window use the Go menu to switch to utilities 3. Open the program 4. Click on speech in

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Actually, speaking only for myself, this is not correct. The apple location where I intend visiting is the same one where I would previously go and seek a safe for my use IOS voice. They have a small room where they provide classes, are allowing me to speak with the technician in advance, as we

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
You mean like the voiceover users at apple accessibility? who 1, gave me wrong information corrected on this list more than once. 2. began to claim I needed to upgrade in the middle of a crisis? To be honest, my experiences have been more positive with general apple staff than the, by your defi

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Les Kriegler
In addition, unless things have changed, I think you would be very disappointed if you go to an Apple Store for training. It is a very noisy environment and even if you can find someone know something about voiceover, I don’t think you’re going to get the results you desire by going there. Sent

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
An Apple store visit is fine but there is nothing ;like working with a Voiceover user who uses VO day in day out. If you have sighted helper, yes you can turn VO off. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
That is what an apple store is for. My first priority to be honest is getting a solid enough voice. The onboard tutorial is helping, but again I am far more used to greater keyboard dexterity, meaning I will make mistakes while trying to learn voiceover itself. Oh yet another question on that

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Karen, I would strongly suggest you put your focus solely on mastering Voiceover before venturing into other areas. Get a handle on the Voiceover commands as well as those the the standard Mac commands. Find a local Voiceover user and invite him/her to come over and work with you. From