Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-18 Thread E.T.
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver. If you want to discuss the beta’s freely, and you are using at least one beta on 1 of your devices, you can join my beta list Are you testing an apple beta? want to discuss bugs with other testers? Then come join a friendly,

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks for this I think I will join this also. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 3:24 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Kawal, haha well said and for the record I’m on your side with this one. To me though moderators are more like little power hungry DMV workers who have no control over their own lives so they have to force their wills where they can. (Kawal and folks over sees the DMV is the department of moto

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
ET, for years the moderator's notes have not really change. They are forever telling someone off and so it is like a kid being naughty doing the same over and over. I'd rather laugh otherwise we'll all get in to a punch up as it were. Don't forget, what are we, people who don't really know ea

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
What I have found, and still find after all these years. amusing is how the "kids" show total lack of maturity. Kawal, you do not need to subject yourself to the whims of the moderators, just show yourself out. Doing so would prove your own maturity. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Sorry, but I find moderator's notes amusing. You don't know how much I laugh because little things turn in to big things. I've not had such a laugh for a long time on this list. May be I'll get in to trouble, but at this point, I am not too worried. Cara sounds like the head mistress, Mark s

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Thanks ET. Appreciate that. Will read this over as soon as I can. Have a great day! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 10, 2017

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Apple's public beta NDA agreement at the following link... From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Scott, First off, I have not seen every post from Mark. I can assure you though that if he has inadvertently posted anything that was under beta, it was an accident. I’ve spoken with him and I trust him implicitly otherwise he would not be moderating this list. My understanding is that any

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Yes it really is. When mark posts tens of articles on IOS 11 which is still in beta yet complains when Anders asks a legitimate question that impacts our community there is something clearly wrong. I don’t need to know you personally to know your personal feelings, remember the phrase actions

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread M. Taylor
isionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 5:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver. Hi mark! I am sorry for that one. Not even public beta questions? If not then i am very sorry to ask this here. /A >

Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey Scott, Why are you saying this policy has to do with personal feelings when you have not taken any time at all to get to know either me or Mark? You have no idea what our personal feelings are on this. -Okay, to be fair, perhaps you have gotten to know Mark unbeknownst to me, but I know yo

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Resistance is futile. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/10/2017 8:23 AM, Scott Gr

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
How long does it take to be accepted? Maybe I am too impatient? 3 days? (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mai

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kliphton Miller
If you want to discuss the beta’s freely, and you are using at least one beta on 1 of your devices, you can join my beta list Are you testing an apple beta? want to discuss bugs with other testers? Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid back community where we can squash these bugs together,

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Well I know I was invited to join an Apple VIS public beta discussion and like I said, I’ll trust the suits from Harvard a great deal more than any legal advice on list.:) > On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:17 AM, E.T. wrote: > > Even Applevis puts restrictions on discussions regarding betas. > >

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Even Applevis puts restrictions on discussions regarding betas. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
To answer Anders question, there has been a lot of discussion on the routing of voice over and air play. I have not tried this personally as I’m a google cast man myself but I do know there’s a lot of consternation and unhappy posts on the topic. If we weren’t being treated like children we sho

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Why join a list when the rules are based in some arbitrary feeling that is based on personal feelings rather than the law? That’s just silly. Counter to you, on any list I run feel free to discuss public anything as much as you like. Public betas to public flogging, doesn’t matter to me. Nor

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Ray, again you’re wrong. I have had the council for two companies I have worked for evaluate this and they say not only is it acceptable to discuss public beta items on public lists but it’ was acceptable for me to do so representing the interests of the companies so not only was I protected as

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Anders, for some reason Mark won’t let us discuss what’s available absolutely everywhere else including articles posted to me every day on redmondpie and 9 to 5 Mac among others. Even though it’s critical for we blind to participate in the public betas to report on Voice over issues because we’

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, in answer to this then, you can contact me with any beta discussion at challswor...@icloud.com Please allow some patience as I tend to check email a few days apart. Cheers! > On 10 Aug 2017, at 04:57, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Anders, > > Beta software questions are not for this list.

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
I am, and will still stand by mine and the group management thoughts on this. Questions about either Developer or public betas should not be allowed, in my opinion. Nough said. I do not allow such discussion on my own general technology list, which, btw you are more than welcome to join. Please

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Ray Foret jr
Not even public beta questions. Why? Simple. It’s still beta and therefore, falls under Apple’s non disclosure agreement. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Gu

Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi mark! I am sorry for that one. Not even public beta questions? If not then i am very sorry to ask this here. /A > 10 aug. 2017 kl. 05:57 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Anders, > > Beta software questions are not for this list. > > If you have beta software questions, you may request that list

RE: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-09 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Anders, Beta software questions are not for this list. If you have beta software questions, you may request that list members contact you, off-list. Please be sure to include your direct email address in the body of the post. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisio

RE: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks David, Tha’ts making sense. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 1:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 11 beta question Hi Simon, It is not a carrier issue. It is

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Scott Granados
That is absolutely highway robbery. In contrast, I pay $50 per month for unlimited service, unlimited data and my voice translation for voicemail is $3 the visual mail itself is included. Almost seems worth getting a phone in the states and paying the very small 4G roaming fee. > On Jul 26, 2

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread David Chittenden
Hi Simon, It is not a carrier issue. It is a change instituted by Apple. I suspect they received complaints from people because of the automatic connect when the voicemail button was touched. Visual voice mail is not available in NZ. I started receiving it when I shifted to AU. With visual voi

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
I cant c how its a carry issue. And what the hell is visual voicemail? Sent from my iPhone On 27/07/2017, at 7:06 AM, Shawn Krasniuk mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote: Hi Scott. As you and David have said, it is a carrier problem. I would like to add that it doesn't have anything to do with v

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Scott. I just got off the phone with Bell. According to them, they have a basic visual voicemail plan which costs $5 or one where it translates voicemails to text which is $13. So either way, with the plan that I have which is 10 GB of data plus unlimited talk and text province wide, I'd be p

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Scott Granados
Boy, you folks in Canada really get held over a barrel for your services up there. Seems very expensive. Visual voicemail is a free option here. The only VM related option I pay for is translation of the VM in to text so I can read them and not even have to log in to the VM. Other than that

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Scott. As you and David have said, it is a carrier problem. I would like to add that it doesn't have anything to do with visual voicemail. I don't know about New Zealand, but here in Canada, visual voicemail doesn't come standard. At least for Bell and Telus anyway, don't know about Rogers. I

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Scott Granados
That seems to be a carrier problem where you’re not interfacing with the visual voicemail server. On T-Mobile my voicemail app is working as it always has. > On Jul 26, 2017, at 2:46 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi IOS Beta Testers, > > Just wondering if anyone else other than myself is find

RE: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
I guessed the shutdown was but the voicemail is a pain in the ass. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 7:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 11 beta question That shut

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread David Chittenden
Please be aware, this is only for those who are with carriers that do not provide visual uoicemail, so you may not receive many responses. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 26/07/2017, at 17:29, Kliphton Mill

Re: IOS 11 beta question

2017-07-26 Thread Kliphton Miller
That shut down button has been there since beta 1. I am with t mobile, and I do not have this issue with voice mail. You want more answers from beta testers, come join my group Are you testing an apple beta? want to discuss bugs with other testers? Then come join a friendly, helpful, laid ba

RE: ios 11 beta

2017-07-04 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ios 11 beta Regardless of beta software on the Watch, I’ve had times when the Ping feature didn’t work. Simply turning off and back on at the phone end, once I found said phone that is, restored it. As for how to get the Watch beta for watchOS4, that I haven’t done yet

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-03 Thread Jenine Stanley
> But now the pods connect with out issue to the watch. > > . > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley > Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 2:13 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ios 11 bet

RE: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Simon Fogarty
Subject: Re: ios 11 beta That’s Chick to you, Sir. *grin* On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:29 AM, David & his pack of dogs mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Girls and their toys. LOL. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@goog

RE: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley Sent: Monday, 3 July 2017 2:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ios 11 beta Simon, Just tried this using iOS11 beta on my 6S and my original Apple Watch running watchOS 3.2.3 Dev

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Kevin Chao
Installing beta configuration profile certificate on Apple Watch is straightforward and can be done via iPhone. Similar to activating the link for iPhone, one only need select “Watch” as destination. On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:26 PM Scott Granados wrote: > Oh that’s not bad. I have Xcode installe

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Scott Granados
Oh that’s not bad. I have Xcode installed and am familiar with what it installs. Thanks for the info. > On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:21 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > You Need to be Using Xcode, so People That Don’t Have Max Essentially Cannot > do This Process. You Need Xcode to Get The UD ID of Yo

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Daniel Miller
You Need to be Using Xcode, so People That Don’t Have Max Essentially Cannot do This Process. You Need Xcode to Get The UD ID of Your Watch, Which Can Only be Found When Impaired iPhone is Connected to The Computer. Once The UD ID is Registered With The Developer site, Then You Install The Beta

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Scott Granados
How difficult is it to install the beta on the watch? I thought this was a very involved process, did you find it simple or have things changed since I last looked? Thanks > On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > Simon, Just tried this using iOS11 beta on my 6S and my origina

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread E.T.
.com] *On Behalf Of *Jenine Stanley *Sent:* July 2, 2017 7:49 AM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: ios 11 beta That’s Chick to you, Sir. *grin* On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:29 AM, David & his pack of dogs mailto:myguidedo...@gmail.com>> wrote: Girls and t

RE: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread David & his pack of dogs
Smile, when you say that baby! Oh, sorry, I forgot. Chick. LOL. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley Sent: July 2, 2017 7:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ios 11 beta That’s Chick to you, Sir

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Jenine Stanley
t: July 2, 2017 7:13 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: ios 11 beta > > Simon, Just tried this using iOS11 beta on my 6S and my original Apple Watch > running watchOS 3.2.3 Dev beta 4 and it works. Before I updated the Watch > though and was using a public version of w

RE: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread David & his pack of dogs
Girls and their toys. LOL. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley Sent: July 2, 2017 7:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: ios 11 beta Simon, Just tried this using iOS11 beta on my 6S and my original

Re: ios 11 beta

2017-07-02 Thread Jenine Stanley
Simon, Just tried this using iOS11 beta on my 6S and my original Apple Watch running watchOS 3.2.3 Dev beta 4 and it works. Before I updated the Watch though and was using a public version of watchOS, it also worked. I do so wish they’d make it a complication, yes I use it that much. > On Jul 2,