Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-17 Thread Donna Goodin
gt;>>> gives me hope that my problem might be solvable someday. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That was what really weirded me out. Having it on turn by turn didn’t >>>>>>>>> help. I’m about to install the up

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
ogarty wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > Yeah that’s weird, > > I must admit I’m not impressed by maps on my 7+, > But tha’ts more to do with the constant refreshing of the screen that > seems to be happening when I open the app. > > I don’t use it when I’m home as I know my city with

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-17 Thread Donna Goodin
t;>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 3:45 AM, sandi sørensen >>>>>>

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
om> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. I’m running on an iPhone 7, Simon. Donna Sent from my iPho

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Tuesday, 17 October 2017 11:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. Hi Sandie, It's pretty obvious to everyone that he is lost. :) And we have similar jokes here. Lots of jokes about men getting lost and being unwilling to as

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread sandi sørensen
his is a really stupid question, but, if , for example >>>>>>>> you are in a car, your husband is driving , why, not just have it on >>>>>>>> turn by turn? I realize this does not solve your problem, but might it >>>>>>>> work f

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread Donna Goodin
to >>>>>>>> use maps or get directions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But it’s usefull when travelling and currently checking it out it’s >>>>>>>> constantly refreshing and not letting me make the setting c

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread sandi sørensen
gt;> you are in a car, your husband is driving , why, not just have it on >>>>>>> turn by turn? I realize this does not solve your problem, but might it >>>>>>> work for the time you are traveling? >>>>>>> I have absolutely never ever he

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread Tim Kilburn
it , lots... >>>>>> Sandie >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 01.41, Simon Fogarty >>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>&g

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread sandi sørensen
;>> Sandie >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14 Oct 2017, at 01.41, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>>> >>>>&g

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread Donna Goodin
gt;>>>> I must admit I’m not impressed by maps on my 7+, >>>>>> But tha’ts more to do with the constant refreshing of the screen that >>>>>> seems to be happening when I open the app. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t use it wh

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-16 Thread sandi sørensen
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. >>>>> >>>>> I’m

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-15 Thread Donna Goodin
y without the need to use >>>> maps or get directions. >>>> >>>> But it’s usefull when travelling and currently checking it out it’s >>>> constantly refreshing and not letting me make the setting changes I want >>>> to put in. >>>> &g

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-14 Thread sandi sørensen
t;>> put in. >>> >>> Guess I’ll keep playing for now. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM &g

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-14 Thread Donna Goodin
put in. >> >> Guess I’ll keep playing for now. >> >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegro

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-14 Thread sandi sørensen
make the setting changes I want to > put in. > > Guess I’ll keep playing for now. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM > To: macvisionar

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Saturday, 14 October 2017 10:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. I’m running on an iPhone 7, Simon. Donna Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: What model of phone is it

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
roups.com Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. So, speaking of unhelpful messages. You sound rather smog and pleased with yourself. It is true that I can apparently not roll back to iOS 10. But there is no harm in asking now, is there? Yes. Now I must make a decision about what to d

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
re folks might help with correcting the issues. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sandi sørensen > Sent: Saturday, 14 October 2017 3:15 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless un

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Saturday, 14 October 2017 3:15 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. Have just used Maps on a IOS 11 IPhone, Not one single problem. I wonder what she do wrong? Sent from my iPad On 13 Oct 2017, at 15.57, Scott Berry mailto:sb356

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:19 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. > > Hi Mark, > > It just

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
ubject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. Hi Mark, It just doesn't work. I realize that that is vague, but it's the best way to describe it. The spoken directions are nonexistent. For example, it will speak the name of a road, but that's all. No Turn right, left etc.

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11. Donna, Your equation is unsolvable. In other words, we cannot solve it without the required details. And reporting the same

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread E.T.
Smug no. I have some frustrating issues with High Sierra. It would be counter productive for me to vent though. 'Nuff said. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn you

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
So, speaking of unhelpful messages. You sound rather smog and pleased with yourself. It is true that I can apparently not roll back to iOS 10. But there is no harm in asking now, is there? Yes. Now I must make a decision about what to do given that this app does not work. I have every intention

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread E.T.
Yes it is choice. But now you find yourself back where you started after all. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail:

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, I think that’s a personal decision, and is up to the individual. Maps work very well under iOS 10. It does not work so well, at least for me under iOS 11. So, I decided that rolling back would be a good option for me if it was an option. You might make a different choice, and that’s fine.

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread E.T.
You know, yes, you did ask about rolling back. But you had not first put this out to the group in an effort to resolve the Maps behavior. That, in my opinion, would have been the first step. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, al

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
Oh, thank you! Now there is a healthy response! Blame the user. As for what I “did wrong “I did nothing differently than I used to do in iOS 10, other than switching back-and-forth between overview and turn by turn mode. Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:15 AM, sandi sørensen w

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
ETA, I am reporting the behavior I am seeing. That’s all I can do. If I saw a consistent pattern, I would report it that way. Truly I’d have never seen an Apple app behave so inconsistently. Frankly, if others are seeing what I am seeing, I’m amazed that Apple ever let it be released in this s

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
Scott, As you may recall, my first post was about whether I could roll back to iOS 10. My second post was an answer to Mark’s question about what wasn’t working. And yes I have every intention of reporting. It’s a little difficult though, because the behavior doesn’t seem consistent so it’s har

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Simply because someone is posting to this list, does not preclude the possibility that they have reported it as a bug.In my opinion, it is totally fine for an individual to post questions about such things to the list in case it is just an issue with their own settings, or that their de

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread E.T.
This kind of reaction to problems is positively negative and hampers progress in finding solutions. "I need directions." "Where to?" "I don't know, I just need directions." (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the cha

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread E.T.
Donna, Your equation is unsolvable. In other words, we cannot solve it without the required details. And reporting the same vagueness to Apple will not do a thing to resolve this either. About Android, you know the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. From E.T.'s Ke

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread sandi sørensen
Have just used Maps on a IOS 11 IPhone, Not one single problem. I wonder what she do wrong? Sent from my iPad > On 13 Oct 2017, at 15.57, Scott Berry wrote: > > You guys complain about these things but never report. Report these to: > > http://www.apple.com/feedback > > Or if they are tr

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Scott Berry
You guys complain about these things but never report. Report these to: http://www.apple.com/feedback Or if they are truly accessibility issues you can report them to: accessibil...@apple.com . Complaining on the list isn’t going

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi, Tim, I'm using the new default voice. Donna > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > That's odd. My directions are being spoken just fine. The "Proceed to > Route" problem only happened once for me when we lost cell signal for a few > kilometres. What voice are you

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, That's odd. My directions are being spoken just fine. The "Proceed to Route" problem only happened once for me when we lost cell signal for a few kilometres. What voice are you using? Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 13, 2017, at 06:18, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Mark

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Oriol Gómez
Um maps works perfectly under iOS 11... :) On 10/13/17, Jessica Moss wrote: > What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity? I think it would > be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions > pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Jessica Moss
What are you finding wrong with it just out of curiosity? I think it would be nice if you could stop it from constantly moving whenever the directions pop up, sense it constantly causes the screen to also refresh, which makes multitasking next to impossible. > On Oct 12, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Taylo

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Mark, It just doesn't work. I realize that that is vague, but it's the best way to describe it. The spoken directions are nonexistent. For example, it will speak the name of a road, but that's all. No Turn right, left etc. Switching back and forth between overview and turn by turn doesn

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-13 Thread Donna Goodin
That is unfortunate. Thanks all for your responses. I will report, report, report. And I guess GoogleMaps it is. *sigh* I have to say I'm feeling disillusioned with Apple of late. Mark's post yesterday about Google's AI is making me wonder if I should give Android another try. It just seem

RE: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-12 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Donna, Since Apple sent me a message, acknowledging the bug I posted to this group, a few weeks ago, regarding my issue with the maps app, I have been using it on an iPHone 6 S, daily. I must say, other than the issue I reported, it's been working extremely well. What is it about the ap

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-12 Thread E.T.
Once there is an update to iOS 11, its too late and we now have had 3 updates. Report report report! to Apple. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say G

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-12 Thread Mary Otten
I don't think you can roll back anymore. I saw articles in the Tech press last week about Apple stopping signing iOS 10. That means you can't roll back anymore. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. I have not used Apple Maps in a long time. I have no real use for it, since I have some

Re: Maps is positively useless under iOS 11.

2017-10-12 Thread Taylor Arndt
I’ve had it too and this is why our use Google maps? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > OK, I’ve absolutely had it with Maps under iOS 11. This thing is so broken > and useless that I can’t believe Apple even calls it an app. I thought