My problem with Flash is purely on the accessibility and programming freedom
fronts. As access goes, it is poor on Windows and non-existent elsewhere. On
the programming freedom side, because it is an entirely propriety format, I
cannot write my own accessible Flash player without doing some rea
As a previously sighted person, i really liked developing for flash. ANd each
version having gone through loads of enhancements, i think it would be nice for
adobe to adopt an html5 approach that they will layer for the more design
oriented punters.
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I still think HTML 5 will be better.
On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> Oh, i forgot to mention in the previous thread, on the labels.
>
> The reason why we read button1 everywhere in a lot of flash when using jaws
> is because of the instanciation of a button, which then
I second Chris here,
I think that if flash files aren't refferable on the web, we're pretty much
stuck with trying to get info from it. That's why all metas are in the html/php
which the swf is embedded in. But hey, there always might be something out
there. When my devver finishes his first ip
The point of my test program was to show how even a very simple flash
swf became nearly indecipherable once compiled and I suspect a complex
flash would be even more difficult. Sometimes you just cant take the
sauce back off the spaghetti.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Perhaps you can get control
Perhaps you can get control text using your little test program and, if so, we
can probably extract location and force a mouse click?
You could run the program using gdb in emacs and dump the data in a nice, easy
way to both dissect and save.
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
On the unix side you can dump a file to the terminal with the more
command. So the dump was simply the result of saying more md.swf. I
believe that binary values that map to an ASCII character are simply
output while other hex values are output with <> around the hex value.
The results obtained
Even though they are compiled, has anyone opened such a file with a hex editor
and poked around looking for human readable text? Dumping it as ASCII will
almost always give gibberish because of odd compilation artifacts. But a hex
editor in a debugger will translate text information into ASCII n
The difficulty is that the swf files are compiled binary data so there's
not much there to read. I've heard there are various efforts to make a
swf de-comopiler but I've not found one working yet. For example,
attached (assuming attachments works) is a small 149 byte swf I made to
detect MSAA b
Hi list,
Can't something be done in UNIX? I.e. a Flash to text converter or something? I
know that FF on Linux uses the Graphical User interface, but can Flash be used
on a text-based distribution such as Gentoo? If so, perhaps something can be
done in Darwin on Mac OS.
Just a thought
TC
James
Short of some browser plugin I think the flash container is pretty well
sealed off from inspection in Safari. Maybe something else can be done
in FF but then that doesn't get us anywhere for voiceover support. Too
many gaping holes. Jump over one and land in another.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
> Q: Is MSAA info even accessible on the Mac?
>
A: All information can be found if one knows how and where to look for it.
MSAA data is attached to the controls in one of their object description
fields. Finding the controls will give us the place to find the MSAA
information which, in most c
You can try out the HTML5 interface on youtube in Safari. Buttons are
unlabeled but otherwise accessible unlike the flash player. You'll have
to hit youtube.com/html5 and opt-in first. Then it will use the html5
player for video whenever possible.
The JS Flash player, called Gordon, uses SVG s
Is MSAA info even accessible on the Mac?
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Could it be possible, if we know what we're looking for, to find the MSAA
information in a Flash object? It could give us the names and locations
relative to the Flash window from which we could easily calculate the raw
scree
Could it be possible, if we know what we're looking for, to find the MSAA
information in a Flash object? It could give us the names and locations
relative to the Flash window from which we could easily calculate the raw
screen coordinates and provide a crufty facility for users to click buttons
Well, that sucks.
I've heard talk about a JavaScript Flash to html 5 convertor but I haven't seen
any actual bits. I know Firefox supports html 5 accessibly on Windows and
GNU/Linux but think it probably does us no good on Macintosh. What about
Safari, how well does it deal with html 5 and VO?
I don't know how much access the Flash object gives to external scripts
so you might hit similar roadblocks in Applescript. You can probably get
general infor about the entire flash object (height, width etc) but
being able to trigger internal actionscripts probably requires some glue
code ins
Yep, there's got to be a callback between js and flash, and i don't know which
part of the api is set to open on a per publication basis.
I'm wondering if there isn't a way to access it differently, as in js firs
extracting the labels, and calling applescript's OSAX which is the extended
suite
The tricky bit here is that the Flash swf needs to enable the JS API and
then provide hooks from that API to the actionscripts. That way you
could make a JS call like FlashObject.pause() and internally the JS
pause method would be mapped to call the actionscript used by the pause
button. While
Thanks. I might try your idea this afternoon.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> You can't control flash that way as the whole framework is in carbon. Until
> we get adobe stuff in coco, it won't help much to do anything. unless you
> call out flash buttons from javascri
You can't control flash that way as the whole framework is in carbon. Until we
get adobe stuff in coco, it won't help much to do anything. unless you call out
flash buttons from javascript and get safari to read the labels and buttons
extracted from javascript then plug it back in via the same b
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