Hi list, Can't something be done in UNIX? I.e. a Flash to text converter or something? I know that FF on Linux uses the Graphical User interface, but can Flash be used on a text-based distribution such as Gentoo? If so, perhaps something can be done in Darwin on Mac OS. Just a thought TC James On 26 Jan 2010, at 19:20, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Short of some browser plugin I think the flash container is pretty well > sealed off from inspection in Safari. Maybe something else can be done in FF > but then that doesn't get us anywhere for voiceover support. Too many gaping > holes. Jump over one and land in another. > > CB > > Chris Hofstader wrote: >> >> >>> Q: Is MSAA info even accessible on the Mac? >>> >> A: All information can be found if one knows how and where to look for it. >> MSAA data is attached to the controls in one of their object description >> fields. Finding the controls will give us the place to find the MSAA >> information which, in most cases is as valuable as, "button 1," "button 2," >> etc. but that's all one gets on Windows too and with a little poking around, >> we can find the location information which maybe something we can pull out >> of the browser when it renders the Flash object. >> >> This is all quite hypothetical, I haven't opened up a debugger to try to >> find anything within a Flash object yet (before or after it's rendered) so >> this more of a thought experiment than anything else. >> >> cdh >>> CB >>> >>> Chris Hofstader wrote: >>>> >>>> Could it be possible, if we know what we're looking for, to find the MSAA >>>> information in a Flash object? It could give us the names and locations >>>> relative to the Flash window from which we could easily calculate the raw >>>> screen coordinates and provide a crufty facility for users to click >>>> buttons and such. >>>> >>>> cdh >>>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't know how much access the Flash object gives to external scripts >>>>> so you might hit similar roadblocks in Applescript. You can probably get >>>>> general infor about the entire flash object (height, width etc) but being >>>>> able to trigger internal actionscripts probably requires some glue code >>>>> inside the flash object. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yep, there's got to be a callback between js and flash, and i don't know >>>>>> which part of the api is set to open on a per publication basis. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if there isn't a way to access it differently, as in js >>>>>> firs extracting the labels, and calling applescript's OSAX which is the >>>>>> extended suite of commands, which then move the mouse cursor to the >>>>>> label called by js, then the user clicks. It's a bit GUI scripting, but >>>>>> that method might work since the mouse cursor can access flash buttons >>>>>> without the use of voice over, which in this method is just an external >>>>>> call inherent to the system. >>>>>> >>>>>> I might get my devver to check this out when he's got time. I myself >>>>>> don't have time right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
