Re: Mastering the Mac iBook (was: iWork accessibility on the Mac.)

2015-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
Please disregard my last message. I must have had a typo that I didn't notice, because a search for the author's name brought up the book straight away. My apologies for the wasted message. > On Jun 2, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Anne, > I've heard you recommend this book a lot, and

RE: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Erik Burggraaf
n all screen readers as far as I know. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mastering the mac hi, why don't you try group browsi

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Anna and Alex, That makes perfect sense. You know, I've selected text before, but it never dawned on me that the VO keys would have no impact that selecting text. Thanks for the clarification. Have a good day. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Les, VO-Shift-Home is Go to first item and VO-Home is Go to first visible item. If your page is small and all visible on the screen, the effect will be the same for them both. As for using the Shift key, remember that it doesn't select anything when the VO keys are also being used. You

RE: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Kliphton
Auto forms mode can be turned off in all screen readers as far as I know. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mastering the mac hi

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Alex Hall
No, shift only selects when used with OSX commands in a webpage. VO hijacks the rpocess in html content areas to let you select text, but again only with standard commands. As the command for top of edit field is cmd-up, vo-shift-home will select nothing. After all, vo-shift-left/right move by

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Alex, If you use the shift key, wouldn't that select text with the commands you referenced? I tried VO-Shift Home and VO-Home, and I couldn't tell a difference in where I landed on the web page I tested. Les On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Just to be clear, vo-shift-home (

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread erik burggraaf
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Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-29 Thread Alex Hall
Just to be clear, vo-shift-home (vo-shift-fn-left on mac keyboards with no home/end) takes you to the top of whatever vo is interacting with. If you interact with a text field in a form, it will take you to the top of the form. If you have only interacted with the html content, it will take you

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi, In your message you mention you use windows for torrent. It works fine for me on the Mac. I use u torrent Vest, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Kliphton wrote: >> Okay, I bought my first mac june 2011, it was actually a fathers day >> present. I went cold tur

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi, Just want to address 2 issues that have a solution ooh might have missed. To go to top of page I find vo shift home works well. Second, after finishing editing a form in many it not most cases ooh don't need to find the go or the submit button. Just pressing enter will do it. Vest, Ioan

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Clifton I agree with you about Safari and that it is the most difficult thing to master. I've had my mac for less time than you but I just don't get a sense of the web page like I do in windows. Getting to the top of a page can be difficult sometimes, and even scrolling with the track pad doe

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ssage - From: Alex Hall To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: mastering the mac I'm curious: why do you think windows is clunky compared to the mac? I'm not trying to start anything, I just want to understand and see

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Alex Hall
om/christopher.gilland > > Skype: > twinklesfriend2007 > > Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: > 704-697-2069 > > Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): > 980-272-8570 > > > - Original Message - > From: Alex Hall > To: macvisionaries

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
lex Hall To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:41 PM Subject: Re: mastering the mac It's not you, I think the web browsing experience is smoother on windows because screen readers use a flat representation, so they can do things like read text like a docum

Re: mastering the mac

2012-10-28 Thread Alex Hall
It's not you, I think the web browsing experience is smoother on windows because screen readers use a flat representation, so they can do things like read text like a document, not stop at links in text, and so on. I prefer web browsing on windows, just not enough to sacrifice everything else th