Hi!
Thanks for clarifying.
My english isn't that good so its hard to explain whats good and whats not good.
I also mostly boot or start linux or windows to read long texts.
/A
On 03 Jul 2014, at 12:17, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Even compared to iOS, Mac braille support is very
Hi Robert,
Even compared to iOS, Mac braille support is very rudimentary. Off the top of
my head:
No support for direct input, only predefined function keys.
Poor computer braille table support outside North America.
Buggy, sometimes unusable grade 2 translation, where punctuation is adjacent to
isionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
Pause / resume speech with Space 1-2-3-4.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/30/2014 12:53 AM, A
Wait, this is the one I meant to share. Toggle speech on / off with
Space 1-3-4.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Friends welcome anytime,
relatives by appointment only.
sign on house door
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/30/2014 12:53 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Pause / resume speech with Space 1-2-3-4.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/30/2014 12:53 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Sometimes speech can be annoying and there'
You can mute speech on the mac with at least the trackpad. Same gesture
as on the iPhone three finger double tap. You can also mute speech via a
check box in VoiceOver Utility under the voices category. You could also
set up a keyboard commander to mute speech on the fly.
Christopher Hallswort
Hi!
Sometimes speech can be annoying and there's no way of muting speech on a mac
from what i know.
On the iphone evrything is fine but not on the mac.
But i guess that as long as you only read mails and such braille is pritty ok.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 21:06 skrev Robert C :
> Anders,
> Can you ex
Anders,
Can you explain more? You do not want speech on when using braille?
I have not used my braille display that much yet with the Mac or iPhone
but when I do, speech is on but if I don't want to hear it I can just
mute it. I have not used it yet with Windows but will run NVDA when I do.
Hi!
Swedish letters are verry strange sometimes.
Also the movement of the braille could be much more easy.
Now i am a power user of windows of course and also very used to linux and
their environment and when moving around the braille display on a window
doesn't afect the speech.
However when mo
All the settings relating to braille is under the Voiceover settings.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
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On 6/29/2014 9:17 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Which is the new setting in iOS 7 and app
Which is the new setting in iOS 7 and appears to fix the translation
issue. Glad it does for you.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 29/06/2014 15:30, Robert C wrote:
Turning off automatic braille translation in the iPhone settings
fixes tha
Turning off automatic braille translation in the iPhone settings
fixes that.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
Don't use a lot where a little will do.
Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
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On 6/29/2014 12:11 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
I know on iOS that translation
Just turn off automatic braille translation. That way, it'll only translate
when you press the space bar.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Robert C wrote:
> Sabahattin,
> I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel that
> braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard.
I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade
II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in
iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're
a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow
one then y
Sabahattin,
I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them
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Gucukoglu
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Hi Eileen,
To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can see,
it doesn't even quite work as designed
> Best,
> Eileen
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
>
> All commands are
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All commands are in VO Utility > braille > Assign Commands. There, as the
name suggests, you can change any commands you don'
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:08 PM
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Have you tried a reset of both devices? Kd that does not help, a clean
install of osx may be needed.
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> On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:01 PM, "Eileen Mi
time to devote to
it. Thanks.
Eileen
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ukoglu
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Hi Eileen,
To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can see, it
doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields. I'd encourage yo
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> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions
>
> Hi Eileen,
>
> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can see, it
> doe
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:28 PM
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Hi Eileen,
To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can see,
ileen
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
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&
>
> Thanks to all that have responded.
>
> Eileen
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups
nded.
Eileen
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Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>
Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> Also, I have reviewed some of the braille keystrokes recently,
> but I was having difficulty panning to the next line. If someone can point
> me in the right direction that would be fantastic.
I just started exploring this today. My display doesn't have a braille
keyboard
Hi Eileen,
To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can see, it doesn't
even quite work as designed in some text fields. I'd encourage you to open the
same document in TextEdit, for comparison. Don't get your hopes up for
anything like the quality of support from the Window
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