Hi!
Sometimes speech can be annoying and there's no way of muting speech on a mac 
from what i know.
On the iphone evrything is fine but not on the mac.
But i guess that as long as you only read mails and such braille is pritty ok.
/A
29 jun 2014 kl. 21:06 skrev Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com>:

> Anders,
>   Can you explain more? You do not want speech on when using braille? I have 
> not used my braille display that much yet with the Mac or iPhone but when I 
> do, speech is on but if I don't want to hear it I can just mute it. I have 
> not used it yet with Windows but will run NVDA when I do.
> 
>   But back to what the question I asked was, in what way is Apple's braikke 
> support lacking? Knowing that, I can be ready for any issues I may run into. 
> In my limited tests, braille output seems ok.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> Why is there an expiration date on sour cream?
> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
> E-mail-
> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
> 
> On 6/29/2014 11:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Swedish letters are verry strange sometimes.
>> Also the movement of the braille could be much more easy.
>> Now i am a power user of windows of course and also very used to linux and 
>> their environment and  when moving around the braille display on a window 
>> doesn't afect the speech.
>> However when moving the display over the window on the mac i still hear 
>> speech comming through.
>> So the speech and braille follows each other which really annoys me.
>> I want it to be as in window eyes or in orca or brltty for linux.
>> /A
>> 29 jun 2014 kl. 09:11 skrev Christopher Hallsworth 
>> <christopher...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade II 
>>> Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in iOS 7. 
>>> What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're a quick 
>>> typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow one then you 
>>> may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after entering the k and 
>>> the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone can correct me on 
>>> this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X yet. I'm not aware 
>>> of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote:
>>>> Sabahattin,
>>>>    I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you feel
>>>> that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. When I begin
>>>> to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille display most of the
>>>> time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>>> Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in
>>>> charge of everything outdoors?
>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>>>> E-mail-
>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>> Hi Eileen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard.  As you can see,
>>>>> it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields.  I'd
>>>>> encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison.
>>>>> Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support from
>>>>> the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure out
>>>>> what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility.
>>>>> I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical
>>>>> navigation to be the inner ones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck and
>>>>> I'll try and recreate your issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sabahattin
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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