Hello, I believe I asked a question about panning with my BrailleNote and my Mac Air a while back, but it has led to other things. I have reviewed the voiceover commands for braille, have looked at all the keystrokes for the BrailleNote and voiceover,, but I haven't been able to figure this out. I was in a basic TextEdit and iTextExpress document and I couldn't use any of my thumb keys to pan to the next line. Again, I ask are there any tricks to the trade with This? Right now, I am only using the BrailleNote with my iPhone4, with iOS 7.0.6. I am able to navigate more effectively on that device than on my Mac Air. Any suggestions would be terrific to use it with my Mac.
Best, Eileen -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert C Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 8:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using BrailleNoe With Mac AirQuestions Pause / resume speech with Space 1-2-3-4. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 6/30/2014 12:53 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > Hi! > Sometimes speech can be annoying and there's no way of muting speech on a mac from what i know. > On the iphone evrything is fine but not on the mac. > But i guess that as long as you only read mails and such braille is pritty ok. > /A > 29 jun 2014 kl. 21:06 skrev Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com>: > >> Anders, >> Can you explain more? You do not want speech on when using braille? I have not used my braille display that much yet with the Mac or iPhone but when I do, speech is on but if I don't want to hear it I can just mute it. I have not used it yet with Windows but will run NVDA when I do. >> >> But back to what the question I asked was, in what way is Apple's braikke support lacking? Knowing that, I can be ready for any issues I may run into. In my limited tests, braille output seems ok. >> >> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >> Why is there an expiration date on sour cream? >> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >> E-mail- >> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >> >> On 6/29/2014 11:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> Hi! >>> Swedish letters are verry strange sometimes. >>> Also the movement of the braille could be much more easy. >>> Now i am a power user of windows of course and also very used to linux and their environment and when moving around the braille display on a window doesn't afect the speech. >>> However when moving the display over the window on the mac i still hear speech comming through. >>> So the speech and braille follows each other which really annoys me. >>> I want it to be as in window eyes or in orca or brltty for linux. >>> /A >>> 29 jun 2014 kl. 09:11 skrev Christopher Hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> I know on iOS that translation from computer Braille to literary grade II Braille is best described as querky. This however has been fixed in iOS 7. What happened is you start typing a word such as black. If you're a quick typist then you won't see this problem. But if you are a slow one then you may end up with the letters b l a c just fine but after entering the k and the space the k would translate to knowledge. Someone can correct me on this though because I don't use Braille on iOS or OS X yet. I'm not aware of any issues pertaining to Braille under OS X. >>>> >>>> Christopher Hallsworth >>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu >>>> >>>> On 29/06/2014 02:29, Robert C wrote: >>>>> Sabahattin, >>>>> I wanted to come back to this and ask you, in what ways you >>>>> feel that braille support in OS X (and iOS too?) is substandard. >>>>> When I begin to use my Mac full time, I will connect my braille >>>>> display most of the time. Therefore I want to be aware of these issues and work around them. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>>> Why do they call it the Department of Interior when they are in >>>>> charge of everything outdoors? >>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>>>> E-mail- >>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> On 6/23/2014 10:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>> Hi Eileen, >>>>>> >>>>>> To be honest, braille on OS X is a bit substandard. As you can >>>>>> see, it doesn't even quite work as designed in some text fields. >>>>>> I'd encourage you to open the same document in TextEdit, for comparison. >>>>>> Don't get your hopes up for anything like the quality of support >>>>>> from the Windows screen readers, I'm afraid. >>>>>> >>>>>> With regard to BrailleNote in particular, the best way to figure >>>>>> out what all the keys do is to examine the mappings in VoiceOver Utility. >>>>>> I changed the panning buttons to be the outer keys, and vertical >>>>>> navigation to be the inner ones. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you figure this out, but feel free to ask if you get stuck >>>>>> and I'll try and recreate your issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Sabahattin >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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