Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-12 Thread Donna Goodin
Unfortunately, this student in't in an audio-related field. if she were, the justification would be a lot easier. Still plugging away at it, though. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: I am a full time mac user myself and often do audio and video wo

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-12 Thread Eric Oyen
I am a full time mac user myself and often do audio and video work (some of what I have done is on youtube at www.youtubemcom/visionlessone). the applications I use: 1. iMovie (voiceover friendly) 2. garage band (voiceover friendly) 3. mars edit (voiceover friendly blogging client) 4. menu tab pr

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-12 Thread Eric Oyen
considering my training and background, foisting machines off on the taxpayer and then rationing them out to VR clients only after a big go around smacks of misappropriation of public funds and malfeasance. Thats a strong accusation I know, but its more often the truth than not. -eric On Apr

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-11 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks, Des. Great points. Best, Donna On Apr 11, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Des Delgadillo wrote: > Hi: > An argument I presented in my proposal to California Rehab was the > added accessibility for Mac as compared to a machine running Windows > and Jaws. I'm a broadcast journalism major, so a Mac just

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-11 Thread Des Delgadillo
Hi: An argument I presented in my proposal to California Rehab was the added accessibility for Mac as compared to a machine running Windows and Jaws. I'm a broadcast journalism major, so a Mac just made sense in my case, because I'd need to do a lot of audio editing and occasional video and photo w

RE: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-11 Thread David Tanner
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac Hi all, I haven't had time to respond to everyone's individual messages on this

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-11 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, I haven't had time to respond to everyone's individual messages on this topic, but I want to thank all who have posted. You all have raised some great points, and given me a lot to proceed with. Thanks for taking the time to pass along your thoughts and experiences. Best, Donna On Apr

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Kerri
I highly doubt this is justifiable, Brandt and we have frivolous law suits in Canada as well. On 2013-04-10, at 4:59 AM, Brandt wrote: > Not to be rude, or base anything on the stereo typical American, but outside > of your Borders you are well known for suing for almost anything. I don't see

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Berry
Absolutely. I agree we do have a terrible history of suits here. On 4/10/13 5:59, Brandt wrote: Not to be rude, or base anything on the stereo typical American, but outside of your Borders you are well known for suing for almost anything. I don't see why this kind of suit won't be successfu

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Berry
Ah actually it might be. The reason I say that is because it's a waste of public funds and those people who pay taxes. On 4/10/13 5:53, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Eric, Well, to be fair, I don't think it's been in the warehouse for five years, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been in there for

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Richard Ring
I have read the responses to this inquiry with great interest. I would like to add a few thoughts. First, how well does this student know the Mac? The rehab agency for which I once worked would want to know this. The reason? It is fairly likely that the rehab agency in question doesn't have quali

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Eric Oyen
admittedly a lot of suits are ridiculous on their face, but some are quite serious. we have the unfortunate circumstance to be in a time where the people are interested only in themselves and try to vote for more "bread and circuses". This is the time when any state/empire starts failing. Unfor

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Donna Goodin
And actually, that's one of the things I hate about our culture, so really don't want to perpetuate any more "ridiculous law suits" than we already have. :) Donna On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Brandt wrote: > Not to be rude, or base anything on the stereo typical American, but outside > of you

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Brandt
Not to be rude, or base anything on the stereo typical American, but outside of your Borders you are well known for suing for almost anything. I don't see why this kind of suit won't be successful. I will not go into the history of ridiculous American lawsuits, but believe me, they are there an

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Eric, Well, to be fair, I don't think it's been in the warehouse for five years, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been in there for one or two. And the fact that you have a stockpile of something just isn't the factor that should be the basis for selecting a person's technology. So yeah

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Eric Oyen
having items in a wherehouse for 5 years?> thats a waste of public funds, not to mention a potential pollution hazard. I don't think there would be much aftermarket support for such machines. In fact, the entities that stockpiled all this equipment and never disbursed it to the clients should be

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Donna Goodin
I agree, but they don't care. Donna On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Mark Baxter wrote: > The counter argument to this is that those PCs are out of date, and the > copies of Jaws come with out of date SMA's which may cost to upgrade. > Stockpiling does not sound like much more than a cop-out. > >

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Mark Baxter
The counter argument to this is that those PCs are out of date, and the copies of Jaws come with out of date SMA's which may cost to upgrade. Stockpiling does not sound like much more than a cop-out. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1..

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Thank you, Gigi. I'm not sure much of this will carry much weight, for the reasons I just explained. but I'll try and get them to talk to Texas. Someday these idiots just have to move into the 21st-century. Best, Donna On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi there > Although th

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Erik, Thanks for this. Unfortunately I live in the rural backwater that is southern Illinois. Our VR people are at least 10 years behind. What they've told my student is that they already have PCs and copies of JAWS stock-piled in a warehouse, so even if the mac cost $5 it would be more e

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there Although the cost may be a good justification to rehab, I think the second option of the employer wanting training and use of Apple products is an even better argument in this case. You might want to also get the employer on this as well, if it's possible. What they say means a lot. Al

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Eric Oyen
I haven't done so myself, but it is possible. The 2 justifications that can be used are: 1. lower cost of ownership (as accessibility is included) 2. Greater included feature set for the cost involved (built in camera, bluetooth, wi-fi, firewire, USB 2.x or greater, full apple repair support, mi

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Scott Berry
Hi Donna, Of course as you know justification is a big thing for rehab. Is this for personal or work purposes? Actually if you can give me a call I can work with you on this I have helped other people convince DVR to do these types of things. Please send me a private message and I'll share

Re: Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Mark Baxter
In my case, I tailored my entire IWRP around becoming an accessible technology trainer and, once I proved my aptitude in a few "test cases," both California and Oregon's Rehab departments have so far played ball; Oregon just recently purchased this here Iphone 5 that I"m in love with, and in 200

Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac

2013-04-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Hello all, I am trying to advocate for student who is having difficulty getting rehab services to purchase a Mac for her. I would be interested in hearing from those of you who have gotten rehab to purchase a Mac. How did you go about convincing them to do that? Best, Donna Sent from my iPhone