Dear All,
Many of you may already be aware of the sad news of Steve Jobs passing, for
those of you who are not, sadly, Steve has lost his ongoing battle against
cancer.
May I personally say that whilst the work involving Voice Over may not per-say
have been under his direct control and influen
I figured I should write something.
http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/05/the-death-of-steve-jobs/
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I regret that I didn't write him a letter about how much his work has changed
my life. Thanks, Steve. R.I.P.
Teresa
On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
> How sad, although unfortunately given his recent resignation from Apple, not
> entirely unexpected. I wonder if there will be a
Hi,
Its been this way for me for about a year now with click to flash installed.
Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> Say,
>
> Anybody here noticed what appears to be a major recoding in the way
Sure,
Here goes the links.
Part 1.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-1.m4a
Part 2.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-2.mp3
Part 3.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Garageband-3.mp3
And the bonus episode.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/gb6-3.5-Bonus-.mp3
I hope you find them us
Ricardo,
Any chance of downloading the Garage Band tutorials from some where, before the
Mobile Access site is up & running again? I'd really appreciate it, if it is
possible. I was hoping to get started with my learning curve, now that I have
Lion installed.
Thanks,
CJ
On Aug 31, 2011, at
Say,
Anybody here noticed what appears to be a major recoding in the way audible.com
samples are handled? Now, it looks like that when you go to:
www.audible.com
and find a sample, the link is coded so that Voice Over can see and use it. IF
you have click to Flash installed, you will need to
If it's 2 bucks I'm gonna pay and be happy to have the service. It's so useful
that apple should just buy it and build it into the OS.
Erik Burggraaf
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Hello Greg:
The iPhone 5 has the features of Siri integrated into the operating system,
whereas the App available for the iPhone 4 requires one to be in the
application. For example, if I were to somehow obtain an iPhone 5 by selling
all my worldly possessions, I could hold down the home button
How sad, although unfortunately given his recent resignation from Apple, not
entirely unexpected. I wonder if there will be any kind of broadcast
memorial service.
Allison
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I frequently experience this bug as well on my mid-2010 MacBook Pro. Sometimes
it will never be "free" (as opposed to "busy") and I will be forced to just
turn off the computer (as it can grow quite warm if I leave it on at this
point). Any other takers? Solutions?
Robert Hooper
ho
Rest in piece Steve!
On 6 Oct 2011, at 00:51, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> All,
> It is with deep sadness that I share that Steve Jobs has died at the age of
> 56.
> May his talent and legacy live on in the tools we use to rock the world in
> our own way.
> Karen
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Those of us who work to provide content for Mac-cessibility are
I thought that this was a really bad joke 'till I tuned to CNN
The man and his little machines changed our world, the Mac world will miss him.
Aloha,
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On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:30 PM,
All,
It is with deep sadness that I share that Steve Jobs has died at the age
of 56.
May his talent and legasy live on in the tools we use to rock the world
in our own way.
Karen
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Oh goodness, I didn't realize they had pulled the app. I apologize for the
misinformation in my previous post.
Allison
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Yes, you can still get the app on the 3GS or 4, but from what I gather, it
doesn't do as many things as the built-in voice assistant on the 4S.
Allison
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in order to see the results of your markup, you'll have to open the HTML in
Safari. As you edit your text file, save it also as an HTML file and open that
in Safari. You could simply save these over the previous one so youjust have
two files with the same name, one with a txt and one with an hTM
You might want to use it with Bluetooth only. There is a bug that doesn't allow
it to utilize the USB properly. I can get the USB to work, but only after the
display has been idle for about fifteen minutes. Also, in USB mode, the whiz
wheels do not function.
HTH,
Teresa
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:47
Nope. Apple bought the company then everything fell silent until
yesterday. All links and such that used to point to the app or the
company now redirect to Apple's Siri pages. That's why my URL had to use
google's webcache to pull up the original page before it got redirected.
So I was just say
OK, I'm confused now -- does this mean that those with iPhone 3GS's and 4's can
still get the sIRI app?
Christine
On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone 3GS or
> better:
>
> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se
In Chrome preferences, there are three different settings that one can
select from that affect what happens when you open Chrome:
* default: open start page
* open home page
* open tabs/windows from previous session (this option is what I have selected)
For various feedback, such as suggestions, b
Hi Ioana,
There are Finder shortcuts that you can use to go to specific folders, and
these work in the dialog windows as well. One useful shortcut that I posted
about yesterday is Command-Shift-G, which stands for "Go to Folder". This can
be used to specify a path to a folder on any mounted d
It's only going to be available on the iPhone 4S due to the hardware
requirements needed to run it.
Allison
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>From what I understand Siri is doing all processing on the phone, hense the
>reason for only running on the 4s only. It needs the A5 processor.
Doug
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On 2011-10-05, at 6:01 PM, "Maxwell Ivey Jr." wrote:
> main reason why i'm not already signed up to buy one too much tha
HI all,
Here is how to view html code in textedit:
1. open htm file
2 go to textedit preferences
3. go to open and save tab
4. check the disregard Rich text format checkbox.
5. close and Reopen the file.
Voila,
Ioana
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main reason why i'm not already signed up to buy one too much that no
one knows for sure. please correct any misunderstandings for me.
thank you, max
On Oct 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
I thought the Siri app already existed for iPhone. How is this
different?
On Oct 5, 2011
The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone
3GS or better:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LwmUTA-pMRwJ:itunes.apple.com/us/app/siri-assistant/id351778157%3Fmt%3D8+siri+personal+assistant+app&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
They were also go
I thought the Siri app already existed for iPhone. How is this different?
On Oct 5, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital
> assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41
Apparently the kids watching Sprout TV on her phone while away from a
wifi network was the cause of overages in our case. Still, 200MB is
pretty tiny by today's media standards. Of course that used to suffice
quite well running the $15/month data plan. For $25/month we could have
gone for the 2
the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital
assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm
Matt
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On 2011
Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro
On 2011-10-05, at 1:38 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet access; so
> the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of data plan
my brother has tried to ease my worries about the data usage by
reminding me that the iphone is very good at switching from your
cellular network to wifi when one is available. I'm still concerned.
take care, max
On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Interesting. So it's like th
yes, I find it rather frustrating that Apple Accessibility appears to have been
rather quiet about this, despite me asking them a few times over... still,
perhaps they only have recently found out what is causing the issue.
the actual fault presumably lies with the web-site developers, as Apple
When you plug it in it should automatically show something on the
display. Mine said Battery Charging. To get it to show you what's
appearing on your computer though, press one of the cursor routing
buttons. The two rows above your display. This works fine for me.
On 05/10/2011, Becky Knaub wrote
hey all a friend and i notest that authentication is quite offen bizzy
at the lion log in screen when the mac starts also at the log in
screen on start up when you turn voice over on off then back on agane
it doesn't speek does any one know how to solv these problems? and are
they officially recogn
This could explain some busy behavior I've experienced with web-based
chat apps since the browser has to poll the server repeatedly to get
incoming events.
CB
On 10/5/11 1:35 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
I did try that, but interestingly have had a reply from Apple Accessibility
abou
I wouldn't really worry a lot about an unlimited data plan. Even the
capped plans at 2GB a month, you'd be hard pressed to use 2GB of 3G
data in a month.
Some of the time you'll be using WiFi in most circumstances so the
WiFi use does not count against your data cap.
If you had say a 2GB or a 4G
Interesting. So it's like the Dragon iOS approach where they encode an
audio snippet, send it off and the real work is done on some cloud
processor? So what was all the claims about using the new A5 chip and
being 4S only because of compute requirements? Maybe it's just compute
intensive to qui
well, i could be wrong, but that's what it sounded like when i read
it. please correct me if I'm wrong. thanks, max
On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Traci wrote:
Woah, I didn't realize this. You mean Siri even for sending a
message depends on the web? Interesting.
Traci
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Woah, I didn't realize this. You mean Siri even for sending a message depends
on the web? Interesting.
Traci
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On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> When I saw the commercials for that $79 unlimited data plan, I thought yo had
> to buy four pho
So I just had somebody ping me about upgrading to Lion and how they
would need to update Growl but now it was $2 instead of free. This got
me wondering. For many chat apps, or at least the ones I use often like
Skype, AIM and Adium, Growl is the common way to get incoming messages
read. If it's
Hi all,
I cannot for the world figure out how to save a document in a subfolder of
documents. I see the save where menu and press it and find options like idisk
or pictures or etc but don't know how to go in subfolders.
Thanks for our clarifications.
Ioana
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Thanks for your answer. Could you outline the steps to take? I downloaded the
html file. I opened it in textedit. Then I went to format and selected plane
text. I saved and got a .txt file but still could not see the code.
w
On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Hi, Ioana,
>
Cody,
watch this, I'm having a similar issue, its Safari v5.1 not Lion per say, I'm
in the middle of talking with Apple to see if I can go back to Safari's
previous version, and not be plagued to death about updating it...
and to avoid software update constantly trying to re-install v5.1
so w
I talked to them on the phone and they said it is impossible to not mark them
as read but they put in the feature request.
In classic layout with preview turned off it works like a charm and the
messages stay unread until you open them.
Best,
Ioana
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Paul Erkens wrote
When I saw the commercials for that $79 unlimited data plan, I thought yo had
to buy four phones, or at least more than one, in order to qualify for that.
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if sprint offers unlimited, jump on it, and you'll be grandfathered in later
once they stop it...
On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet access; so
> the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of data plan
Ok guys,
I've been using Safari on my mac pro with lion 10.7.1. Browsing is quite
irritating, I use the arrow keys for the web rooter to navigate via links and
headings and so forth.. I constantly get Safari busy busy busy etc. sometimes
I'll see the html content but when I try to interact with
yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet
access; so the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of
data plans. I'm with sprint. currently, the offer a completely
unlimited plan, but the roomer sites are all saying its just a matter
of time before they do
I did try that, but interestingly have had a reply from Apple Accessibility
about this, and would urge anyone else experiencing this issue to write and ask
about this too, as they need to know its quite a significant thing if they
don't hurry along and find a resolution.
Accessibility told me..
Hi all,
Do Focus 40 Blue braille displays work with the MAC?
If they do as I think they do Could anyone tell me how to make My MBP detect
the display when its plugged in the USB port? It won't detect the display
either way ad I have tried everything I can think of.
Since I really need the display
Neil,
I would turn voiceover off and on to see if it helps, because it does,
sometimes.
On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please forgive me if this has been picked up on previously...
>
> I had originally thought this was the fault of one web developer w
I haven't found a way around this either. When I come across a conversation and
I go over the headers, everything is marked as read. My preview pane is 0
lines, off. Has anyone written apple accessibility about this? I thought it was
something I didn't understand about apple mail, but I'll write
Yeah also, the last example shows a blind woman, the one who receives a spoken
text. Pretty cool! I wrote an article about it:
http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/04/what-todays-apple-event-means-to-the-blind/
- Austin
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Traci wrote:
> Holy wow! That was cool! I'm r
Well everyone, I am so glad that my rant has actually managed to prove
productive. So many great tips, thank you.
To make a short cut to a folder on your desktop: find the file and
press Command L to make an Alius. Then copy the Alius and paste it to
your desktop. YOu can then delete the Alius in t
I am using classic view indeed. Really dislike it downloading and marking
messages as read as I scroll through them.
Best,
Ioana
On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
> Hi Ioana,
>
> I'm using Apple mail on Lion in the new look, classic view off. I tried the
> suggestion, but when on
Holy wow! That was cool! I'm really looking forward to this.
Thanks for sharing,
Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail
On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of several
> use cases of people interacting with their phones p
Hi All,
Please forgive me if this has been picked up on previously...
I had originally thought this was the fault of one web developer who had
adjusted something which had broke accessibility, but am now not so sure...
Using my iMac, which I've kept on SL for the time being, I have now found a
So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of
several use cases of people interacting with their phones purly through
speech.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html
CB
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Hi.
You can do the following which might work:
Use the latest version of webkit.
1: Find the text you wanna copy
2: press Vo command f5
3: press Vo command shift space to hold down the mouse button
4: Hold down shift and press the down arrow to select the text you want.
6: Press command c to copy
Hi.
According to the keyboard help, VO shift A only slects it. However, I've never
tried it before.
On 2011-10-05, at 8:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of text
> last spoken, not just the phrase.
>
> On 10/5/11, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>
Hi Esther,
Thank you for your helpful post about my query with Itunes. I really appreciate
all your help and instructions. It worked like a charm. Have a great day.
Allison
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As another new user to the Mac I can certainly understand your frustration. The
Safari busy busy thing is seriously annoying. Stronger words would, of course,
be called for if we weren't in polite company :)
As for Finder, at first I called it Loser as I couldn't use it to find a thi
Hi Mark,
You can fix this problem by clicking the zoom button.
Robert Carter
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I press command 3 on a tweet that is part of a conversation, it takes me
> to the conversation view. The problem I have is that, when arrowing up and
> do
Hi Ioana,
I'm using Apple mail on Lion in the new look, classic view off. I tried the
suggestion, but when on the message table, without any interacting, it won't
work. Each key press of the search text sends a bang from the speakers. Could
it be that you are reading mail in classic view?
Reg
What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of text
last spoken, not just the phrase.
On 10/5/11, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> Hey Matt.
> One thing that you might want to try is this.
> First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy
> Then, press VO shift C to copy the last
Hey, that worked. Thanks for that. Kind of sucks that you can't just do select
all and copy. Ah well.
Matt
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On 2011-10-05, at 8:49 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> Hey Matt.
> One thing that you might want to try is this.
> First, get VO to where the text is you want to cop
Hey Matt.
One thing that you might want to try is this.
First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy
Then, press VO shift C to copy the last phrase to the clipboard.
Finally, go to text edit or where ever and paste
Just keep doing that over and over until you have all that you want. It's kin
Once you interact, press vo-enter before selecting, then use normal
navigation (not holding down shift) to move to the end and hit
vo-enter again.
On 10/5/11, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> Yep, interacted with the text, it said selecting, then I selected what I
> wanted to, and hit VO enter and hit com
Hi Kevin
Thanks for the instructions for deleting the extension prior to reinstalling
from the web store. It worked perfectly. Do I understand correctly that one
benefit of changing to the web store version is that the extension will auto
update in the same way that Chrome does?
Garth
On 0
Yep, interacted with the text, it said selecting, then I selected what I wanted
to, and hit VO enter and hit command c and it dinged at me.
Matt
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On 2011-10-05, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> Did you interact with the text? I also got no speech and nothing
> selected, but
Did you interact with the text? I also got no speech and nothing
selected, but it was because I hadn't interacted with what I wanted to
copy.
On 10/5/11, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting
> things. Then I hit command C and it didn't w
Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting
things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why though.
Thanks for the response.
Matt
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On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> The way I've found to do it is:
> 1. Interact with
I think lyon can amend this behaviour by going to the Voiceover Utility
settings navigating down to web and then pressing tab to get to
tab settings. Vo right until you ghet to page loading and then uncheck the
section which gets Voiceover to automatically read web pages.On 5 Oct 2011,
at
Hi Austin and Christer,
Option clicking and control clicking something, can indeed be done using the
trackpad, and it isn't a problem for voiceover users, although it is, with some
other screen readers.
1. With the vo cursor, find the element that you want to option or control
click on.
2. Now,
The way I've found to do it is:
1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired selection.
2. Hit vo-enter.
3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the selection.
4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy.
There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could f
Hi: To do it more easily, press vo plus J. The first time you do it you jump to
sidebar tab, the second you will jump to html content. Just interact with it
and press vo plus end to go to the last line. To return to the editing area,
just press vo plus J again. Regards.
Vítor Oliveira
Hey all.
I have important information on a facebook message and I need to select
everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming possible and
I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with this please let me
know. Thanks.
Matt
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On Oct 5, 7:31 am, Michael Dailey wrote:
> I went to the discussion page, and it said I could not post because I was not
> a member.
>
> I am getting email updates daily, I filled out the application. Am I suppose
> to log in somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
Thanks for the cmd-shift-g command, that will really make a difference!
On 10/5/11, Paul Hunt wrote:
> Hello everyone. Thanks for sharing this with us Esther. I have a folder I
> access every day. How can I turn this command into a shortcut or place it on
> the doc?
>
> Thanks so much.
> On Oct 5
Michael Dailey,
Yes you seem to be a member. Your message got through to this list.
Paul.
On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Michael Dailey wrote:
> I went to the discussion page, and it said I could not post because I was not
> a member.
>
> I am getting email updates daily, I filled out the applicati
I went to the discussion page, and it said I could not post because I was not a
member.
I am getting email updates daily, I filled out the application. Am I suppose
to log in somewhere?
Thanks,
Mike Dailey
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I am using Lion on an iMac.
How do I get Voice Over not to start reading everything on a page, and just
move along when I TAB?
The VO curser starts jumping all over the screen, and I can't figure out how to
get it back to where I want it.
Thanks,
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Good morning Gerry and all:
I am certain that you will receive faster and possibly better ways to do this
one. However, an effective way to do this is to navigate to the table to the
left of the contacts list. If you interact with the table and arrow down you
will hear something that says recen
Hi everyone!
When i'm in a voice chatt in Skype, and someone sends me a n instant message in
Skype, how do i navigate to the chat window
Gerry Cook
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Hi,
As i said before, Chromevox has promise but their navigation key strokes need
to be improved. Especially the table navigation key strokes are clumcy and time
consuming when you only have control key on one side of the keyboard and no way
of using an insert key cause there is none on the blue
That is the problem with all screen readers regardless of system, unless
something has happened in later years that i'm not aware of, that there's no
way of shift-, alt-, option- or control-clicking things. Apple might have
solved the problem of dragging with modifiers down in the new Lion drag
Hello everyone. Thanks for sharing this with us Esther. I have a folder I
access every day. How can I turn this command into a shortcut or place it on
the doc?
Thanks so much.
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hello Alex,
>
> To answer your question, yes, you can simply type a path
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