Hi Ioana,

There are Finder shortcuts that you can use to go to specific folders, and 
these work in the dialog windows as well.  One useful shortcut that I posted 
about yesterday is Command-Shift-G, which stands for "Go to Folder".  This can 
be used to specify a path to a folder on any mounted device, with any number of 
subfolders in the path.  It can be a folder under the main System directory, a 
subfolder on an external disk drive or one on an attached USB memory stick.  
For the case you outline of saving to a subfolder of Documents I would first 
press  Command-S to save, and then in the dialog window I would press 
Command-Shift-G.  In the text box I would type:
~/Documents/Papers
That's an initial tilde symbol (by pressing the Shift key in combination with 
the accent key at the far left of the row of number keys on an English language 
input keyboard), to indicate the present user's home directory, followed by a 
slash, followed by the word "Documents", followed by another slash, followed by 
the name of the subfolder, which is "Papers" in the current example.

The other way you could navigate to the folder if, for example, you didn't 
remember its name, or if you wanted to check the file names in the subfolder to 
use consistent naming syntax, is to navigate past the text field for the file 
name in the "Save as" dialog to the check box for "Disclosure" and activate 
this (with VO-Space, or by pressing the Up and Down arrow keys simultaneously 
if you are in QuickNav mode, or by double tapping on the TrackPad in you are 
navigating with TrackPad Commander).  This will expand to show you a window 
like the regular full, Finder windows where you can navigate through the 
contents of the selected folder.  So, if you are in the Documents folder (as 
noted by the pop up menu button selection), you can navigate (VO-Right arrow, 
using the arrow keys of QuickNav, or with right flicks on the TrackPad with 
TrackPad Commander) to the file browser and interact.  The view of Finder that 
you see here can be selected with Command-1 (icon view), Command-2 (list view), 
or Command-3 (column view) just as it can with Finder.  I use list view if I 
want information on the modification date, because I can easily navigate to 
that column and sort (with VO-Shift-Backslash on an English input keyboard -- 
for other languages you can use VO-H-H to bring up the Commands Window, 
navigate to "Tables" and select the entry for "Sort column").  This lists the 
files in modification date order instead of alphabetically by name, and is a 
quick way to find the most recently modified files.  Actually, you can sort on 
any column of information that is displayed in list view mode.  (Sorting is a 
toggle action, and when applied a second time will reverse the order of the 
sort.)  You can use column view mode display if you want to easily view and 
navigate to subfolders.  In all of these modes, you can navigate down folders.  
Then, when you save the file with specified name, it will be stored in your 
selected folder.

Incidentally, in the first example, after using Command-Shift-G, typing in the 
folder path, and with the name of the  file correctly filled in, I just press 
the Return key to commit the selections in the save action instead of 
navigating to "Save" buttons in the menu. Similarly, if I want to cancel an 
action, I press the Escape key instead of navigating to a "Cancel" button.  
This works more efficiently in many dialog windows, provided you are familiar 
with the menu contents.

In general, if you want to read up on Finder menu shortcuts, and many VoiceOver 
tips and tricks, a good place to check is Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages:
http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/

This is a great source of information about the general layout of apps.  Look 
at his keyboard shortcuts link for the information I gave above.  The pages are 
written for Snow Leopard, Leopard, and Tiger.  I'm not sure whether everything 
is up to date, because Tim was away from the list for quite a while between 
Leopard and the release of Snow Leopard, and started updating for Snow Leopard 
when he came back some months ago.  I haven't seen many posts from him 
recently, but his information is excellent when he has a chance to post.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Oct 5, 2011, at 08:37, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I cannot for the world figure   out how to save a document in a subfolder of 
> documents. I see the save where menu and press it and find options like idisk 
> or pictures or etc but don't know how to go in subfolders.
> 
> Thanks for our clarifications.
> 
> Ioana
> 

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