Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: OK so it is a bug in TeXLive 2007. TeXLive 2008 and MiKTeX 2.7 and 2.8 don't show the problem. Therefore I opt not to hardcode a solution for a bug of a special LaTeX distribution that is already fixed. OK, but this LaTeX bug affects 37.5% of the installations,

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: > A ticket for "enable custom insertions before the required packages", yes. which we already have: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5031 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/5366 >Independent of this, there are cases where you want to pass an option >to an autoloaded package but can

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-09-07, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg154250.html > Thanks. >> Should I file a ticket ? A ticket for "enable custom insertions before the required packages", yes. > How hard will it be for affected people

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Jürgen Spitzmüller writes: > > How hard will it be for affected people to upgrade the respective packages? Not hard, but needs patience. Here is the procedure on Linux to install TeXLive 2008: 1) Download the netinstaller (e.g. in /tmp) cd /tmp wget http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/CTAN/systems/t

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg154250.html Thanks. > Should I file a ticket ? I'm not sure. I do not much like the idea of adding a new package dependency to fix a bug which is solved since almost two years, especially since nameref does so

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Jürgen Spitzmüller writes: > > Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > > OK, but this LaTeX bug affects 37.5% of the installations, from the > > statistics on the Users' list... > > It's a quite bold idea to call the response of 8 people "statistics" and to > deduce such a general percentage from that

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Pierre Chrétien wrote: > OK, but this LaTeX bug affects 37.5% of the installations, from the > statistics on the Users' list... It's a quite bold idea to call the response of 8 people "statistics" and to deduce such a general percentage from that ;-) BTW could you post again a pointer to y

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-07 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : > Result in lyx-users: 5 success, 3 failures, clearly related to the TeXLive version (failure is > with TeXLive 2007). > > I myself upgraded TeXLive to 2008 with success (without and with my patch). OK so it is a bug in TeXLive 2007. TeXLive 2008 and MiKTeX 2.7 and 2.8

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> Result in lyx-users: 5 success, 3 failures, clearly related to the TeXLive version (failure is > with TeXLive 2007). > > I myself upgraded TeXLive to 2008 with success (without and with my patch). OK so it is a bug in TeXLive 2007. TeXLive 2008 and MiKTeX 2.7 and 2.8 don't show the problem. T

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-09-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : [...] OK to assure that this hardcoding doesn't introduce new problems, can you please prepare a small LyX example file that fails for you and ask on the french-users and lyx-users mailing list who is able to compile the file with LyX 1.6.4 and who not. We need to know what

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: Can you please try to add this to the document preamble: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{nameref}} I did already try... no way, nameref should be added before varioref (otherwise I wouldn't have changed the LyX code itself). In fact, nameref *is* loaded without my p

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: [...] Can you please try to add this to the document preamble: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{nameref}} I did already try... no way, nameref should be added before varioref (otherwise I wouldn't have changed the LyX code itself). In fact, name

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: That seems sound, yes. An other way would be to hack the French manuals directly. Is there a way to load nameref before other packages ? Can you please try to add this to the document preamble: \AtBeginDocument{\usepackage{nameref}} What have you used until now

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: [...] The problem you have is a problem with LaTeX packages not with LyX. We try to avoid to introduce hard coded hacks into LyX to fix bugs in LaTeX packages. Only when such a problem is not fixable or when the package manuals explicitly rec

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-27 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Uwe Stöhr a écrit : > With my Debian Lenny, doc/fr/Userguide.lyx and doc/fr/EmbeddedObjects.lyx > compilations fail because character ":" is active in French. This is nowadays OK > with most packages, but not with varioref, which version here is the last one > according to CTAN: > [2006/0

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jean-Pierre Chrétien schrieb: This loop (add \endcsname then complain about it) are due to ":" being active in French, and seem to come from a nasty interaction between varioref and hyperref. It may also come from babel, a bit outdated here, but if I try to update babel alone, I get a lot mo

Re: UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> With my Debian Lenny, doc/fr/Userguide.lyx and doc/fr/EmbeddedObjects.lyx > compilations fail because character ":" is active in French. This is nowadays OK > with most packages, but not with varioref, which version here is the last one > according to CTAN: > [2006/05/13 v1.4p package for exten

UserGuide and EmbeddedObjects compilations fail in French

2009-08-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Hello, With my Debian Lenny, doc/fr/Userguide.lyx and doc/fr/EmbeddedObjects.lyx compilations fail because character ":" is active in French. This is nowadays OK with most packages, but not with varioref, which version here is the last one according to CTAN: [2006/05/13 v1.4p package for exten