Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-31 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Both of these sound fine to me: No document (is) open No Angus> documents (are) open Angus> I think I side with Richard on this one. I too prefer the Angus> singular. Thanks for your comment. I committed a version with singular fo

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-30 Thread Angus Leeming
Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What is best? We have "No documents open!" now, the principle of least > > effort would advise to keep it like that... > > > I guess I prefer the singular. The plural suggests that documentS should > have been open---that this was the expected situati

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:48:41AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" > > Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? > > Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-30 Thread Richard Heck
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Richard> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" > > Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? > > Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want to > Lars> give it a different meaning.) > >>> I do not know... S

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Richard" == Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" >> Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? >> Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want to Lars> give it a different meaning.) >> I do

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-30 Thread Richard Heck
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" > > Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? > > Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want to > Lars> give it a different meaning.) > > I do not know... So where are the native English speakers? > "No

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" >> Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? >> Lars> I thought that 'No' usually

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want to Lars> give it a different meaning.) I do not know... So

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> | I prefer "No document open!" Lars> Sounds strange. Is that even english? Lars> I thought that 'No' usually required plural (unless you want to Lars> give it a different meaning.) I do not know... So where are the native Eng

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Abdelrazak> I like this, thanks :-) | | Other comments? Jose, shall I apply? | | >> (shall I use the plural and Upcase, like in the first message?). | | Abdelrazak> I pers

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Dov Feldstern
Elazar Leibovich wrote: On 5/29/07, Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > On 5/29/07, Dov Feldstern > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Elazar Leibovich wrote: >> > The inset makes it crystal clear and intuitive as to where the next >> > character will be placed. It has

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:18:29 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > You mean "No document open!" and "No branch in document!"? Yes. > JMarc -- José Abílio

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:05:41 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> What shall I do about the language? José> I like your choices. :-) You mean "No document open!" and "No branch in document!"? JMarc

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:05:41 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > What shall I do about the language? I like your choices. :-) > JMarc -- José Abílio

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "José" == José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: José> On Tuesday 29 May 2007 14:35:04 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Other comments? Jose, shall I apply? José> It seems OK. I like it. :-) What shall I do about the language? JMarc

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
On 5/29/07, Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > On 5/29/07, Dov Feldstern > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Elazar Leibovich wrote: >> > The inset makes it crystal clear and intuitive as to where the next >> > character will be placed. It has it's problems though. >>

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Dov Feldstern
Elazar Leibovich wrote: On 5/29/07, Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > The inset makes it crystal clear and intuitive as to where the next > character will be placed. It has it's problems though. > I was aware to the F12 key, but I thought (and still think) it's >

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
1) Redundacy. Before, I had to remember and take care of two variables, Lyx language and keyboard language. Now I just need to remember the keyboard language. 2) Clearance. No user expect the application to have a language specific implementation, moreover - how would he guess it's F12? So that's

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Dov Feldstern
Elazar Leibovich wrote: The inset makes it crystal clear and intuitive as to where the next character will be placed. It has it's problems though. I was aware to the F12 key, but I thought (and still think) it's preferable not to use it, as now Lyx recieves input from the cursor. But what's so

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
Fair question. I edited quite a bit of text. My seminar, the works at the crypto course. Some other works in various courses. Maybe not as much as you did. The inset makes it crystal clear and intuitive as to where the next character will be placed. It has it's problems though. I was aware to the

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:54:40AM +0300, Elazar Leibovich wrote: > I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in > RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the > user to change the directionality (step out of the inset, like you do > in math), and

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Dov Feldstern
Elazar Leibovich wrote: I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the user to change the directionality (step out of the inset, like you do in math), and we can trigger new RTL inset insertion upon inpu

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 14:35:04 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Other comments? Jose, shall I apply? It seems OK. I like it. :-) -- José Abílio

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> I like this, thanks :-) Other comments? Jose, shall I apply? >> (shall I use the plural and Upcase, like in the first message?). Abdelrazak> I personally like the non plural, non Upcase style: Abdelrazak> + _("No D

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It would make sense if the Branch menu contained a disabled "No branch defined" menu entry. Abdelrazak> Is this possible with current architecture? Yes, like this I like this, thanks :-) (shall I

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It would make sense if the Branch menu contained a disabled "No >> branch defined" menu entry. Abdelrazak> Is this possible with current architecture? Yes, like this (shall I use the plural and Upcase, like in the first mess

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Empty menus are bad. Abdelrazak> Indiscoverable features are bad. Features are bad anyway. If you insist, the patch would be as follow, but after trying it, I do not see how it would help _anyone_.

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Empty menus are bad. Abdelrazak> Indiscoverable features are bad. Features are bad anyway. If you insist, the patch would be as follow, but after trying it, I do not see how it would help _anyone_. It would make sense if t

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Sent too fast sorry: Abdelrazak> You can create a Branch in the Document Settings dialog Abdelrazak> (Branches). Then this branch will be available in the Abdelrazak> Insert->Branch submenu.

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Sent too fast sorry: Abdelrazak> You can create a Branch in the Document Settings dialog Abdelrazak> (Branches). Then this branch will be available in the Abdelrazak> Insert->Branch submenu. Abdelrazak> By the way, I

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
On 5/29/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > On 5/29/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Elazar Leibovich wrote: >> > I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in >> > RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'l

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: On 5/29/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in > RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the > user to change the

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Elazar Leibovich wrote: On 5/29/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in > RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the > user to change the directionality (step out

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Elazar Leibovich
On 5/29/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Elazar Leibovich wrote: > I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in > RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the > user to change the directionality (step out of the inset, like you do

Re: Putting Rtl content in Insets

2007-05-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Elazar Leibovich wrote: I'm having a new idea for RTL in Lyx. Why won't we put RTL (or LTR in RTL paragraph) content in insets? that way, it'll be intuitive for the user to change the directionality (step out of the inset, like you do in math), and we can trigger new RTL inset insertion upon inpu