Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread John Levon
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 06:31:41PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Ok, another patch. This time without the controversial inset-toggle > stuff. Please apply. Applied. thanks, john

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread Michael Schmitt
John Levon wrote: The edit menu should be kept as short as possible since it's the second most commonly used after 'Insert'. In particular, the open/close insets stuff needs to go into the View menu. Hmmm... you are right. Though "Open/Close Inset" and "View DVI" do not have much in common.

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread John Levon
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John, speak to us - we are awaiting your approval. The edit menu should be kept as short as possible since it's the second most commonly used after 'Insert'. In particular, the open/close insets stuff needs to go into the View men

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Schmitt wrote: > Please apply. done. Jürgen

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread John Levon
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John, speak to us - we are awaiting your approval. I just got off a long couple of flights from the US, I'm afraid you must wait a little longer until I can see properly :) john

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: This looks good to me, but I'll let John comment too. Just one thing: inset-toggle may not exist anymore, but we have two lfuns instead ... Wouldn't it make sense to add them to the menu? Indeed. The menus should cover all LyX features. I have created a new exte

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Jean-Marc, this is another attempt to correct the UI files Michael> and make them consistent. This time, I used ellipses (...) Michael> according to the KDE human interface guideline. Another text change that would be great i

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Jean-Marc, this is another attempt to correct the UI files Michael> and make them consistent. This time, I used ellipses (...) Michael> according to the KDE human interface guideline. This looks good to me, but I'll let John

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Schmitt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: As far as I know, we do not ship a GNOME version of LyX. Therefore, it would be more interesting to know what is said in OSX, Win32 and KDE UI guides. I do not remember the specifics, but it seems to me that we are not too far. This it was the KDE UI guideline says: "

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Before, ellipses have been used in an inconsistent way; the Michael> ellipses neither followed the GNOME _nor_ Jean-Marc's rule! As far as I know, we do not ship a GNOME version of LyX. Therefore, it would be more interesting

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Before, ellipses have been used in an inconsistent way; the Michael> ellipses neither followed the GNOME _nor_ Jean-Marc's rule! Michael> How was I supposed to know? It seems I need to prepare seriously my defense. I do not

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John Levon wrote: > > >Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the > >interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will > >bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) > > > John +

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > >Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the > >interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will > >bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) > > > > John + Michael = 2, Jean -

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Schmitt wrote: > That means we do not consider classic.ui as a serious alternative. Which > again raises the question why we have it at all... Because human beings aren't entirely logical. In fact, some of them hate change even when change is for the good. -- Angus

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Michael Schmitt
John Levon wrote: Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) John + Michael = 2, Jean - Marc = 1. Hmmm, we have overruled him again :-) So your changes

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:36:21PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Please check the patch carefully (John L.?) and commit it. Regarding the > use of "...", please note the following excerpt from the GNOME human > interface guidelines: > > "Label the menu item with a trailing ellipsis ("...") o