Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Michael Gerz
José Matos schrieb: On Sunday 29 April 2007 16:48:35 Michael Gerz wrote: Hi, the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to "nomenclature". I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). AFAIU this is consensual, so please go ahead. As so

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 29 April 2007 16:48:35 Michael Gerz wrote: > Hi, > > the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to > "nomenclature". > > I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). AFAIU this is consensual, so please go ahead. > Michael -- José Abílio

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to "nomenclature". > > I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). Why that? The official name for this is "Glossary" and is used in all my books I have? I therefore vote for no, so n

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Michael Gerz
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: Michael Gerz schrieb: Please note that LaTeX will produce a "glossary" with the title "Nomenclature" (try it out if you don't believe). Oops, indeed. Ok I give an OK. Fine. Now I need a second OK to proceed. Guys? Michael

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Michael Gerz schrieb: Please note that LaTeX will produce a "glossary" with the title "Nomenclature" (try it out if you don't believe). Oops, indeed. Ok I give an OK. regards Uwe

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Michael Gerz
Uwe Stöhr schrieb: > the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to "nomenclature". > > I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). Why that? The official name for this is "Glossary" and is used in all my books I have? I therefore vote for no, so no

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to "nomenclature". > > I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). Why that? The official name for this is "Glossary" and is used in all my books I have? I therefore vote for no, so now you need three OKs ;

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-29 Thread Michael Gerz
Hi, the attached patch changes some uses of the term "glossary" to "nomenclature". I will commit as soon as I get two OKs. (José vote will count as two). Michael José Matos schrieb: On Wednesday 25 April 2007 8:53:54 am Georg Baum wrote: What I mean is that the insets that creates a no

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-27 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 8:53:54 am Georg Baum wrote: > > What I mean is that the insets that creates a nomenclature for LaTeX should > not create a glossary for docbook. This is confusing, therefore the > nomenclature inset should output something else than glossary entries for > docbook IMHO.

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
In practice there is no single difference. All packages accept math symbols and sort them in an identical way. That is why we can replace them easily. Ugras On 4/25/07, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> umm..

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> umm.. Really, what is the difference?? :-) One is for words and the other for mathematical notation. Or at least I thought so. JMarc

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
umm.. Really, what is the difference?? :-) On 4/25/07, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> This is in my TODO list. I have already finished the multiple Ozgur> indices and thinking on extending it for multiple g

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> This is in my TODO list. I have already finished the multiple Ozgur> indices and thinking on extending it for multiple glossaries. Ozgur> But how will users react for this? Two glossary packages will Ozgur> create confusion. N

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
On 4/25/07, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> Terminology fits good, but Jean-Marc has a point. The title of Ozgur> the glossary is Nomenclature by default and it will be wise to Ozgur> keep the same word for me

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Georg Baum
José Matos wrote: > On Monday 23 April 2007 5:52:23 pm Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> >> Georg> The only problem with this is the docbook output. AFAIK docbook >> Georg> does not support a nomenclature or list of symbols. Maybe one >> Georg> could use variablelist, but it does not fit exactly. IMH

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> Terminology fits good, but Jean-Marc has a point. The title of Ozgur> the glossary is Nomenclature by default and it will be wise to Ozgur> keep the same word for menu references for the sake of Ozgur> consistency. Yes, I think

Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
problem is there is no "Real" glossary package. The most common one was (and still is) nomencl. I can add/ switch to support for a better glossary package. But the question is which one.. If there would be any concensus on which glossary package to switch for, I will happily implement it. glossa

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
Terminology fits good, but Jean-Marc has a point. The title of the glossary is Nomenclature by default and it will be wise to keep the same word for menu references for the sake of consistency. Anybody else wishes switching for another glossary package? It will be easy for me to implement it (if

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Michael Gerz wrote: Ozgur Ugras BARAN schrieb: Notation Entry/ Notation List in user visible places, IMHO. People complained about Nomenclature word before. (Some people also complained for Notation word :-) ). Actually, it was me who complained about "Notation" :-) Thi

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Michael Gerz
Ozgur Ugras BARAN schrieb: Notation Entry/ Notation List in user visible places, IMHO. People complained about Nomenclature word before. (Some people also complained for Notation word :-) ). Actually, it was me who complained about "Notation" :-) This term - at least in German - is rather mean

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> Notation Entry/ Notation List in user visible places, IMHO. Ozgur> People complained about Nomenclature word before. (Some people Ozgur> also complained for Notation word :-) ). But Nomenclature is the word that appears in the

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
Notation Entry/ Notation List in user visible places, IMHO. People complained about Nomenclature word before. (Some people also complained for Notation word :-) ). And maybe a warning for glotex in the lyx documentation. On 4/24/07, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ozgur"

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ozgur" == Ozgur Ugras BARAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ozgur> I like the doc version which omits the oldnomencl stuff. But I Ozgur> observed one single problem: You are invoking makeindex for Ozgur> nomencl after checking the the files with extensions .nlo OR Ozgur> .glo exists.. However,

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-24 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
.diff follows the idea suggested by Jean-Marc: Test for the nomencl version in chkconfig.ltx and put either "nomencl" or "nomencl" and "oldnomencl" to the packages.list file. Then the availability of "oldnomencl" is tested to determine the version, defin

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread José Matos
On Monday 23 April 2007 5:52:23 pm Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Georg> The only problem with this is the docbook output. AFAIK docbook > Georg> does not support a nomenclature or list of symbols. Maybe one > Georg> could use variablelist, but it does not fit exactly. IMHO > Georg> glossary shoul

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> I prefer the doc version, because the tests in tex seem to be error >> prone to me. >> >> What about the following updated version? Only the LaTeXFeatures >> part has been changed. Georg> Fine with me.

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> What I forgot: Of course you can misuse the nomencl stuff for Georg> glossaries and redefine \nomname in the preamble, but I don't Georg> think that LyX should do that. Indeed. JMarc

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread Georg Baum
Georg Baum wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Then the is the problem of glossary versus nomenclature. At least my >> version of nomencl.sty writes a helpful "Nomenclature" heading in >> front of my glossary. This is stupid. > > Did you see Ugras' explanation for the choice of nomencl? IMHO

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I prefer the doc version, because the tests in tex seem to be > error prone to me. > > What about the following updated version? Only the LaTeXFeatures part > has been changed. Fine with me. Do you put that in, or shall I do? > Then the is the problem of glossary v

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>>>>> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Here are my solutions: config.diff follows the idea suggested Georg> by Jean-Marc: Test for the nomencl version in chkconfig.ltx and Georg> put either "nomencl" or "nomencl"

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-22 Thread Georg Baum
tions of makeindex. The advantage of this solution is that there are no checks in the document. The disadvantage is that you need to reconfigure if the nomencl version changes. The other version in doc.diff was almost finished before Jean-Marc made his suggestion, so I finished it and presen

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-20 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
If you have a solution, go ahead, since I haven't got one but got an idea only :). I just try to act responsible :) I can still give you a hand, if you wish.. On 4/20/07, Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote: > Hi all, > > If I can find a computer this weekend and if

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-20 Thread Georg Baum
Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote: > Hi all, > > If I can find a computer this weekend and if nobody is already caring > about nomencl.sty version mess, I'll try to find a solution. As I wrote some days ago I have a solution that is almost finished and that I will send when Jean-Marc is back. Of course if

Re: Nomencl version

2007-04-19 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 19 April 2007 3:46:37 pm Ozgur Ugras BARAN wrote: > Hi all, > > If I can find a computer this weekend and if nobody is already caring about > nomencl.sty version mess, I'll try to find a solution. Please do. :-) > Maybe you may wish to postpone Beta-2 until I submit the patch. Indee

Nomencl version

2007-04-19 Thread Ozgur Ugras BARAN
Hi all, If I can find a computer this weekend and if nobody is already caring about nomencl.sty version mess, I'll try to find a solution. Maybe you may wish to postpone Beta-2 until I submit the patch. Indeed, releasing beta with this bug will end up with thousands of complaints. For me, it is