On October 23, 2003 07:57 am, John Levon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:52:07AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > Everything else would leave us with the need of forward-porting 50 new
> > features. If we stick to 1.3.xcvs we'd end up in the same situation as
> > the change tracking patch. Works
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 04:12:57PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > Change tracking worked almost perfectly in 1.4.0cvs some time ago
>
> What's missing nowadays?
It's not a matter of missing, more that most things are broken.
regards
john
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 02:57:36PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:52:07AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > Everything else would leave us with the need of forward-porting 50 new
> > features. If we stick to 1.3.xcvs we'd end up in the same situation as
> > the change tracki
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:52:07AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Everything else would leave us with the need of forward-porting 50 new
> features. If we stick to 1.3.xcvs we'd end up in the same situation as
> the change tracking patch. Works for some ancient version only.
Change tracking worked
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote:
> In my experience, some filtering would definitely be needed...
> some (most?) students can be lazy and ask the most silly questions
> rather than think for themselves...
So why doesn't the standard open source method of fi
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>
> > Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > >> [I'd be a bit happier with the whole idea if there were just 30 or 50
> > >> students or so...]
> > >
> > | You don't say...
> >
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> [I'd be a bit happier with the whole idea if there were just 30 or 50
> >> students or so...]
> >
> | You don't say...
>
> but of course this is a bit of an experiment for us as well... so
Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> [I'd be a bit happier with the whole idea if there were just 30 or 50
>> students or so...]
>
| You don't say...
but of course this is a bit of an experiment for us as well... so
bring it on!
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 06:12:36AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
>
> > How will the list communicate with lyx-devel? One idea is for them to send
> > their patches to their professor for review before sending it over to this
> > list.
>
> The professor
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> >
> > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
> > it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
> > fluctuating st
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 06:12:36AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> >
> > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
> > it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
>
> Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
> it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
> fluctuating state (e.g. sometimes it doesn't even compile).
I disagre
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Christian Ridderström wrote:
>
> > and that's why I've decide to initially work
> > (listings) against 1.3.3 and then port it to latest cvs.
>
> As you choose, but you're doubling your work and nobody will try out
> preliminary versions of your code.
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > But why assume that the students work will be in one large patch?
> > Shouldn't we demand that each student project results in a separate patch?
>
> The results of a student's project should be incremental.
>
> If the projects lasts for three months
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 12:25:13PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>>
>> > > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
>> > > it could be frustrating working with the CVS v
Christian Ridderström wrote:
>
> You can revert your code and know that it will work (I can't compile
> Qt any more...)
What's not working for you. No progress is made by keeping silent
about such things.
> and that's why I've decide to initially work
> (listings) against 1.3.3 and then port
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:13:55PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > > > Everything else would leave us with the need of forward-porting 50 new
> > > > features. If we stick to 1.3.xcvs we'd end up in the same situation as
> > > > the change trac
> > I see no benefit over a regualr 'cvs up'.
>
> You can revert your code and know that it _will_ work
(You can do:
cvs up -r
of course, but then we might as well give them a tag.
/Christian
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > > Everything else would leave us with the need of forward-porting 50 new
> > > features. If we stick to 1.3.xcvs we'd end up in the same situation as
> > > the change tracking patch. Works for some ancient version only.
> > >
> > > 1.4.0cvs is stable
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 12:25:13PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> > > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
> > > it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
> > > fluctuating st
Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
| it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
| fluctuating state (e.g. sometimes it doesn't even compile).
On the other hand... working on
Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
>> > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work
>> > with... it could be frustrating working with the CVS version
>> > since it's in a very fluctuating state (e.g. sometimes it doesn't
>> > even compi
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > Another question is what version of LyX the students should work with...
> > it could be frustrating working with the CVS version since it's in a very
> > fluctuating state (e.g. sometimes it doesn't even compile).
>
> Everything else would leave us
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:33:59AM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Amir Michail wrote:
>
> > However note that we are talking about 200 students. Even if they work in
> > pairs, having design discussions with 100 pairs may be too much.
> >
> > I think we might need a f
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Amir Michail wrote:
> However note that we are talking about 200 students. Even if they work in
> pairs, having design discussions with 100 pairs may be too much.
>
> I think we might need a filtering scheme so that only meaningful questions
> make it to this list. As I me
Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:28 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
>> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> | We are always interested. One thing that I would note is that we're a
>> | small collection of programmers and are very wary of enormous
>> |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:28 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | We are always interested. One thing that I would note is that we're a
> | small collection of programmers and are very wary of enormous
> | patches, prefering a 'little and often' approach.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 04:45:01PM +0200, Andre Poenitz spake thusly:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 04:28:13PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > | We are always interested. One thing that I would note is that we're a
> > | small collection of pr
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:43:18PM +1000, Amir Michail wrote:
> I'm thinking of giving a LyX programming assignment to a class of 200
> 3rd year software engineering students. This is for COMP3141 at UNSW:
This would be great (fun) !
> I was wondering if you have any interest in this experiment
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 04:28:13PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | We are always interested. One thing that I would note is that we're a
> | small collection of programmers and are very wary of enormous
> | patches, prefering a 'little and ofte
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| We are always interested. One thing that I would note is that we're a
| small collection of programmers and are very wary of enormous
| patches, prefering a 'little and often' approach. Moreover, because
| we are trying to clean the code base up (and
Amir Michail wrote:
> I was wondering if you have any interest in this experiment. In
> particular, would any LyX developers be able to suggest bug fixes,
> minor feature requests, major features, etc?
Of course. But many of these are already scribbled down at
http://www.devel.lyx.org/roadmap.php
Hi,
I'm thinking of giving a LyX programming assignment to a class of 200
3rd year software engineering students. This is for COMP3141 at UNSW:
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs3141
The students vary considerably in ability from some who are quite
weak to superstar programmers.
Consequently, if I
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