Re: Listings patch (was Re: LyX 1.4 task list)

2003-12-02 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Christian Ridderström wrote: > Actually, the problem can't be that difficult since I had Herbert's patch > working in Xforms, and it is only since I started over by first adding > a patch I got form Juergen (for Qt) that nothing is inserted. Does that problem (nothing inserted) only occur in the q

Listings patch (was Re: LyX 1.4 task list)

2003-12-02 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > > I'm working (ok was working before the wiki-stuff sidetracked me) on > > Herbert's listings (support for the listings package). This ought to > > be ready (long) before 1.4 I believe. Basically I have a bug in the > >

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Christian Ridderström wrote: >> Did I miss anything? Or is anybody working on some pet project that >> shall be included in LyX 1.4? > > I'm working (ok was working before the wiki-stuff sidetracked me) on > Herbert's listings (support for the listings package). This ought to > be ready (long) bef

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-02 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Michael Schmitt wrote: > *** > > Did I miss anything? Or is anybody working on some pet project that > shall be included in LyX 1.4? I'm working (ok was working before the wiki-stuff sidetracked me) on Herbert'

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What we could do is have >> >> - a text field for the file name, with a browse button >> >> - a combox (less clutter that a list like we have now) with the >> list of types (== templates), which is set initially to 'auto' (or >> 'defa

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-02 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 06:33:59PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > You have my vote too. Which reminds me: I like the mathed approach to > tables ;-) But it's harder to move the outer world tables that way... Andre'

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-02 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 01 December 2003 09:48, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > I still do not give up hope that LyX 1.4 will eventually become reality. > > Since http://www.devel.lyx.org/roadmap.php3 is totally outdated (it > lists some features that were initially planned for 1.2), I started to > set up a

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Andre> Relying on extensions to determine the file type is not very > Andre> robust. I could e.g. imagine that the mapping extension -> > Andre> application is not 1:1. > > We have some code to guess type by contents already. > > Andre> However, from an UI point of v

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz wrote: > We basically have a choice of making what we have now workable and > create some fragile glue code (which should be better than we had > before, but...) or tame that beast for good. > I am opting for the latter right now as this minimizes total effort > in the long run. You

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Andre Poenitz wrote: >> Asger proposed a solution to this. Each dialog could save its >> 'stateful' variables in files preferences.xforms, preferences.qt >> etc > But that's pretty complicated for the dialog author unless this is > done somehow automatically. Oh, I'm sure we could automate it, ju

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:59:33PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John Levon wrote: > > >This is actually 99% of the work. I hope people are beginning to see > >what a massive task this actually is now ... just getting tables back up > >and running will probably take *weeks* (sadly, I don't think

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Relying on extensions to determine the file type is not very Andre> robust. I could e.g. imagine that the mapping extension -> Andre> application is not 1:1. We have some code to guess type by contents already. Andre> However, fro

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Michael Schmitt
John Levon wrote: This is actually 99% of the work. I hope people are beginning to see what a massive task this actually is now ... just getting tables back up and running will probably take *weeks* (sadly, I don't think I'm exaggerating). And I also hope people are beginning to see that _every_ n

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:53:37PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> As always, life is a little complicated. The only reason to > Angus> have two dialogs is to 1. Get rid of that combox (XFig, Raster, > Angus> Chess, Date) e

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> As always, life is a little complicated. The only reason to Angus> have two dialogs is to 1. Get rid of that combox (XFig, Raster, Angus> Chess, Date) etc when we know that we want to insert a graphic. Angus> However, XFig, Raster,

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:52:50PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > John Levon wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > >> > So, the need for the combox remains even for 'graphic' files, > >> > unless we 'pollute' the calling menu Insert->XFig, Insert->Raster

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:52:50PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Indeed. Isn't the current, 1.4.x heirarchy something like: > Insert->XYZ->External Material > where I forget XYZ, leading to > Insert->XYZ->XFig, etc. > > Of course, we might have a separate 'External' sub menu >

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
John Levon wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > >> > So, the need for the combox remains even for 'graphic' files, >> > unless we 'pollute' the calling menu Insert->XFig, Insert->Raster >> > etc. >> >> I even like this idea. I'd rather access something in the

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:29:23PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > So, the need for the combox remains even for 'graphic' files, unless > > we 'pollute' the calling menu Insert->XFig, Insert->Raster etc. > > I even like this idea. I'd rather access something in the menu > hierarchy instead of so

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 03:16:33PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > So, the need for the combox remains even for 'graphic' files, unless > we 'pollute' the calling menu Insert->XFig, Insert->Raster etc. I even like this idea. I'd rather access something in the menu hierarchy instead of some dialog w

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Angus> Actually, what you said is that having a single > Angus> inset that was able to handle any 'external' data > Angus> (ie InsetExternal) would result in a UI something > Angus> like that of PowerPoint where a single dialog > Angus> controls the input of many, con

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Actually, what you said is that having a single inset that was Angus> able to handle any 'external' data (ie InsetExternal) would Angus> result in a UI something like that of PowerPoint where a single Angus> dialog controls the inpu

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> * I think that I would like to give the External inset > dialogs Angus> the ability to rotate, resize and crop their data. > This Angus> involves additions to qt/QExternal* and > xforms/FormExternal

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> * I think that I would like to give the External inset dialogs Angus> the ability to rotate, resize and crop their data. This Angus> involves additions to qt/QExternal* and xforms/FormExternal* Angus> only. Angus> That would make I

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:25:04PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Undo should be checked again. Undo is (fairly) trivially crashing again regards john -- Khendon's Law: If the same point is made twice by the same person, the thread is over.

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:48:13AM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > set up a new task list covering the remaining open issues of LyX 1.4. > > Beside the usual bug fixing, I see the following open issues: This is actually 99% of the work. I hope people are beginning to see what a massive task this

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Schmitt wrote: > I still do not give up hope that LyX 1.4 will eventually become > reality. As someone noted a wee while ago, the changes in functionality from 1.3 to 1.4 are small. The long lead time does not mean that users are missing out. > Optional tasks > > - Frontend: > - Contr

Re: LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:48:13AM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Mandatory tasks > > - Kernel > - General cleanup (details?) (AB, AP) I think we are "structurally" through. User interaction with tables is completely broken due to the one-and-a-half cursor slice limbo. [I am a bit in a di

LyX 1.4 task list

2003-12-01 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hello, I still do not give up hope that LyX 1.4 will eventually become reality. Since http://www.devel.lyx.org/roadmap.php3 is totally outdated (it lists some features that were initially planned for 1.2), I started to set up a new task list covering the remaining open issues of LyX 1.4. Besid