Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-08 Thread Joost Verburg
It doesn't look like the problem with Aspell binaries is going to be solved before the release of LyX 1.4.0 for Windows, so here are the installer scripts that provide all files for applications like LyX that are statically linked to Aspell. Note that the new aspell_dict script requires one ad

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-08 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Paul" == Paul A Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> The new interface looks nice, but at my age adaptation takes Paul> time. (You can in fact teach an old dog new tricks, but Paul> typically a rolled-up newspaper is involved.) Note that you can revert to the

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Paul" == Paul A Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> The new interface looks nice, but at my age adaptation takes Paul> time. (You can in fact teach an old dog new tricks, but Paul> typically a rolled-up newspaper is involved.) Note that you can revert to the old interface by selecting

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-07 Thread Joost Verburg
Using the latest CVS version of Aspell should improve the situation. However, I cannot get it to compile. Msybe you can have a look at it? Joost

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: I see an installer at http://aspell.net/win32 for aspell 0.5. Can you reuse that or would it be easier to start afresh with NSIS? I wrote an installer for Aspell 0.6 and an updated dictionary installer. However, things seem to be a little more diffi

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: I see an installer at http://aspell.net/win32 for aspell 0.5. Can you reuse that or would it be easier to start afresh with NSIS? I wrote an installer for Aspell 0.6 and an updated dictionary installer. However, things seem to be a little more difficult. The --enable-win

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Thanks for this report, Stephen. Joost are you reading? These data files are indeed also required. It looks like we have to create an installer for Aspell itself as well. I see an installer at http://aspell.net/win32 for aspell 0.5. Can you reuse t

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Thanks for this report, Stephen. Joost are you reading? These data files are indeed also required. It looks like we have to create an installer for Aspell itself as well. Joost

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris wrote: I'll have a go at the installation with a newly minted dict. The installer offered the correct default folder for installation. However, I encountered the same problem as before, there are missing files. "The spellchecker could not be started, the file "c:/Aspell/lib/aspe

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: Thanks for building all 80 Aspell dictionary installers, but it was maybe a better idea to test one first (as I said in my previous post the installer script was untested). When testing your installers I noticed that the uninstaller user interface is broken, this should b

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Angus Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0 Angus wrote: Hi, Paul. Hi, Stephen. Does it really "bomb" or are

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Stephen Harris
Angus wrote: Hi, Paul. Hi, Stephen. Does it really "bomb" or are you just missing a dictionary? If so, try grabbing one from http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Aspell6 - SH: The problem I experienced was that C:\Aspell\lib\aspell-0.60> was not creat

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: So you're not interested in fixing things? I guess I misunderstood you. I mean that there is no point in a workaround (putting dictionaries in the LyX directory) if it's not easier than a good solution (making it a configuration option). > http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/As

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Angus Leeming
Paul A. Rubin wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> I'm still mulling over what to do with aspell. > FWIW, I installed 1.4.0pre2. Installation was smooth, and the > configuration script ran when it was supposed to (unlike with 1.37). > File->Import lists three options, including LaTeX, so that's fixed

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> I think that the Aspell dictionaries aren't our business. We shouldn't >> package them with LyX. Uwe can throw them into his installer if he likes >> (it's his installer after all :)) but LyX itself shouldn't have to look >> for these dictionaries in a

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: I think that the Aspell dictionaries aren't our business. We shouldn't package them with LyX. Uwe can throw them into his installer if he likes (it's his installer after all :)) but LyX itself shouldn't have to look for these dictionaries in a hard-wired location. The curre

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> We don't use aspell.exe. We link aspell.lib statically into >> lyx.exe. It's perfectly possible to install (and use) the >> dictionaries without installing aspell.exe. > Then I don't really understand why Windows users should > install their dictiona

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-05 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: We don't use aspell.exe. We link aspell.lib statically into lyx.exe. It's perfectly possible to install (and use) the dictionaries without installing aspell.exe. Then I don't really understand why Windows users should install their dictionaries in C:\Aspell\lib\aspell-0.60

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Stephen Harris
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SH: I this packaging scheme adaptable? Angus: I don't think that it's any better than the 'official' aspell 0.5 installer at http://aspell.net/win32/files/testing/dictgen/setup.iss.in SH: The dict files went to C:\Aspell\data Angus: That's no lo

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Just to be certain I understand, given a directory, so: (..) Right? If that's the case then the command below would look in directory 'de' and output a file 'ls_de' containing all the files in 'de': ls de | sed 's/^/${COMMAND} "${DIRECTORY}/;s/$/"/' > ls_de Exactly what I

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > About dictionary uninstall: > In order to be able to uninstall a dictionary, you'll need to keep track > of all filenames of that dictionary. If your shell script can write some > temporary file that contains: > ${COMMAND} "${DIRECTORY}dicfile1" > ${CO

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Just thoughts, but I'm sure that they would be things that Kevin Atkinson would raise. (The plan is to submit this stuff to Kevin, right?) First of all they should be somewhere when LyX 1.4.0 is released. If you want to submit them for the official site that's fine. Abou

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SH: I this packaging scheme adaptable? I don't think that it's any better than the 'official' aspell 0.5 installer at http://aspell.net/win32/files/testing/dictgen/setup.iss.in > The dict files went to C:\Aspell\data That's no longer the case for aspe

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Angus Leeming wrote: > > Can't you script this step? If you can, then tell me how and I'll add it > > to the script. Unless, of course, you take this and run with it... > > Since your shell script already extracts the language code, it's indeed > a lot

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Stephen Harris wrote: SH: I this packaging scheme adaptable? The dict files went to C:\Aspell\data Regards, Stephen You really don't want to package 80 languages manually. Using Angus' shell script and my installer script all dictionaries will be downloaded, compiled and packaged with an ins

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Stephen Harris
Joost Verburg wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Try it out and supply me with the details of what you did and I'll write you a shell script to automate the process My idea is: PART 1 (SHELL SCRIPT) [snip instructions...] Now you end up with a large set of zip files in your output directory.

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Can't you script this step? If you can, then tell me how and I'll add it to the script. Unless, of course, you take this and run with it... Since your shell script already extracts the language code, it's indeed a lot easier to script everything. Attached you'll find the

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Try it out and supply me with the details of what you did and I'll write you a shell script to automate the process My idea is: PART 1 (SHELL SCRIPT) [snip instructions...] Now you end up with a large set of zip files in your output directory. You

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Angus Leeming wrote: Hi, Stephen. This problem with the path_prefix stuff should now be fixed. Perhaps you'd like to test it out? http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX137/lyx-1.3.7_win32_setup_v4.exe http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX140pre/lyx-1.4.0pre_win32_setup_v2.exe I'm sti

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: Try it out and supply me with the details of what you did and I'll write you a shell script to automate the process My idea is: PART 1 (SHELL SCRIPT) - * Extract the dictionary (say, aspell6-en-6.0-0.tar.bz2) in a separate directory (for example, aspe

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When LyX looks for sh, convert or other applications, it just looks > inside the PATH environment variable. Having set the PATH environment variable as appropriate, using the contents of the \path_prefix entry from lyxrc.defaults/preferences... > That

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: IIRC, it was a question of priorities. The path was hard-coded in Ruurd's original port and when I integrated his work into the official LyX sources I just used his code. It is certainly possible to set this path dynamically; we'd have an entry in lyxrc.defaults/preferences l

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus Leeming wrote: > > I'm not sure about concurrent LyX137 and LyX140 spellchecking > > without alternating or changing the name of the folder called C:\Aspell > > What is the reason of this hardcoded path? Although C is a common drive > letter,

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: I'm not sure about concurrent LyX137 and LyX140 spellchecking without alternating or changing the name of the folder called C:\Aspell What is the reason of this hardcoded path? Although C is a common drive letter, there are systems that do not use it or where people do not

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: However, before we release either flavour of LyX/Win compiled with aspell 0.6 to the wider world, we should ensure that people have access to the dictionaries. I.e., replace the dictionaries at http://aspell.net/win32/ with th

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > However, before we release either flavour of LyX/Win compiled with > > aspell 0.6 to the wider world, we should ensure that people have > > access to the dictionaries. I.e., replace the dictionaries at > > http://aspell.net/win32/ with their 0.6 equ

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Angus, I can confirm that on my side. I have always compiled 1.4cvs with aspell 0.6 and it worked fine so far. I confirm also Joost experience with the compilation of the dictionaries. Hi, Abdel. That's great news.

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This problem with the path_prefix stuff should now be fixed. > I think that might be 137_v3. Both of these files installed splendidly. > No more sh configure; I hope no improvements needed to be sacrificed. Great! > The dictionary doesn't seem too har

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello Angus, > I can confirm that on my side. I have always compiled 1.4cvs with aspell > 0.6 and it worked fine so far. I confirm also Joost experience with the > compilation of the dictionaries. Hi, Abdel. That's great news. However, before we

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Stephen Harris
Angus wrote: Hi, Stephen. This problem with the path_prefix stuff should now be fixed. Perhaps you'd like to test it out? http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX137/lyx-1.3.7_win32_setup_v4.exe http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX140pre/lyx-1.4.0pre_win32_setup_v2.exe I'm still mulling over

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-03 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus Leeming wrote: I'm still mulling over what to do with aspell. If we go for aspell 0.6 then it looks like I'll have to supply the dictionaries too. Would make Kevin Atkinson happy :) I just tested the new Aspell. Version

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Joost Verburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Angus Leeming wrote: > > I'm still mulling over what to do with aspell. If we go for aspell 0.6 > > then it looks like I'll have to supply the dictionaries too. Would make > > Kevin Atkinson happy :) > I just tested the new Aspell. Version 0.6 works fi

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Joost Verburg
Angus Leeming wrote: I'm still mulling over what to do with aspell. If we go for aspell 0.6 then it looks like I'll have to supply the dictionaries too. Would make Kevin Atkinson happy :) I just tested the new Aspell. Version 0.6 works fine and more recent dictionaries are available compared

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris wrote: Angus wrote: I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x version since the installer code is little different to the previous version. (The one real change being that I've removed all tests for Perl in the installer.) ---

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Angus Leeming wrote: Grab it from: http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX140pre/lyx-1.4.0pre_win32_setup_v1.exe I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x version since the installer code is little different to the previous version. (The one real change being that I

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Angus wrote: > I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x > version since the installer code is little different to the previous > version. (The one real change being that I've removed all tests for > Perl in the installer.)

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x > | version since the installer code is little different to the previous > | version. (The one real change being that I've removed all tests for > | Perl in the installer.) > Do

Re: LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Grab it from: | http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX140pre/lyx-1.4.0pre_win32_setup_v1.exe | | I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x | version since the installer code is little different to the previous | version. (The

LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-01 Thread Stephen Harris
Angus wrote: I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x version since the installer code is little different to the previous version. (The one real change being that I've removed all tests for Perl in the installer.) ---

LyX/Win 1.4.0

2006-03-01 Thread Angus Leeming
Grab it from: http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyX140pre/lyx-1.4.0pre_win32_setup_v1.exe I anticipate that the installer will have the same bugs as the 1.3.x version since the installer code is little different to the previous version. (The one real change being that I've removed all tests f