Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread John Levon
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 06:31:41PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Ok, another patch. This time without the controversial inset-toggle > stuff. Please apply. Applied. thanks, john

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread Michael Schmitt
John Levon wrote: The edit menu should be kept as short as possible since it's the second most commonly used after 'Insert'. In particular, the open/close insets stuff needs to go into the View menu. Hmmm... you are right. Though "Open/Close Inset" and "View DVI" do not have much in common.

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-22 Thread John Levon
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John, speak to us - we are awaiting your approval. The edit menu should be kept as short as possible since it's the second most commonly used after 'Insert'. In particular, the open/close insets stuff needs to go into the View men

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Schmitt wrote: > Please apply. done. Jürgen

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread John Levon
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John, speak to us - we are awaiting your approval. I just got off a long couple of flights from the US, I'm afraid you must wait a little longer until I can see properly :) john

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: This looks good to me, but I'll let John comment too. Just one thing: inset-toggle may not exist anymore, but we have two lfuns instead ... Wouldn't it make sense to add them to the menu? Indeed. The menus should cover all LyX features. I have created a new exte

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Jean-Marc, this is another attempt to correct the UI files Michael> and make them consistent. This time, I used ellipses (...) Michael> according to the KDE human interface guideline. Another text change that would be great i

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Jean-Marc, this is another attempt to correct the UI files Michael> and make them consistent. This time, I used ellipses (...) Michael> according to the KDE human interface guideline. This looks good to me, but I'll let John

[PATCH 1.4] user interface, 2nd try

2005-05-18 Thread Michael Schmitt
Jean-Marc, this is another attempt to correct the UI files and make them consistent. This time, I used ellipses (...) according to the KDE human interface guideline. Please check the patch and apply - or reply. Michael Index: ChangeLog

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Schmitt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: As far as I know, we do not ship a GNOME version of LyX. Therefore, it would be more interesting to know what is said in OSX, Win32 and KDE UI guides. I do not remember the specifics, but it seems to me that we are not too far. This it was the KDE UI guideline says: "

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Before, ellipses have been used in an inconsistent way; the Michael> ellipses neither followed the GNOME _nor_ Jean-Marc's rule! As far as I know, we do not ship a GNOME version of LyX. Therefore, it would be more interesting

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Before, ellipses have been used in an inconsistent way; the Michael> ellipses neither followed the GNOME _nor_ Jean-Marc's rule! Michael> How was I supposed to know? It seems I need to prepare seriously my defense. I do not

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > John Levon wrote: > > >Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the > >interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will > >bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) > > > John +

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > >Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the > >interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will > >bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) > > > > John + Michael = 2, Jean -

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Schmitt wrote: > That means we do not consider classic.ui as a serious alternative. Which > again raises the question why we have it at all... Because human beings aren't entirely logical. In fact, some of them hate change even when change is for the good. -- Angus

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Michael Schmitt
John Levon wrote: Unfortunately, I was over-ruled (by jmarc iirc) regarding the interpretation of this. In particular, in LyX ellipses mean "this will bring up a dialog". I abide by the judge's decision :) John + Michael = 2, Jean - Marc = 1. Hmmm, we have overruled him again :-) So your changes

Re: [PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 04:36:21PM +0200, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Please check the patch carefully (John L.?) and commit it. Regarding the > use of "...", please note the following excerpt from the GNOME human > interface guidelines: > > "Label the menu item with a trailing ellipsis ("...") o

[PATCH 1.4] user interface

2005-05-16 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hello, I have made some text changes to the UI files. Once again, the overall objective is consistency, consistency, consistency... Please check the patch carefully (John L.?) and commit it. Regarding the use of "...", please note the following excerpt from the GNOME human interface guidelines: