Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Stephan Witt wrote: > I know of IMAP, but it's not free when having a GMX account. I'm using it at > work. > Please, don't tell me google mail has IMAP for free - I don't want to give > away my > privacy to google. > My Opera Mail [1] has IMAP, too. :) They adop

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Vincent van Ravesteijn writes: >> Me? I'm using a mail client with builtin POP3 account access. >> I cannot see how procmail can improve my situation regarding multiple copies. > | Lars suggested to use some advanced client (procmail ?) to do the filtering. I only do duplicate msgid handling wit

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Peter Kümmel writes: | On 21.11.2011 23:11, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >>> I use thunderbird, and all I know now is that I have to somehow install >> locally >>> a duplicate filter. >>> >>> >> >> I use thunderbird as well. >> >> And I didn't install any filter. >> >> Maybe its the mailserver.

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Stephan Witt writes: | Am 21.11.2011 um 09:54 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > >> Stephan Witt writes: >> >> | Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: >>> Stephan Witt writes: | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > >> On 08/11/2011 22:10, Pete

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 22.11.2011 um 22:25 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > On 22/11/2011 07:39, Stephan Witt wrote: >> Am 21.11.2011 um 23:34 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: >> >>> Op 21 nov. 2011 23:17 schreef "Pavel Sanda" het volgende: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > No, because you're forcing your will on

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 21/11/2011 22:42, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 21.11.2011 11:46, Stephan Witt wrote: I use thunderbird, and all I know now is that I have to somehow install locally a duplicate filter. I guess the problem comes from gmx.net, same as Stephan actually... Abdel.

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 22/11/2011 07:39, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 21.11.2011 um 23:34 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 21 nov. 2011 23:17 schreef "Pavel Sanda" het volgende: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: No, because you're forcing your will onto others. While you are giving me the great opportunity to read you

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 21/11/2011 23:16, Pavel Sanda wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: No, because you're forcing your will onto others. If I want to reply to you, I don't want you to overrule me by sending my reply to the list. :) Vincent, you don't want to reply to me. you simply don't have email client (or a

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-22 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 21/11/2011 22:36, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 21.11.2011 08:51, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Actaully I would argue that he, and you. are the ones doing it wrong. Wrong? Why? I understand that it's not wise to force everybody to reply-to list. But if I decide to get the reply only once and g

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 22-11-2011 7:39, Stephan Witt schreef: Am 21.11.2011 um 23:34 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 21 nov. 2011 23:17 schreef "Pavel Sanda" het volgende: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: No, because you're forcing your will onto others. While you are giving me the great opportunity to read yo

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 21.11.2011 um 23:34 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: > > Op 21 nov. 2011 23:17 schreef "Pavel Sanda" het volgende: > > > > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > > No, because you're forcing your will onto others. While you are giving me the great opportunity to read your mails twice :) Especially

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Pavel Sanda
Raymond Lillard wrote: > Would you rather let someone find them all by themselves > and in the process waste a lot of their time on something > that is not a usage error on their part? > > Bugs need to be tracked and published. fortunately the server is so slow that most complaining users disappea

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2011-11-21 Thread Raymond Lillard
On 11/21/2011 03:13 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: i actually like your preference of git community model and we shall kill our bug tracker as soon as possible, it just sucks :) pavel Yes, good idea. Our software only looks bad if you tell someone there are over 1000 bugs in it. It become

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
> i actually like your preference of git community model and we shall kill our > bug tracker as soon as possible, it just sucks :) > > pavel Yes, good idea. Our software only looks bad if you tell someone there are over 1000 bugs in it. It becomes even worse if you tell him that noone cares about

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > So every poster to our lists must be subscribed to it and should follow the > list closely for quite some time to see whether someone answers his > question? of course not. but its very easy to distinguish newbie or once-a-year appearing dev and reply appropriately.

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> No, because you're forcing your will onto others. If I want to reply to >> you, I don't want you to overrule me by sending my reply to the list. > > :) > Vincent, you don't want to reply to me. you simply don't

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 21 nov. 2011 23:17 schreef "Pavel Sanda" het volgende: > > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > No, because you're forcing your will onto others. If I want to reply to > > you, I don't want you to overrule me by sending my reply to the list. > > :) > Vincent, you don't want to reply to me. you sim

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 21.11.2011 23:11, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: I use thunderbird, and all I know now is that I have to somehow install locally a duplicate filter. I use thunderbird as well. And I didn't install any filter. And I tought I missed something. My current workflow is: - click reply -

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 21.11.2011 23:11, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: I use thunderbird, and all I know now is that I have to somehow install locally a duplicate filter. I use thunderbird as well. And I didn't install any filter. Maybe its the mailserver. I use gmail (lyx.org) and previously the email of wo

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Pavel Sanda
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > No, because you're forcing your will onto others. If I want to reply to > you, I don't want you to overrule me by sending my reply to the list. :) Vincent, you don't want to reply to me. you simply don't have email client (or at least at the time we flamed about it

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
> I use thunderbird, and all I know now is that I have to somehow install locally > a duplicate filter. > > I use thunderbird as well. And I didn't install any filter. Maybe its the mailserver. I use gmail (lyx.org) and previously the email of work. Never saw any duplication? Maybe you can try

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 21.11.2011 11:46, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 21.11.2011 um 09:54 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: Stephan Witt writes: | Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: Stephan Witt writes: | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: On

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 21.11.2011 08:28, Stephan Witt wrote: Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: Stephan Witt writes: | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümm

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 21.11.2011 08:51, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Actaully I would argue that he, and you. are the ones doing it wrong. Wrong? Why? I understand that it's not wise to force everybody to reply-to list. But if I decide to get the reply only once and get it from the list... what's wrong with s

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 21.11.2011 um 09:54 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > Stephan Witt writes: > > | Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: >> >>> Stephan Witt writes: >>> >>> | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: >> On 08.11.201

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Stephan Witt writes: | Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > >> Stephan Witt writes: >> >> | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: >>> On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: > On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> Op 8-11-2011 22:03, P

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-20 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Actaully I would argue that he, and you. are the ones doing it wrong. Wrong? Why? I understand that it's not wise to force everybody to reply-to list. But if I decide to get the reply only once and get it from the list... what's wrong with sending my 2cent emails to list and set the reply-to

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.11.2011 um 23:16 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > Stephan Witt writes: > > | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: >> >>> On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: >> On 08

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-20 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Stephan Witt writes: | Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > >> On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: >>> On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: > On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> Op 8-11-2011

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-20 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Peter Kümmel writes: | On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: >>> On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: > Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? >>>

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-10 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 10.11.2011 20:35, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 09.11.2011 11:41, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: I don't understand what the problem is of "reply all". I got your email twice, that's the problem. You can do something about it yourself. I don't understand. How could I prevent you to send me a

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-10 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 09.11.2011 11:41, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: I don't understand what the problem is of "reply all". I got your email twice, that's the problem. You can do something about it yourself. I don't understand. How could I prevent you to send me a private email? Read this again: To pre

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-09 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 9-11-2011 9:20, Peter Kuemmel schreef: Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 23:04:43 +0100 Von: Pavel Sanda An: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Betreff: Re: \'Reply\' sends to list. Peter Kümmel wrote: You can do something about it yourself. I don't understa

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-09 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
I don't understand what the problem is of "reply all". I got your email twice, that's the problem. You can do something about it yourself. I don't understand. How could I prevent you to send me a private email? Read this again: To prevent duplication you either send to the list from the

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-09 Thread Peter Kuemmel
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 23:04:43 +0100 > Von: Pavel Sanda > An: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org > Betreff: Re: \'Reply\' sends to list. > Peter Kümmel wrote: > >> You can do something about it yourself. > > > > I don

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread PhilipPirrip
On 11/08/2011 11:29 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: and btw its worth to check your email client documentation. it might have function for reply-to-list, which just picks-up the correct To: for the mailing list you read without manual editing addresses + Peter, I'd also consider using news server that

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 11:04:43PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Peter Kümmel wrote: > >> You can do something about it yourself. > > > > I don't understand. How could I prevent you to send me a private email? > > i lost my battle for this long time ago :) > functional solution is to set in header o

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > I have to edit most of the to addresses of my replies and my reply to field > too. and btw its worth to check your email client documentation. it might have function for reply-to-list, which just picks-up the correct To: for the mailing list you read without manual editing a

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote: > in mutt just use: folder-hook lyx-mail-folder my_hdr Reply-To: > your_addr...@lyx.org errr... folder-hook lyx-mail-folder my_hdr Reply-To: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org p

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > I have to edit most of the to addresses of my replies and my reply to field > too. > AFAICS, only Pavel is one of the rare people sending mails with the "correct" > reply to. unfortunately no. not correct, its highly unusual to rewrite reply-to. but since i was not able to

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Peter Kümmel wrote: >> You can do something about it yourself. > > I don't understand. How could I prevent you to send me a private email? i lost my battle for this long time ago :) functional solution is to set in header of outgoing messages: Reply-To: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org its not correct, a

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 08.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: >> On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >>> Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: >

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 08/11/2011 22:10, Peter Kümmel wrote: On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list?

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 08.11.2011 22:07, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 8-11-2011 22:03, Peter Kümmel schreef: On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply all" which only produces unneeded duplicates. Pete

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 08.11.2011 21:59, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply all" which only produces unneeded duplicates. Peter I don't understand what the problem is

Re: 'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 8-11-2011 21:48, Peter Kümmel schreef: Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply all" which only produces unneeded duplicates. Peter I don't understand what the problem is of "reply all". To prevent duplication you either s

'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Peter Kümmel
Send it again, just demonstrate all subscribers how 'useful' these duplicates are. -- Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply all" which only produces unneeded duplicates. Peter

'Reply' sends to list.

2011-11-08 Thread Peter Kümmel
Is it still necessary to disable the reply function for this list? Most people are now used to press "reply all" which only produces unneeded duplicates. Peter