Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the a

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a "show summary/notes" toggle in the out

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Pavel Sanda wrote: Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Pavel Sanda writes: | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Sure if a change is wanted we will go the full 10 yards... but why unwilling to gain experience by testing with git-svn first? Oh, I already use an like git. But I am affraid mos

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section > paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. > Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a "show summary/notes" toggle in the outliner instead. Günter

Re: Lyx + Boost and gcc 4.4

2009-03-05 Thread Peter Kümmel
Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes schreef: Andre Poenitz writes: | On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:20:34AM +0100, Peter Kümmel wrote: I think I'll just go and hide beneath my rock again ;-) Maybe you are interested in replacing boost with 'real' C++: TR1. | I tr

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > >> | No, AFAIK you can clone a git repo with 'git clone' and then use > >> | git-svn for the rest. I use Pavel's LyX repo for history and blaming > >> | with qgit and that's very very good compared to 'svn log' and 'svn > >> | blame', even more important, that's fast, i

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > Pavel Sanda writes: > > | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>> Sure if a change is wanted we will go the full 10 yards... but why > >>> unwilling to gain experience by testing with git-svn first? > >>> > >> > >> Oh, I already use an like git. But I am affraid most develo

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the abstract a layout ? Why do we ha

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
rgheck writes: > You could do that, but the problem with that kind of solution, as I > see it, is that you then have to keep the note insets in the right > place. This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an > inset. It's a layout feature. But it is a _note_. And if it makes se

Re: Lyx + Boost and gcc 4.4

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Vincent van Ravesteijn writes: > Wasn't this the thingie that made me complain that Visual Studio C++ > 2008 Express Edition wouldn't compile anymore ? Yes, probably. JMarc

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: > | - cannot import bugzilla database to tracker > > I'd love to get rid of bugzilla anyway... it is a superhassle to > upgrade... I want to get rid of bugzilla too, but I do not want to lose my precious bugs. I got accustomed to them, you see? > |

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread rgheck
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: rgheck writes: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to implement after LyX's

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
rgheck writes: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. >> As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as >> specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to >> implement after LyX's file format switched to XM

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Bo Peng
> | and there is a good question why should we migrate after all. while i enjoy > | git i see drawbacks from such switching too... > > Please name them. subversion is considerably simpler than git if we do not use branches that often. Having a revision number (I know where to find revision 21007),

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng writes: >> | Why do you prefer sf.net to other forges, actually? > | Like many other hot issues, I think no consensus will be reached by | emails, but real actions will prevail. If you like a host site, please | go ahead and start migration. I do not think it will hurt lyx in any | way if

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >>> Sure if a change is wanted we will go the full 10 yards... but why >>> unwilling to gain experience by testing with git-svn first? >>> >> >> Oh, I already use an like git. But I am affraid most developpers won't use >> it if svn is still avai

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> Abdelrazak Younes writes: >> >> [...] >> | No, AFAIK you can clone a git repo with 'git clone' and then use >> | git-svn for the rest. I use Pavel's LyX repo for history and blaming >> | with qgit and that's very very good compared to 'sv

Re: Lyx + Boost and gcc 4.4

2009-03-05 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Lars Gullik Bjønnes schreef: Andre Poenitz writes: | On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 08:20:34AM +0100, Peter Kümmel wrote: I think I'll just go and hide beneath my rock again ;-) Maybe you are interested in replacing boost with 'real' C++: TR1. | I tried replacing our boost::share

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> Sure if a change is wanted we will go the full 10 yards... but why >> unwilling to gain experience by testing with git-svn first? >> > > Oh, I already use an like git. But I am affraid most developpers won't use > it if svn is still available. and there is a good qu

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Bo Peng
> | Why do you prefer sf.net to other forges, actually? Like many other hot issues, I think no consensus will be reached by emails, but real actions will prevail. If you like a host site, please go ahead and start migration. I do not think it will hurt lyx in any way if we register lyx on a few we

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes writes: [...] | No, AFAIK you can clone a git repo with 'git clone' and then use | git-svn for the rest. I use Pavel's LyX repo for history and blaming | with qgit and that's very very good compared to 'svn log' and 'svn | blame', even more important

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: [...] | No, AFAIK you can clone a git repo with 'git clone' and then use | git-svn for the rest. I use Pavel's LyX repo for history and blaming | with qgit and that's very very good compared to 'svn log' and 'svn | blame', even more important, that's fast, incredibly fas

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: >> What do you mean by "get all our data back"? I do not quite understand >> how that can be a problem > | Have access to our raw svn/git data to host it else where (but this is | probably moot with git). Have access t

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Pavel Sanda writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: If there are interest I'll try to setup a git tree that you can clone and set up as a git-svn tree. (I'll even write up a wiki page to explain briefly how to do that.) | this is already done on git.or.c

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread rgheck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to implement after LyX's file format switched to XML, something that is planne

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:56:06AM +, Guenter Milde wrote: Hi, > My favourite is berlios.de, an advertisement-free, clean open-source > forge with bug-tracking, GIT and other tools (see > http://developer.berlios.de/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26&group_id=2 > for details). AFAIK Joerg Schil

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:10:53AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: Hi, > In this respect, I'd favor hosting from free software projects like > alioth (debian), launchpad (ubuntu,although this is a company) or > savannah (GNU). Alioth is strictly Debian only so

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:22:58AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Hi, > | I need to upgrade that server to Centos 5.2, but once that's done > > You are aware that Centos 5.3 will be out in a couple of weeks? In almost all cases that will be a rather smooth upgrade. I've some RHEL 5 here

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rob Oakes wrote: > http://www.oak-tree.us/stuff/LyX-Proposal.pdf Thanks, this is a an interesting paper. I think that your proposal is overall compatible with LyX's approach, and I think LyX could be extended to support at least many of your ideas. The actual question now is: how to implement t

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-04, Peter Kümmel wrote: > Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> Bo Peng writes: The bug database might be a problem... >> | I know that many people dislike sourceforge but sourceforge supports >> | pmwiki (our web), trac, and some project and bug tracking systems... >> | http://apps.sour

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

2009-03-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Rob Oakes wrote: Dear Jürgen and other LyX Developers, Thank you very much for the kind welcome. Pursuant to your advice, I have gone through and tried to develop my thoughts on a few features that I would be excited to develop and add to LyX. Because of dummy-layouts and a few other graphi

RE: Non-developer patches

2009-03-05 Thread Roland Clobus
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > What do you think of sourceforge, BTW? I'm not using many features, only the svn repository, the release system and a simple webpage. The Pioneers project originally used cvs and SourceForge provided a simple transfer to Subversion. When issues arose (the project

Re: Non-developer patches

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Roland Clobus" writes: > Non-developers are able to create a new item in the patches section, > and add a comment to the bug or feature request which points to the > patch. (This is how users contribute to the project Pioneers (pio)) Thanks for the information, Roland. What do you think of sourc

Non-developer patches (Was: RE: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-05 Thread Roland Clobus
Thursday 5 March 2009, 11:06 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I took a look at sf.net and problems _may_ be: ... > - non developers cannot attach patches/files to bugs > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=21&aid=2568036&gro > up_id=1)! Non-developers are able to create a new item i

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: > What do you mean by "get all our data back"? I do not quite understand > how that can be a problem Have access to our raw svn/git data to host it else where (but this is probably moot with git). Have access to our bug database data to do whatever w

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: >> What we need to look at is the possibility to get all our data back if >> we want to leave. Whasn't that a problem with sf.net? > | In this respect, I'd favor hosting from free software projects like | alioth (debian), launchpad (ubu

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | Peter Kümmel writes: >> What about a 'evaluation'? Possible candidates are: >> >> ww.sf.net >> www.assembla.com >> github.com >> repo.or.cz > | savannah, launchpad, tigris, or more generally | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilit

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: > What we need to look at is the possibility to get all our data back if > we want to leave. Whasn't that a problem with sf.net? In this respect, I'd favor hosting from free software projects like alioth (debian), launchpad (ubuntu,although this is a company) or savan

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Peter Kümmel writes: > What about a 'evaluation'? Possible candidates are: > > ww.sf.net > www.assembla.com > github.com > repo.or.cz savannah, launchpad, tigris, or more generally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilities What we need to look at is the possibil

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lar...@lyx.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: > I'd like you to name some... I only know of a few and as of current they > seem to be of very little importance. I belive the benefit of not having > to handle the daily (or yearly) churn of chores is a really good thing. Setting up automatic generati

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: >> >> If there are interest I'll try to setup a git tree that you can clone and >> >> set >> >> up as a git-svn tree. (I'll even write up a wiki page to explain briefly >> >> how >> >> to do that.) >> > >> | this is already done on git.or.cz, th