Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] Windows XP support period

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
See inline /Nio On 2013-06-24 05:48, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Ali, > > On 06/23/2013 03:31 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > >> For how many years now, a Windows XP Users has been using XP? > > Potentially since 2002 (technically, since 31 Dec 2001). So up to 10.5 > years. > >> Do they really

[Lubuntu-qa] Windows XP support period (was: Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you: )

2013-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Ali, On 06/23/2013 03:31 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > For how many years now, a Windows XP Users has been using XP? Potentially since 2002 (technically, since 31 Dec 2001). So up to 10.5 years. > Do they really update it? Yes, usually automatically via Windows Update. You can use Windows

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread keith
On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:25 PM, James King wrote: The messages are in slightly different order on my system, but the last two are exactly as it is on your system. Tomorrow morning I'll send you a photo or video of my screen if you need it. Is there anyway to recover a boot log from the CD se

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
I agree, Jackson, If 'the customer' wants it in March, we can do the best of that situation. And your idea of a special edition sounds good to me. It certainly means some extra testing, but it is a great opportunity. Nio On 2013-06-24 00:24, Jackson Doak wrote: > I still think it's worth gettin

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread keith
@James I tried the 6/23 Live iso today on my Powermac MDD and it failed in the same way as the 6/22 Live iso I reported earlier. I used the boot parameters: live-nosplash-powerpc snd-powermac.blacklist=yes The last message on the screen before the boot process hangs is: Waiting for network

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Joern
If you need any translations into german for this project, feel free to ask as it is my native language. Am 24.06.2013 um 00:37 schrieb "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" : > Hi again, > > I have not read that on the news/post/link. I did not understand your first > email, hence my emails. I'm sorry but al

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Bug on installing from 'try without installing'

2013-06-23 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > On 2013-06-23 16:06, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know you've all been concentrating on the 'how low can we go' with > > ZRam, but it does seem there is a bug in the 'try without installing' > > install > > method. https://bugs.lau

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi again, I have not read that on the news/post/link. I did not understand your first email, hence my emails. I'm sorry but all in all, this discussion was helpful so at least, everyone know what we are up to :) Enough to remain silent about Start Ubuntu Project as a project that must be a Priori

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hello Ben, Let me put it this way. For how many years now, a Windows XP Users has been using XP? Do they really update it? Do you know how many users of XP are using a Pirate Version on the whole world? count me as former one ;) When suddenly, they will see the light. When suddenly, they will sta

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ali, they plan to release the CD's in March, doing so means they will be using 13.10. In April (one month later) 14.04 LTS is released and any users of 13.10 will be prompted to upgrade. Those who choose not to will have support dropped in July. As I have stated a couple of times, it seems pointle

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread John Kim
+1 Although the LTS was meant to last, at least Linux is out in the open for distribution. John Phill Whiteside wrote: >Yes, > >I have a Q by all means promote lubuntu as an XP replacement... but >the >release of such a replacement will be the 14.04 LTS. As desktop >releases >only have

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Jackson Doak
I still think it's worth getting an early release of 14.04 or a late release of saucy, but anything will work. We could always aim for an early (~beta1/14.02) release of 14.04 that will auto-update to 14.04. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Phill, > > Problem is, we

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Phill, Problem is, we are talking apples and oranges here. I have never stated that Lubuntu 13.10 will be 'the replacement' for Windows XP :) I have stated, I'm stating, and will state that Lubuntu, is the best replacement for Windows XP. Please, if that is not clear, by all means, I'm more than

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Ben Parrish
I see their adoption as a great step forward in Lubuntu. The only issue with them adopting the current version could be bad publicity of their launch doesn't go well, especially if support is dropped after 9 months. The advantage to waiting for a LTS, would be stability, and less of a risk of leav

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
Yes, I have a Q by all means promote lubuntu as an XP replacement... but the release of such a replacement will be the 14.04 LTS. As desktop releases only have 9 months support, are you seriously going to argue that 13.10 is a replacement and in 9 months time all support will be dropped? If th

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Phill, With all due respect to your personal opinion, I do disagree with you :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu I have created this project months ago. I was NOT planning to hold anything back. As a respect to the decision to wait, that was because this

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] Fwd: [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
This is great :-) Nio On 2013-06-23 23:28, Phill Whiteside wrote: > This is pretty awesome news for lubuntu! > > @ Ali and others who I asked to hold back on our shouting out that > lubuntu should wait for 13.10, I apologise! Sadly it is planned from > March, I do think we should get in touch wit

[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:

2013-06-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
This is pretty awesome news for lubuntu! @ Ali and others who I asked to hold back on our shouting out that lubuntu should wait for 13.10, I apologise! Sadly it is planned from March, I do think we should get in touch with them and ask that it coincide with our 1st LTS which is April. @ Jono, can

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/23/2013 01:21 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > So to have a high success rate you recommend > > 1. Wipe the target drive before starting the installation. > 2. Boot from CD > 3. Try Lubuntu from the desktop iso > 4. Install Lubuntu from the alternate iso or the mini iso. Well, sort of. In practic

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-23 21:17, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > I wrote: > >>> I wish we had better luck at 256MB on real hardware with the >>> desktop image. I'm not really sure why it works so well down even >>> below 224MB on VirtualBox, but apparently not on real machines. > > On 06/23/2013 01:46 AM, Nio W

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread James King
Back to the original topic of the email, I just downloaded the 06/23 PPC isos (both desktop and alternate). The desktop hung on me the same as on 06/21 and 06/22. I put my 1GB chip back into my system thinking that having only 256MB RAM might be the problem, but it still hangs with 1GB RAM. Usuall

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Keith and James, On 06/23/2013 05:12 AM, ke...@refaceplace.net wrote: > Don't worry about dragging the team down. As far as I can tell, the PPC > testing team is very small. All help is appreciated. +1 (or +100)! Anyone with a PPC machine who is willing to help test Lubuntu on it is *very* valu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I wrote: >> I wish we had better luck at 256MB on real hardware with the >> desktop image. I'm not really sure why it works so well down even >> below 224MB on VirtualBox, but apparently not on real machines. On 06/23/2013 01:46 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Well, when carefully prepared, the desk

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread James King
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:52 PM, wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > > On 06/23/2013 03:12 PM, ke...@refaceplace.net wrote: >> >>> Once you learn how to do it, it's very easy and faster than using a cd >>> drive. At least it seems faster to me. And, if you start testin

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Keith, Whilst we cannot keep the daily builds guaranteed to be CD sized, at each testing version they should be. Please do comment up on the mailing list if they are not. Regards, Phill. On 23 June 2013 17:52, wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > > On 06/23/2013 0

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread keith
On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: On 06/23/2013 03:12 PM, ke...@refaceplace.net wrote: Once you learn how to do it, it's very easy and faster than using a cd drive. At least it seems faster to me. And, if you start testing allot, it saves money on blank cds. Maybe I'm just c

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Bug on installing from 'try without installing'

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-23 16:06, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > I know you've all been concentrating on the 'how low can we go' with > ZRam, but it does seem there is a bug in the 'try without installing' > install > method. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1193526 > can someone check

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/23/2013 03:12 PM, ke...@refaceplace.net wrote: > Once you learn how to do it, it's very easy and faster than using a cd > drive. At least it seems faster to me. And, if you start testing allot, > it saves money on blank cds. Maybe I'm just cheap? :) You should be able to get a DVD RW to las

[Lubuntu-qa] Bug on installing from 'try without installing'

2013-06-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, I know you've all been concentrating on the 'how low can we go' with ZRam, but it does seem there is a bug in the 'try without installing' install method. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1193526 can someone check it out and add to 'affects lubuntu' also. Thanks, Phill

[Lubuntu-qa] [PPC] Saucy Daily Build for 6/21 hangs on Plymouth Text Screen

2013-06-23 Thread keith
On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:27 PM, James King wrote: Thanks Keith, I'll try that, although I still think a lot of Mac users will use CDs to install because that's what they're used to. I'm doing the walkthroughs in the qa-testing to try to get a better feel for how to do all of this. It's more o

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-23 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-23 07:39, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On 06/22/2013 02:43 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> On 2013-06-22 15:37, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > >>> I think Phase 1 of testing is done. ... > >>> So, what is next? > > Testing zRAM on Alternate installs, once it is enabled in them :) > >> I add