Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Olof Johansson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:00:12PM -0600, Josh Boyer wrote: > So if mkimage is going to be put in-kernel, I'd rather it be in a more > generic place. Arguably, dtc should go there as well seeing as how > microblaze could probably use it too. Well, kconfig is in scripts/ in spite of not being a s

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:26:25 -0600 Josh Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:22:46 +1100 > Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Josh Boyer writes: > > > > > Using that same reasoning, should we merge a mkimage patch for the > > > boards that use U-Boot? > > > > I t

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:22:46 +1100 Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh Boyer writes: > > > Using that same reasoning, should we merge a mkimage patch for the > > boards that use U-Boot? > > I think so. It's fairly small and it would mean that people could > cross-compile all the def

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Paul Mackerras
Josh Boyer writes: > Using that same reasoning, should we merge a mkimage patch for the > boards that use U-Boot? I think so. It's fairly small and it would mean that people could cross-compile all the defconfigs easily. Paul. ___ Linuxppc-dev mailing

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:54:38 + David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:33 +, David Woodhouse wrote: > > Make vmlinux the default target instead of zImage would seem like a > > better answer. I'm surprised that it isn't like that already, in fact -- > > and

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Paul Mackerras
David Woodhouse writes: > Make vmlinux the default target instead of zImage would seem like a > better answer. I'm surprised that it isn't like that already, in fact -- > and I'm only inferring that it isn't from your message. I always thought > that if I typed 'make' I got the vmlinux and not a z

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:33 +, David Woodhouse wrote: > Make vmlinux the default target instead of zImage would seem like a > better answer. I'm surprised that it isn't like that already, in fact -- > and I'm only inferring that it isn't from your message. I always thought > that if I typed 'm

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:21:21 +1100 Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Woodhouse writes: > > > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. > > The trouble is that it's not just people who are making a kernel f

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 09:21 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote: > David Woodhouse writes: > > > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. > > The trouble is that it's not just people who are making a kernel for a > specific embe

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Paul Mackerras
David Woodhouse writes: > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. The trouble is that it's not just people who are making a kernel for a specific embedded board that need dtc. These days anyone who wants to try cross-com

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread David Gibson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:04:53AM -0600, Kumar Gala wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:25:57 -0600 > > Jon Loeliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> So, like, the other day David Woodhouse mumbled: > >>> > >>> I think this is a bad idea -- it

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Scott Wood
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 07:25:57AM -0600, Jon Loeliger wrote: > So, like, the other day David Woodhouse mumbled: > > > > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. > > > > We shouldn't be merging _more_ stuff in. > > Than

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 14:10 +1100, David Gibson wrote: > We've been back and forth on this several times, Paul and I finally > concluded this was the better option. As long as I can just ignore it and use the separately-shipped dtc, I suppose it doesn't have to bother me too much. > It means we c

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Kumar Gala
On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:25:57 -0600 > Jon Loeliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So, like, the other day David Woodhouse mumbled: >>> >>> I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those >>> people >>> who _do_ need dts to obtain i

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:25:57 -0600 Jon Loeliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, like, the other day David Woodhouse mumbled: > > > > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. > > > > We shouldn't be merging _more_ stuff

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-04 Thread Jon Loeliger
So, like, the other day David Woodhouse mumbled: > > I think this is a bad idea -- it's hardly a difficult for those people > who _do_ need dts to obtain it separately. > > We shouldn't be merging _more_ stuff in. Thanks for chiming in here, David W. As far as I can tell so far, the only two pe

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-03 Thread David Gibson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:59:04AM +, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:02 +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > > longer an external dependency to

Re: Merge dtc

2007-12-03 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:02 +1000, David Gibson wrote: > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > longer an external dependency to build kernels with configurations > which need a dtb file. > > Signed-off

Re: Merge dtc

2007-11-08 Thread Jon Loeliger
David Gibson wrote: > > Ok. I'll use this version in my next spin; except for adding one > dependency you missed, and removing one which should never have been > there (unneccessary #include, which I've already fixed in dtc > upstream). > I think if we embed the DTC in the kernel tree, we shoul

Re: Merge dtc

2007-11-07 Thread David Gibson
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 08:42:49PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > Hi David. > > > > Give me a day or two then I shall give it a try and see what I can > > > do about it. I will use the previsous posted URL as basis if you do > > > not tell me otherwise. > > > > Thank you. The previous URL should

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-19 Thread Sam Ravnborg
Hi David. > > Give me a day or two then I shall give it a try and see what I can > > do about it. I will use the previsous posted URL as basis if you do > > not tell me otherwise. > > Thank you. The previous URL should be fine, I've made no changes > since then. I decided to go for a kbuild sp

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-19 Thread David Gibson
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:07:18AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > > Compared to the behemoth that is Kbuild... > > > > I'm happy to improve the Makefile integration, but you seem to be > > rather vague on how, and the Kbuild documentation makes my brain hurt. > > I can make an ALL UPPERCASE VERSION

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-19 Thread Sam Ravnborg
> Compared to the behemoth that is Kbuild... > > I'm happy to improve the Makefile integration, but you seem to be > rather vague on how, and the Kbuild documentation makes my brain hurt. I can make an ALL UPPERCASE VERSION if that makes it easier for you to read ;-) Give me a day or two then I s

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-19 Thread David Gibson
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:56:41AM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: > On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:45 PM, David Gibson wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:59:26PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: > >>> On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread Milton Miller
On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:45 PM, David Gibson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:59:26PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: >>> On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: >>> This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread Milton Miller
On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:30 PM, David Gibson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: >> On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: >>> Too big for the list, full patch at >>> http://ozlabs.org/~dgibson/home/merge-dtc.patch+ >> >> So split it up. The obviou

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread David Gibson
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:59:26PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: > > On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: > > > > >This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > >source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-sr

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread David Gibson
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: > On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: > > > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > > longer an external dependency to bui

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Milton Miller wrote: > On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: > > >This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > >source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > >longer an external dependency to build

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-18 Thread Milton Miller
On Tue Oct 16 15:02:17 EST 2007, David Gibson wrote: > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > longer an external dependency to build kernels with configurations > which need a dtb file. > > Signed-off-by

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Jon Loeliger
So, like, the other day Linas Vepstas mumbled: > > Isn't anyone concerned about the defacto fork-of-source-code that > this causes? You betcha. That's why I'm negative on the notion, but I won't stand in front of _that_ train either. > Which will be the official version? The one I am maintain

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:59:04PM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote: > Kumar Gala wrote: > > > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage for > > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. > > I think we should include mkimage *and* dtc. But then, I'm no

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Grant Likely
On 10/17/07, Josh Boyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:59:04 -0500 > Timur Tabi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kumar Gala wrote: > > > > > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage for > > > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related t

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:59:04 -0500 Timur Tabi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kumar Gala wrote: > > > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage for > > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. > > I think we should include mkimage *and* dtc. Bu

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Timur Tabi
Kumar Gala wrote: > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage for > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. I think we should include mkimage *and* dtc. But then, I'm not sure how much weight my opinion has. :-) -- Timur Tabi Linux Kernel

RE: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Stephen Neuendorffer
> -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > g > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] zlabs.org] On Behalf Of Grant Likely > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:15 AM > To: Grant Likely; Paul Mackerras; Josh Boyer; linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > Subject: Re: Merge dtc

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-17 Thread Grant Likely
On 10/16/07, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:17:01AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote: > > On 10/15/07, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This mean

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-16 Thread David Gibson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:17:01AM -0600, Grant Likely wrote: > On 10/15/07, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > > longer an external dependency to build k

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-16 Thread Kumar Gala
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Grant Likely wrote: > On 10/15/07, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel >> source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no >> longer an external dependency to build kernels with co

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-16 Thread Grant Likely
On 10/15/07, David Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > longer an external dependency to build kernels with configurations > which need a dtb file. Powerpc is probab

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 16:01 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:50 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote: > > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage > > for > > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. > > It's a pain in the ne

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Kumar Gala
On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >> You must have missed the thread where various people where >> complaining >> about how powerpc is the only architecture where they can't build >> kernels without some external tool that they don't have, etc., etc. >> >> We thought

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Kumar Gala
On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:50 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote: >> Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage >> for >> u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. > > It's a pain in the neck since

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:50 -0500, Kumar Gala wrote: > Just out of interest who's complaining? We don't include mkimage > for > u-boot related builds and I haven't seen any gripes related to that. It's a pain in the neck since those are built even for things that don't need them (such as 4xx w

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> You must have missed the thread where various people where complaining > about how powerpc is the only architecture where they can't build > kernels without some external tool that they don't have, etc., etc. > > We thought about shipping compiled DTBs for various platforms, but the > problem t

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Kumar Gala
On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote: > Kumar Gala writes: > >> Dare I ask why we are including dtc in the kernel source tree? We >> don't really have precedence for this and there are users outside of >> linux for dtc. > > You must have missed the thread where various people where

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Paul Mackerras
Kumar Gala writes: > Dare I ask why we are including dtc in the kernel source tree? We > don't really have precedence for this and there are users outside of > linux for dtc. You must have missed the thread where various people where complaining about how powerpc is the only architecture whe

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread David Gibson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:08:06AM -0500, Kumar Gala wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:02 AM, David Gibson wrote: > > > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > > longer an external dependency to build

Re: Merge dtc

2007-10-15 Thread Kumar Gala
On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:02 AM, David Gibson wrote: > This very large patch incorporates a copy of dtc into the kernel > source, in arch/powerpc/boot/dtc-src. This means that dtc is no > longer an external dependency to build kernels with configurations > which need a dtb file. > > Signed-off-by: