Re: Linux 2.4.0-test8 and swap/journaling fs on raid

2000-09-29 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Neil Brown wrote: > On Friday September 29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > > Are you sure there are no deadlock-when-low-on-memory bugs > > > hiding somewhere? swap over nbd also *seems* to work. > > > > Good that you mention th

Re: Linux 2.4.0-test8 and swap/journaling fs on raid

2000-09-29 Thread Neil Brown
On Friday September 29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Are you sure there are no deadlock-when-low-on-memory bugs > > hiding somewhere? swap over nbd also *seems* to work. Raid preallocates all the memory that it needs. When raid1 runs out of pre-alloca

Re: linux-2.4.0-test8-pre5

2000-09-11 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:21:36PM +0200, Dan Aloni wrote: > > Can someone explain this line from the VIA update? > > #define FIT(v,min,max) (((v)>(max)?(max):(v))<(min)?(min):(v)) > > Barring side effects on the variables, it is equivalent to > > #define FIT(v,min,max) ((v)<(min)?(min):(v))

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-09 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 08.09.00 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > useless. Care to provide better example? I can, BTW, but it's much more > convoluted and very rare. Furrfu... Which is exactly the point *I* am trying to make. The problems you need a debugger for are exactly the

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8

2000-09-08 Thread Jamie Lokier
Linus Torvalds wrote: > It's about the fact that when I chose the GPL, I did it because I wanted > the source-code to be free and unencumbered. Forever. Whether I maintained > that code or not. I didn't want my code to have any extra rules and > regulations - the GPLv2 is already quite complex eno

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8

2000-09-08 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > I think an appropriate concern. The future GPL is constrained by the GPLv2 > > clause 9 to be 'similar in spirit...'. You also dont ever have to take any > > code that specifies GPLv3 or later. > > Linus, nobody can ever force GPLv3 upon you. If y

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8

2000-09-08 Thread Jamie Lokier
Alan Cox wrote: > Every line of code I wrote is under the GPLv2 or later (except those bits > I contributed that were BSD non advertising derived and which I left the BSD > license on). By the way, the tiny amounts of code from me that are in there are GPLv2 or later too. (Do we need a copyrigh

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8

2000-09-08 Thread Alan Cox
> If anybody wants to explicitly state that their code will be valid under > any version of the GPL (current or future - whatever they may look like), > please send patches to say so for the code in question. If you've used the > FSF boiler-place copyright notice, you already have this in place (i

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-08 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, J. Dow wrote: > > obpainintheass: haven't you anti-debugger-religion folks been claiming > > that if you don't have a debugger you're forced to "think about the code > > to find the correct fix"? so, like, why are you guessing right now? :) > > dean, that is another man

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread J. Dow
> obpainintheass: haven't you anti-debugger-religion folks been claiming > that if you don't have a debugger you're forced to "think about the code > to find the correct fix"? so, like, why are you guessing right now? :) dean, that is another man behind the curtain we are supposed to ignore wh

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread Bill Wendling
Also sprach dean gaudet: } On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Bill Wendling wrote: } > Don't be stupid. } } dude, i gave at least three hints that i was joking up there. stupid } would be if i claimed that it was obvious that a debugger would have } helped this situation. instead all i'm claiming is that it's

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread dean gaudet
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Bill Wendling wrote: > Also sprach dean gaudet: > } On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > } > } > Yeah. Maybe we fixed truncate, and maybe we didn't. I've thought that we > } > fixed it now several times, and I was always wrong. > } > } obpainintheass: haven't you ant

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread Bill Wendling
Also sprach dean gaudet: } On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: } } > Yeah. Maybe we fixed truncate, and maybe we didn't. I've thought that we } > fixed it now several times, and I was always wrong. } } obpainintheass: haven't you anti-debugger-religion folks been claiming } that if you do

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread dean gaudet
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Yeah. Maybe we fixed truncate, and maybe we didn't. I've thought that we > fixed it now several times, and I was always wrong. obpainintheass: haven't you anti-debugger-religion folks been claiming that if you don't have a debugger you're forced to "t

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Linus Torvalds wrote: > Yeah. Maybe we fixed truncate, and maybe we didn't. I've thought that > we fixed it now several times, and I was always wrong. Time for some > reverse phychology: > > I'm sure this one doesn't fix the truncate bug either. So far things look really promising here. No ext2

Re: Linux-2.4.0-test8-pre6

2000-09-07 Thread Tim Waugh
Found another bug: On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:26:14PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > - pre6: > - trunate - the never-ending story. Makes me feel like a long ^ here :-) Tim. */ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message t

Re: linux-2.4.0-test8-pre5

2000-09-06 Thread Bill Wendling
Also sprach Dan Aloni: } On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: } } > Can someone explain this line from the VIA update? } > #define FIT(v,min,max) (((v)>(max)?(max):(v))<(min)?(min):(v)) } > Barring side effects on the variables, it is equivalent to } > #define FIT(v,min,max) ((v)<(min)?

Re: linux-2.4.0-test8-pre5

2000-09-06 Thread Dan Aloni
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > - VIA ide driver update (well, rewrite - the old one was buggy and broken) > > Can someone explain this line from the VIA update? > #define FIT(v,min,max) (((v)>(max)?(max):(v))<(min)?(min):(v)) > Barring side effects on the variables, it is e

Re: linux-2.4.0-test8-pre5

2000-09-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Linus] > - pre5 > - truncate. Guess what? We threw away the key to the clue-box. > - simplify signal notification. And remember the spinlock. > - VIA ide driver update (well, rewrite - the old one was buggy and broken) Can someone explain this line from the VIA update? #define F