Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-08 Thread Chris Wright
* Bill Davidsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>nfsd--svcrpc-add-a-per-flavor-set_client-method.patch > > > >is this critical? > > Wasn't part of the Linus proposal that it had to fix an oops or > non-functional feature? We're working on the criteria, should have some updates

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jeff Garzik wrote: Unless it's crashing for people, stack usage is IMO a wanted-fix not needed-fix. nfsd--svcrpc-add-a-per-flavor-set_client-method.patch is this critical? Wasn't part of the Linus proposal that it had to fix an oops or non-functional feature? -- -bill davidsen ([EMAIL PROT

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 17:18 +, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sad, 2005-03-05 at 22:06, Lee Revell wrote: > > Driver updates are a hard problem. Nothing annoys users more than > > unsupported hardware. But if you aggressively add support for new > > devices you can break things that have worked for age

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Sad, 2005-03-05 at 22:06, Lee Revell wrote: > Driver updates are a hard problem. Nothing annoys users more than > unsupported hardware. But if you aggressively add support for new > devices you can break things that have worked for ages. You can however plan for them in advance. Guess why the

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-06 Thread Randy.Dunlap
Shawn Starr wrote: Sure, I can do this. Wrt to trivial patches, will these patches that go into rusty's patch bot go into Linus's tree or into the -mm tree? The reason I ask that is because a trivial patch may fix an oops if there's an off-by-one problem and typically I'd submit that to the tr

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-06 Thread Shawn Starr
Sure, I can do this. Wrt to trivial patches, will these patches that go into rusty's patch bot go into Linus's tree or into the -mm tree? The reason I ask that is because a trivial patch may fix an oops if there's an off-by-one problem and typically I'd submit that to the trivial patch bot. T

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 01:16:10AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: > Sounds great, I can be a QA resource for what machines I have. > > How do people get involved in QAing these releases? Get the last release and test it out. If you have problems, and have simple/obvious patches, send them on. than

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Greg KH
; > > > > >Is this really a big deal? > > If you are pushing linux-release to Linus/Andrew rapidly, quick fixes > will land in linux-2.6 rapidly, and more invasive stuff will land only > in linux-2.6 when the invasive stuff is ready to go. It even takes the > pressure of

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 02:53:43AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:28:02PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:36:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > But we end up with a cset in the permanent kernel hist

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 March 2005 17:06, Lee Revell wrote: >On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 16:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> What he said! Perfectly good patches, which fix real problems >> would appear to be sitting in testing/broken_out till bit rot or >> ???. >> >> If you want a testers testimony, I'm running

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 16:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > What he said! Perfectly good patches, which fix real problems would > appear to be sitting in testing/broken_out till bit rot or ???. > > If you want a testers testimony, I'm running the bk-ieee1394.patch, > and all I can say at this poin

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 March 2005 16:17, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Russell King wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> > I love BK, but what BK does well is merging and maintaining >> > trees full of good stuff. What BK sucks at is experimental stuff >

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Russell King wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > I love BK, but what BK does well is merging and maintaining trees full of > > good stuff. What BK sucks at is experimental stuff where you don't know > > whether something should be e

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread L. A. Walsh
ltivec.uc|4 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) Summary of changes from v2.6.11 to v2.6.11.1 ======== Dmitry Torokhov: o Fix keyboards for Dell machines Greg Kroah-Hartman: o Linux 2.6.11.1 Olof Johansson: o Fix for trivial fix

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Randy.Dunlap
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote: Yup, BK could definitely handle that... However, it's also true that the thing BK is _worst_ at is cherry-picking things, and having a collection of stuff where somebody may end up vetoing one patch and saying "remove that one". So it

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote: Yup, BK could definitely handle that... However, it's also true that the thing BK is _worst_ at is cherry-picking things, and having a collection of stuff where somebody may end up vetoing one patch and saying "remove that one". In gen

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Russell King
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I love BK, but what BK does well is merging and maintaining trees full of > good stuff. What BK sucks at is experimental stuff where you don't know > whether something should be eventually used or not. Wait a minute - why would st

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > Yup, BK could definitely handle that... However, it's also true that the thing BK is _worst_ at is cherry-picking things, and having a collection of stuff where somebody may end up vetoing one patch and saying "remove that one". So it's entirely pos

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
Russell King wrote: On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:05:18PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: That tree has the not-for-linus raid6 fix and the not-for-linus i8042 fix. Then when the authors of those patches go to submit the fix to Linus, they can rever

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-05 Thread Russell King
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:05:18PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > That tree has the not-for-linus raid6 fix and the not-for-linus i8042 fix. > > Then when the authors of those patches go to submit the fix to Linus, > they can revert them,

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:28:02PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:36:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > But we end up with a cset in the permanent kernel history which simply > > > should not have been there. > >

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread James Bourne
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:51:13PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > > is this critical? > > > > Doubt it, unless the succeeding patches have a dependency on it. But the > > other patches have not been tested w

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Shawn Starr
Sounds great, I can be a QA resource for what machines I have. How do people get involved in QAing these releases? What other help? Shawn. > List: linux-kernel > Subject: Linux 2.6.11.1 > From: Greg KH > Date: 2005-03-04 17:53:02 > Message-ID: <2005

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 03:48:20PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 09:53 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > --- > > > > I've released the 2.6.11.1 patch: > > kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/v2.6.11/patch-2.6.11.1.gz > > > > With a detailed changelog at: >

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:15:37PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. I > > > was > > > planning on sending them in for 2.6.12 when that was going to be > > > errata-only. > > > > Ok,

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
Andrew Morton wrote: Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A few of us $suckers will be trying to maintain a 2.6.x.y set of releases that happen after 2.6.x is released. Just to test things out a bit... Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. I was planning on s

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:15:37PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. > > > > I was > > > > planning on sending them in for 2.6.12 when that

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:54:02PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:15:37PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2.

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:34:22PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > From a purely process point of view, my concern would be making sure > that everything that goes into 2.6.X.Y (e.g. 2.6.11.1) makes it into > 2.6.X+1 (e.g. 2.6.12). It will be so. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubsc

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:51:13PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > cramfs-small-stat2-fix.patch > > > setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve-oops-fix.patch > > > dv1394-ioctl-retval-fix.patch > > > ppc32-compilation-fixes-for-ebony-luan-and-ocotea.patch > > > n

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > cramfs-small-stat2-fix.patch > > setup_per_zone_lowmem_reserve-oops-fix.patch > > dv1394-ioctl-retval-fix.patch > > ppc32-compilation-fixes-for-ebony-luan-and-ocotea.patch > > nfsd--sgi-921857-find-broken-with-nohide-on-nfsv3.patch > > nfsd--exportfs-red

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > > > Ok, care to forward them on? > > > > Sure. How do they get to Linus? > > I'll just pull from the sucker-tree. > That tree has the not-for-linus raid6 fix and the not-for-linus i8042 fix.

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > Ok, care to forward them on? > > Sure. How do they get to Linus? I'll just pull from the sucker-tree. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:44:31PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > wrt the nfsd patches, Neil said: > > The problem they fix is that currently: > Client A holds a lock > Client B tries to get the lock and blocks > Client A drops the lock > **Client B doesn't get the lock immedi

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
rapidly, and more invasive stuff will land only in linux-2.6 when the invasive stuff is ready to go. It even takes the pressure off pushing invasive stuff ASAP. Have you pushed linux-2.6.11.1 upstream yet? :) Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
Andrew Morton wrote: Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. I was > planning on sending them in for 2.6.12 when that was going to be > errata-only. Ok, care to forward them on? Sure. How do they get to Linus? linux-release team sh

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:36:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > But we end up with a cset in the permanent kernel history which simply > > should not have been there. > > Is this really a big deal? Once? No. If it ends up being "par for the course", it's

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:36:14PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > But we end up with a cset in the permanent kernel history which simply > should not have been there. Is this really a big deal? thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ok, care to forward them on? > > > > > > > > Sure. How do th

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andries Brouwer
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:44:31PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. ... > nfsd--exportfs-reduce-stack-usage.patch ... Different people want different things with our 2.6.x.y. I would hope that criteria include (i) patch is obvious

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok, care to forward them on? > > > > > > Sure. How do they get to Linus? > > > > I'll just pull from the sucker-

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. I was > > planning on sending them in for 2.6.12 when that was going to be > > errata-only. > > Ok, care to forward them on? Sure. How do they get to Linus? > Hm, odds are the nfs

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Trond Myklebust
fr den 04.03.2005 Klokka 12:44 (-0800) skreiv Andrew Morton: > nfsd--sgi-921857-find-broken-with-nohide-on-nfsv3.patch > nfsd--exportfs-reduce-stack-usage.patch > nfsd--svcrpc-add-a-per-flavor-set_client-method.patch > nfsd--svcrpc-rename-pg_authenticate.patch > nfsd--svcrpc-move-export-table-chec

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:44:31PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A few of us $suckers will be trying to maintain a 2.6.x.y set of > > releases that happen after 2.6.x is released. > > Just to test things out a bit... > > Here's the list of things whi

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 12:53 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > See the comments above the part you snipped off, that stated the > infrastructure is still being worked on :) > Damn, I somehow missed that paragraph. Well, I've read the whole darn thread and still am getting work done. I guess I've overexte

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few of us $suckers will be trying to maintain a 2.6.x.y set of > releases that happen after 2.6.x is released. Just to test things out a bit... Here's the list of things which we might choose to put into 2.6.11.2. I was planning on sending them in f

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Ian Pilcher
From a purely process point of view, my concern would be making sure that everything that goes into 2.6.X.Y (e.g. 2.6.11.1) makes it into 2.6.X+1 (e.g. 2.6.12). -- Ian Pilcher[EMAIL PROT

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 09:53 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > --- > > I've released the 2.6.11.1 patch: > kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/v2.6.11/patch-2.6.11.1.gz > > With a detailed changelog at: > kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/v2.6.11/ChangeLog-2.6.11.1 >

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 08:28:58PM +0100, Paolo wrote: > Out of curiosity, are you going to include the -as branch ? The whole thing? No, see previous comments about the contents of the -as and -ac "branches" in the big lkml thread. But if people will forward on bits and pieces of the -as and -a

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Paolo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg KH wrote: | On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 08:28:58PM +0100, Paolo wrote: | |>Out of curiosity, are you going to include the -as branch ? | | | The whole thing? No, see previous comments about the contents of the | -as and -ac "branches" in the big lkml

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
Paolo wrote: Out of curiosity, are you going to include the -as branch ? The -as stuff should be built on top of 2.6.11.X. 2.6.11.X should not be "every fix under the sun, until 2.6.12 is released." Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body o

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Paolo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | For those of you who haven't waded through the huge "RFD: Kernel release | numbering" thread on lkml to realize that we are now going to start | putting out 2.6.x.y releases, here's the summary: | | A few of us $suckers will be trying to maintai

Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
=== Dmitry Torokhov: o Fix keyboards for Dell machines Greg Kroah-Hartman: o Linux 2.6.11.1 Olof Johansson: o Fix for trivial fix for 2.6.11 raid6 compilation on ppc w/ Altivec Rene Rebe: o trivial fix for 2.6.11 raid6 compilation on ppc w/ Altivec

Re: Linux 2.6.11.1

2005-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:53:02AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > I'll also be replying to this message with a copy of the patch itself, > as it is small enough to do so. Here it is diff -Nru a/Makefile b/Makefile --- a/Makefile 2005-03-04 09:27:15 -08:00 +++ b/Makefile 2005-03-04 09:27:15 -08:00