Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-03-12 Thread David Miller
From: Dmitry Vyukov Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:56:42 +0100 > But I don't see kernelci.orgbot referenced anywhere in the emails. > E.g. in the one that was linked above: > https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=syzkaller-bugs/OkwLGoS6UQA/hHAtCdnNBgAJ I'm not referencing that one above, I'

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-03-12 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:03 PM, David Miller wrote: > From: Dmitry Vyukov > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:22:54 +0100 > >> The problem strikes back. >> Again people complain that a email does not appear on LKML: >> https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2735905.html >> Though, it appeared on syzkalle

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-03-08 Thread David Miller
From: Dmitry Vyukov Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 17:22:54 +0100 > The problem strikes back. > Again people complain that a email does not appear on LKML: > https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2735905.html > Though, it appeared on syzkaller-bugs group: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller-bugs

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-03-01 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: >> > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they >> > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: >> > > >> >

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-24 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:06:02AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Alan Cox writes: > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:34:01 +0100 > > Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > >> >> Outside of the bugs being considered as considered as security issues, >

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-24 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Alan Cox writes: > On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:34:01 +0100 > Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> >> Outside of the bugs being considered as considered as security issues, >> >> the bugs syzbot finds are generally things that don't affect anyone in >> >>

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-24 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:34:01 +0100 Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > >> Outside of the bugs being considered as considered as security issues, > >> the bugs syzbot finds are generally things that don't affect anyone in > >> practice. So are very low

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-17 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Wed, 2018-01-17 at 18:16 +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: [...] > Agree, but as far as I understand it is specifically restricted. You > can see docs here: > https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/php/mail/mail-with-headers-attachments ROTFL - as if almost no one at Google know that there

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-17 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> I've also mailed a change to appengine that supports *.c, *.log and >> *.patch as text/plain extensions. There does not seem to be any major >> objects to it, but it will proba

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > I've also mailed a change to appengine that supports *.c, *.log and > *.patch as text/plain extensions. There does not seem to be any major > objects to it, but it will probably take some time to be deployed in > prod. After that I wi

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-17 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > I am definitely not asking for expertise in the kernel. I am asking > for a human who wants to help track down bugs in the kernel. What is that additional information that you need and that syzbot currently does not provide?

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-17 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 09:31:26AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> > I just checked a recent report from the Syzbot, and it's not fixed. >> > The raw.log file still uses a Content-Type

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 09:31:26AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > I just checked a recent report from the Syzbot, and it's not fixed. > > The raw.log file still uses a Content-Type of > > Application/Octet-stream. Worse the reproducer C sou

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > When I made the complaint it came to me and to messages on lkml as > .log. With Content-Type: Application/Octent-stream. Where was that? If I am not mistaken you actually didn't. I triple-checked my inbox and searched internet. The onl

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Dmitry Vyukov writes: > > 2> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: >>> Hi! >>> > *Snort* > > If the information to solve an issue is not in the Oops syzbot is > useless. Hi Eric Tha

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Fengguang Wu
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 08:59:36AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Sometimes the branches on linux-next are experimental crap. If someone adds an experimental memory allocator

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Guenter Roeck
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wro

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Sometimes the branches on linux-next are exper

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Guenter Roeck
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >>> >>> Sometimes the branches on linux-next are experimental crap. If someone >>> adds an experimental memory allo

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> Outside of the bugs being considered as considered as security issues, >> the bugs syzbot finds are generally things that don't affect anyone in >> practice. So are very low on the priority of things to get fixed. Not sure why are you sayi

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > I just checked a recent report from the Syzbot, and it's not fixed. > The raw.log file still uses a Content-Type of > Application/Octet-stream. Worse the reproducer C source file has a > content type of Application/Octet-stream instead of th

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-16 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> >> Sometimes the branches on linux-next are experimental crap. If someone >> adds an experimental memory allocator to linux-next before discovering >> it causes all kinds

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> >> Sometimes the branches on linux-next are experimental crap. If someone >> adds an experimental memory allocator to linux-next before discovering >> it causes all kinds

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:38:42AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Sometimes the branches on linux-next are experimental crap. If someone > adds an experimental memory allocator to linux-next before discovering > it causes all kinds of problems I don't want bug reports about my code > not bei

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Dmitry Vyukov writes: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Eric W. Biederman > wrote: >> Dmitry Vyukov writes: >> >>> Hi Pavel, >>> >>> I've answered this question here in full detail. In short, this is >>> useful and actionable. >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller/2nVn_XkVhEE/GjjfISejC

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Dmitry Vyukov writes: 2> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> > *Snort* >>> > >>> > If the information to solve an issue is not in the Oops syzbot is >>> > useless. >>> >>> Hi Eric >>> >>> That's true. But maintainers of the subsystem is in the best position >>> to

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > >> In lots of cases (~50%) quality of syzbot reports is equal to human > >> reports, or _higher_. > >> It provides exact kernel commit, config, compiler, stand-alone C > >> reproducer and a nice, symbolized report even with inline frames. You > >> don't always get all of this from human repo

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Mon 2018-01-15 11:08:12, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: >> > On Thu 2018-01-04 12:09:26, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 2018-0

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Pavel Machek
On Mon 2018-01-15 11:08:12, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > > On Thu 2018-01-04 12:09:26, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> >> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> >> > Hi! > >>

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > >> > *Snort* >> > >> > If the information to solve an issue is not in the Oops syzbot is >> > useless. >> >> Hi Eric >> >> That's true. But maintainers of the subsystem is in the best position >> to judge that. For that they need to see

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > *Snort* > > > > If the information to solve an issue is not in the Oops syzbot is > > useless. > > Hi Eric > > That's true. But maintainers of the subsystem is in the best position > to judge that. For that they need to see the report. Unless they are already overloaded by better qualit

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Dmitry Vyukov writes: > >> Hi Pavel, >> >> I've answered this question here in full detail. In short, this is >> useful and actionable. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller/2nVn_XkVhEE/GjjfISejCgAJ > > *Snort* > > If the informati

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Thu 2018-01-04 12:09:26, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: >> >> > Hi! >> >> > > >> >> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML m

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-15 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:35 PM, David Miller wrote: > From: Greg Kroah-Hartman > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 12:20:28 +0100 > >> If no one can, then it's just a spam bot and if I were vger's >> postmaster, I would blacklist it as well :) > > +1 Just to make it clear, humans were reading all normal co

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-08 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:50 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > It also seems to me, looking at other complaints on this thread, that > there is the opportunity for the syzbot to do much more. For example, > you can see if it repro's on the last released mainline kernel (such > as 4.14) and if so, have t

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-08 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:50 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 12:04:34PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> >> The problem is that it's not _me_, it's a computer program which uses >> some mail delivery system which I don't have full visibility into. I >> don't know if it even gets b

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 12:04:34PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > The problem is that it's not _me_, it's a computer program which uses > some mail delivery system which I don't have full visibility into. I > don't know if it even gets bounce emails (as far as I understand it's > not LKML that ge

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Pavel Machek
On Thu 2018-01-04 12:09:26, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> > Hi! > >> > > > >> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > >> > > were mailed as any other em

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Ozgur
04.01.2018, 18:31, "David Miller" : > From: Ozgur > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:56:56 +0300 Dvyukov, I think you will set a bot sensitive and syzbot send e-mail that it doesn't disturb list members :) David is sometimes nervous. Ozgur >>  autoanswer is just automated reply address that the lmkl

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread David Miller
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 12:20:28 +0100 > If no one can, then it's just a spam bot and if I were vger's > postmaster, I would blacklist it as well :) +1

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread David Miller
From: Ozgur Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:56:56 +0300 > autoanswer is just automated reply address that the lmkl system works and > your email arrives. > LKML e-mail list implemented SPF, DKIM and DMARC and I think some domains > were forbid. > For example yandex.ru or mail.ru If I am given specif

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Dmitry Vyukov writes: > Hi Pavel, > > I've answered this question here in full detail. In short, this is > useful and actionable. > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller/2nVn_XkVhEE/GjjfISejCgAJ *Snort* If the information to solve an issue is not in the Oops syzbot is useless. The Oops isn

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 12:04:34PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > > > w

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Pavel Machek
On Thu 2018-01-04 12:09:26, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > >> > Hi! > >> > > > >> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > >> > > were mailed as any other em

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: >> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: >> > Hi! >> > > >> > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they >> > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: >> > > >> > > "KASAN: use-after-

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: > > > > "KASAN: use-afte

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Ozgur
04.01.2018, 12:23, "Greg Kroah-Hartman" : > On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >>  Hello, >> >>  Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they >>  were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: >> >>  "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_t

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Pavel Machek
> On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: > > > > > > "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event" > > > https://groups.google

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 10:25 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: > > > > "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event" > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzka

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: > > "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event" > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller-bugs/nEeIAsNLWL4/1GzamOmRAwAJ > > "general protection fault in

Re: LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > Hello, > > Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they > were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: > > "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event" > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkal

LKML admins (syzbot emails are not delivered)

2018-01-04 Thread Dmitry Vyukov
Hello, Some of syzbot emails don't appear on LKML mailing lists, while they were mailed as any other emails. Here are few examples: "KASAN: use-after-free Read in rds_tcp_dev_event" https://groups.google.com/d/msg/syzkaller-bugs/nEeIAsNLWL4/1GzamOmRAwAJ "general protection fault in __wake_up_com