Re: thoughts on kernel security issues

2005-01-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:18, Zan Lynx wrote: > On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 10:37 -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > > > > > > Unfortunately, there will ALWAYS be a path, either direct, or > > > > indirect between the secure net and the internet. > > &g

Re: thoughts on kernel security issues

2005-01-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 13:56, Bill Davidsen wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 January 2005 15:05, linux-os wrote: > > > This isn't relevant at all. The Navy doesn't have any secure > > > systems connected to a netwo

Re: thoughts on kernel security issues

2005-01-26 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 15:05, linux-os wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, John Richard Moser wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > [snip] > > In this context, it doesn't make sense to deploy a protection A or B > > without the companion protection, which is what I meant.

Re: bzImage, root device Q

2001-07-20 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, D. Stimits wrote: >When booting to a bzImage kernel, bytes 508 and 509 can be used to name >the minor and major number of the intended root device (although it can >be overridden with a command line parameter). Other characteristics are >also available this way, through bytes

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-02 Thread Jesse Pollard
"Jim Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > From: "Jesse Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kurt Maxwell Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "J Sloan" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: >On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: >>I'll just have to decide which I value more. As long as I won't be killed >>for using a different OS, I still have a choice. > >No, but you might be forced out of a job.

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: >On Sunday 01 July 2001 13:48, you wrote: >> Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote: >> > I'm going to take a break from lurking to point out that I am not >> > dissatisfied with Windows. It has its uses, as do Linux (and NetBSD, and >> > Solaris, and the other op

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > --- Jesse Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "This is almost always the result of flakiness in > > your hardware - eit

Re: [Re: gcc: internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11]

2001-06-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > > "This is almost always the result of flakiness in your hardware - either > RAM (most likely), or motherboard (less likely). " > > I cannot understand this. There are many other > stuffs that I compiled with gcc without any problem. A

Re: What is the best way for multiple net_devices

2001-06-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:04:02PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > andrew may wrote: > > > > > > Is there a standard way to make multiple copies of a network device? > > > > > > For things like the bonding/ipip/ip_gre and others they seem to

Re: How to change DVD-ROM speed?

2001-06-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > On Wed, Jun 27 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 27 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > > I am trying to change the spin rate of my IDE DVD-ROM drive. My system is > > > > an Apple PowerBook G4, and I am using kernel 2.4. I want the drive to > > > > spin at 1X when I watch mov

Re: [PATCH] User chroot

2001-06-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wagner): > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >By author:Jorgen Cederlof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> If we only allow user chroots for processes that have never been > >> chrooted before, and if the suid/sgid bits won't have any effect under > >> the new root, it should be perfectly

Re: [comphist] Re: Microsoft and Xenix.

2001-06-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Monday 25 June 2001 16:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > > I learnt my computing on a PDP8/E with papertape punch/reader, RALF, > > Fortran II, then later 2.4Mb removable cartridges (RK05 I think). toggling > > in the bootstrap improved your concentration. M

Re: Linux and system area networks

2001-06-26 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > "Pete" == Pete Zaitcev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Roland> The rough idea is that WSD is a new user space library > Roland> that looks at sockets calls and decides if they have to go > Roland> through the usual kernel

Re: The Joy of Forking

2001-06-25 Thread Jesse Pollard
Rick Hohensee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote: > > >2.4.5 is 26 meg now. It's time to consider forking the kernel. Alan has > > >already stuck his tippy-toe is that pool, and his toe is fine. > > > > > > forget POSIX > > > The standards that matter are

Re: The Joy of Forking

2001-06-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote: >2.4.5 is 26 meg now. It's time to consider forking the kernel. Alan has >already stuck his tippy-toe is that pool, and his toe is fine. > >The "thou shalt not fork" commandment made sense at one point, when free >unix was a lost tribe wandering hungry in

Re: Controversy over dynamic linking -- how to end the panic

2001-06-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > > > The GPL license reproduced below is copyrighted by the Free Software > > Foundation, but the Linux kernel is copyrighted by me and othe

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wednesday 20 June 2001 17:20, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > Rob Landley writes: > > > My only real gripe with Linux's threads right now [...] is > > > that ps and top and such aren't thread aware and don't group them > > > right. > > > > > > I'm told they ad

Re: The latest Microsoft FUD. This time from BillG, himself.

2001-06-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:09:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5092935,00.html > > > > > Of course the URL that goes with that is : > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/features.asp > > > > Yes., Microsoft ship GNU C (quite le

Re: obsolete code must die

2001-06-14 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Cleanup is a nice idea , but Linux should support old hardware and should > not affect them in any way. > > Jaswinder. I agree - and added my comments below. > - Original Message - > From: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Linux

Re: isolating process..

2001-06-07 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:57:25PM +0200, Erik Mouw wrote: > > >> Is it possible by any means to isolate any given process, so that > >> it'll be unable to crash system. > > You just gave a nice description what an OS kernel should do :) >

Re: OOM process killer: strange X11 server crash...

2001-05-25 Thread Jesse Pollard
Ishikawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >Anyway, this time, here is what was printed on the screen (the tail end > of it). > --- begin quote --- > ... could not record the above. they scrolled up and disapper... > Out of Memory: Killed process 4550 (XF8_SVGA.ati12). > __alloc_pages: 0-order allocat

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-16 Thread Jesse Pollard
Bob Glamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Finally, there has to be an *easy* way of identifying devices from software. > You're right, I don't care if my network cards are numbered 0-1-2, 2-0-1, > or in any other permutation, *as long as I can write something like this*: > > # start up networking > f

Re: Not a typewriter

2001-05-14 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > IIRC, the 6 character linker requirement came from when the Bell Labs folk > > ported the C compiler the IBM mainframe world, not from the early UNIX (tm) > > world. During the original ANSI C meetings, I got the sense from the IBM rep, >

Re: mount /dev/hdb2 /usr; swapon /dev/hdb2 keeps flooding

2001-05-13 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Alexander Viro wrote: >On Sun, 13 May 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > >> > > root@kama3:/home/szabi# cat /proc/mounts >> > > /dev/hdb2 /usr ext2 rw 0 0 >> > > root@kama3:/home/szabi# swapon /dev/hdb2 >> > >> > - Doctor, it hurts when I do it! >> > - Don't do it, then. >> > >> > Just

Re: ide messages in log. Hard disk dying or linux ide problem?

2001-05-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
"Joel Beach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Until three or four weeks ago, I have been running kernel 2.4.2 with no > problems. However, my hard disk now seems to be playing up. In my system log, I > get the following messages. > > May 3 08:13:14 kinslayer kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { >

Re: inserting a Forth-like language into the Linux kernel

2001-05-06 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sat, 05 May 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote: >kspamd/H3sm is now making continuous writes to tty1 from an >in-kernel thread. It was locking on a write to /dev/console by >init, so I made /dev/console a plain file. This is after >hollowing out sys_syslog to be a null routine, and various >other min

RE: [RFC] Direct Sockets Support??

2001-05-03 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > > Doesn't this bypass all of the network security controls? Granted > - it is > > completely reasonable in a dedicated environment, but I would > think the > > security loss would prevent it from being used for most usag

RE: [RFC] Direct Sockets Support??

2001-05-03 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > Define 'direct sockets' firstly. > Direct Sockets is the ablity by which the application(using sockets) > can use the hardwares features to provide connection, flow control, > etc.,instead of the TCP and IP software module. A typical hardware > technology is Infiniband . In Infini

Re: init process in 2.2.19

2001-04-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am trying to add a process which is to be managed by init. I have added the > following entry to /etc/inittab > > SV:2345:respawn:env - PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin svscan /service > dev/console > > After saving, I execute the following command:

Re: /proc format (was Device Registry (DevReg) Patch 0.2.0)

2001-04-25 Thread Jesse Pollard
Tim Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday 25 April 2001 21:37, you wrote: > > Personally, I think > >>proc_printf(fragment, "%d %d",get_portnum(usbdev), usbdev->maxchild); > > is shorter (and faster) to parse with > > fscanf(input,"%d %d",&usbdev,&maxchild); > > Right, but what happe

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-25 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Rick Hohensee wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > for those who didn't read that patch, i #define capable(), > > > suser(), and fsuser() to 1. the implication is all users > > > will have root capabilities. > >

Re: /proc format (was Device Registry (DevReg) Patch 0.2.0)

2001-04-25 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wednesday 25 April 2001 19:10, you wrote: > > The command > > more foo/* foo/*/* > > will display the values in the foo subtree nicely, I think. > > Unfortunately it displays only the values. Dumping numbers and strings > without know

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > 1. email -> sendmail > > 2. sendmail figures out what it has to do with it. turns out it's deliver > ... > > > Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running > > as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
Tomas Telensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Alexander Viro wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Tomas Telensky wrote: > > > > > of linux distributions the standard daemons (httpd, sendmail) are run as > > > root! Having multi-user system or not! Why? For only listening to a port > > > <1

Re: light weight user level semaphores

2001-04-20 Thread Jesse Pollard
Olaf Titz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ehh.. I will bet you $10 USD that if libc allocates the next file > > descriptor on the first "malloc()" in user space (in order to use the > > semaphores for mm protection), programs _will_ break. > > Of course, but this is a result from sloppy coding. In gener

RE: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Jesse Pollard replies: > to Leif Sawyer who wrote: > >> Besides, what would be gained in making the counters RO, if > >> they were cleared every time the module was loaded/unloaded? > > > > 1. Knowl

RE: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Jesse Pollard
Leif Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > And that introduces errors in measurement. It also depends on > > how frequently an uncontroled process is clearing the counters. > > You may never be able to get a valid measurement. > > This is true. Which is why application programmers need to write > cod

Re: PATCH(?): linux-2.4.4-pre2: fork should run child first

2001-04-17 Thread Jesse Pollard
Brunet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >"Adam J. Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >>I suppose that running the child first also has a minor > >> advantage for clone() in that it should make programs that spawn lots > >> of threads to do little bits of work behave better on machines with a > >

Re: Is printing broke on sparc ?

2001-04-17 Thread Jesse Pollard
"Mr. James W. Laferriere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > .. ie: cat /etc/printcap > /dev/lp0(or /dev/par0) > gets me : > > /c#eodiecnyotai rhernili s to rpaemn > s eehpo o-.ROLPR0 roif{\=sl:x >

RE: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Jesse Pollard
Leif Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > From: Ian Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Manfred Bartz responded to > > > > Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who writes: > > > > > > You just illustrated my point. While there is a reset capability > > > > people will use it and accounting/logging

Re: fsck, raid reconstruction & bad bad 2.4.3

2001-04-15 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >>>(There is no config file to disable/alter this .. no work-around that I >>>know of ..) > >> You can't be serious. Go sit down and think about what's going on. > >Well, there are two potential solutions: > >a

Re: [RFC] exec_via_sudo

2001-04-10 Thread Jesse Pollard
kees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi > > Unix/Linux have a lot of daemons that have to run as root because they > need to acces some specific data or run special programs. They are > vulnerable as we learn. > Is there any way to have something like an exec call that is > subject to a sudo like permi

Re: OOM killer???

2001-03-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
avid Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >one of the key places where the memory is 'allocated' but not used is in >the copy on write conditions (fork, clone, etc) most of the time very >little of the 'duplicate' memory is ever changed (in fact most of the time >the program that forks then executes some oth

Re: Bug in the file attributes ?

2001-03-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > Hi, > > I just made a manipulation that disturbs me. So I'm asking whether it's a > bug or a features. > > user> su > root> echo "test" > test > root> ls -l > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root5 Mar 29 19:14 test > root> exit > us

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
Walter Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: [snip] > > Now, if ELF were to be modified, I'd just add a segment checksum > > for each segment, then put the checksum in the ELF header as well as > > in the/a segment header just to

Re: Linux connectivity trashed.

2001-03-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
"J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 03.29 Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > > The penetration occurred because somebody changed our firewall > > configuration > > so that all of the non-DHCP addresses, i.e., all the real IP addresses had > > complete > > connectivity to the outside world.

Re: OOM killer???

2001-03-29 Thread Jesse Pollard
Guest section DW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 01:02:38PM +0100, Sean Hunter wrote: > > > The reason the aero engineers don't need to select a passanger to throw out > > when the plane is overloaded is simply that the plane operators do not allow > > the plane to become overlo

Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
Oliver Neukum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > My suggestion would be to add a filesystem label (optional) to the > > homeblock of all filesystmes, then load that identifier into the > > /proc/partitions file. This would allow a search to locate the > > device parameters for any filesystem being mounte

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:40:42AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > Now, if ELF were to be modified, I'd just add a segment checksum > > for each segment, then put the checksum in the ELF header as well as > > in the/a segmen

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:15:57AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > objcopy - copies object files. Object files are not marked executable... > > objcopy copies executable files as well - check the kernel makefiles > for examples. At th

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
Sean Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 06:08:15AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > Sure - very simple. If the execute bit is set on a file, don't allow > > ANY write to the file. This does modify the permission bits slightly > > but I don't

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 06:08:15AM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > Sure - very simple. If the execute bit is set on a file, don't allow > > ANY write to the file. This does modify the permission bits slightly > &g

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > > >Any idea? > > > > Sure - very simple. If the execute bit is set on a file, don't allow > > ANY write to the file. This does modify the permission bits slightly > > but I don'

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:08:15 -0600, > Jesse Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Sure - very simple. If the execute bit is set on a file, don't allow > >ANY write to the file. This does modify the permission bits

Re: 2GB file limit ftp/scp Linux kernel 2.4.2 problem

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
> > [1.] One line summary of the problem: > > ftp FROM 2.4.2 ix86 machine to system with true 64-bit or otherwise no 2GB limit > system complains that the file size is too large. > > [2.] Full description of the problem/report: > > On the 2.4.2 ix86 machine doing put: > ---

Re: Disturbing news..

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Shawn Starr wrote: >Well, why can't the ELF loader module/kernel detect or have some sort of >restriction on modifying other/ELF binaries including itself from changing >the Entry point? > >There has to be a way stop this. WHY would anyone want to modify the entry >point anywa

Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-28 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Johan Kullstam wrote: >"H. Peter Anvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Alan Cox wrote: >> > >> > > Another example: all the stupid pseudo-SCSI drivers that got their own >> > > major numbers, and wanted their very own names in /dev. They are BAD for >> > > the user. Install-

Re: Larger dev_t

2001-03-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > high-end-disks. Rather the reverse. I'm advocating the SCSI layer not > > > hogging a major number, but letting low-level drivers get at _their_ > > > requests directly. > > > > A major for 'disk' generically make

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
Jan Harkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:57:42PM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > > Using similar numbers as presented. If we are working our way through > > > every single block in a Pentabyte filesystem, and the blocksize is 512 > >

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 09:15:08AM -0800, LA Walsh wrote: > > Now lets look at the sites want to process terabytes of > > data -- perhaps files systems up into the Pentabyte range. Often I > > can see these being large multi-node (think

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-27 Thread Jesse Pollard
LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ion Badulescu wrote: > > Compile option or not, 64-bit arithmetic is unacceptable on IA32. The > > introduction of LFS was bad enough, we don't need yet another proof that > > IA32 sucks. Especially when there *are* better alternatives. > === > So if it is a

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-26 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote: >>These are NOT the only 64 bit systems - Intel, PPC, IBM (in various guises). >>If you need raw compute power, the Alpha is pretty good (we have over a >>1000 in a Cray T3..). > >Best of all, the PowerPC and the POWER are binary-compatible to a very >la

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-26 Thread Jesse Pollard
Martin Dalecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > > > Matthew Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:47:13AM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: > > > > What do you mean by problems 5 years down the road? The real issue is that > > > > this 32-bit bl

Re: 64-bit block sizes on 32-bit systems

2001-03-26 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:39:21AM -0800, LA Walsh wrote: > > I vaguely remember a discussion about this a few months back. > > If I remember, the reasoning was it would unnecessarily slow > > down smaller systems that would never have block

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Paul Jakma wrote: >On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Guest section DW wrote: > >> But yes, I am complaining because Linux by default is unreliable. > >no, your distribution is unreliable by default. > >> I strongly prefer a system that is reliable by default, >> and I'll leave it to others

Re: [OT] Linux Worm (fwd)

2001-03-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Doug McNaught wrote: >Gerhard Mack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Bob Lorenzini wrote: >> >> > I'm annoyed when persons post virus alerts to unrelated lists but this >> > is a serious threat. If your offended flame away. >> >> This should be a wake up

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Alan Cox wrote: >> infinite storage. After all, earlier Unix flavours did not need >> an OOM killer either, and my editor was not killed under Unix V6 >> on 64k when I started some other process. > >You were lucky. Its quite possible for V6 to kill processes when you run out >

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: >Jesse Pollard wrote: >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Graham Murray wrote: >> >"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> >> making a patch means you've modfied the source which you are no

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001, Graham Murray wrote: >"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> making a patch means you've modfied the source which you are not allowed >> to do. The most you can do is report the bug through normal channels >> (you dont even have priority in reporting bugs since y

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > > > Not a chance. First your company must have at least 1500 licences and > > you can't modify any code... which implies that you can't rebuild either... > > You can modify your compiler, so that it accepts patches (with no context) >

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
Venkatesh Ramamurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Please check out this article. Looks like microsoft know open source is the > thing of the future. I would consider that it is a begining step for full > blown GPL > > http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/main/0,10228,2692987,00.html Not a ch

Re: Questions about Enterprise Storage with Linux

2001-03-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
james rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Tom Sightler wrote: > > > 2. Does linux have any problems with large (500GB+) NFS exports, how about > > large files over NFS? > > > > 3. What filesystem would be best for such large volumes? We currently use > > reirserfs on our internal

Re: Questions about Enterprise Storage with Linux

2001-03-07 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001, Tom Sightler wrote: >Hi All, > >I'm seeking information in regards to a large Linux implementation we are >planning. We have been evaluating many storage options and I've come up >with some questions that I have been unable to answer as far as Linux >capabilities in regards t

Re: Mapping a piece of one process' addrspace to another?

2001-03-07 Thread Jesse Pollard
Marcelo Tosatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > > > > > You are reinventing the wheel. > > man ptrace (see PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}{TEXT,DATA} and PTRACE_{ATTACH,CONT,DETACH}) > > With ptrace data will be copied twice. As far as I understood, Jeremy > wants to

Re: binfmt_script and ^M

2001-03-06 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Jesse Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > |> Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Andreas Schwab ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |> > Paul Flinders <[EMAI

Re: binfmt_script and ^M

2001-03-06 Thread Jesse Pollard
Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Andreas Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Paul Flinders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > |> Andreas Schwab wrote: > |> > |> > This [isspace('\r') == 1] has no significance here. The right thing to > |> > |> > look at is $IFS, whic

Re: binfmt_script and ^M

2001-03-05 Thread Jesse Pollard
John Kodis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:40:22AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > Somebody must have missed the boat entirely. Unix does not, never > > has, and never will end a text line with '\r'. > > Unix does not, never has, and never will end a text line with ' ' (

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Andrew Scott wrote: >On 15 Feb 2001, at 9:49, fsnchzjr wrote: > >> Watch Microsoft's Jim Allchin go Linux-bashing!!! >> Nice little article on how we're all going to die of herpes from our >> repeated exposition to Linux... >> http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-990

Re: Compatibility issue with 2.2.19pre7

2001-01-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:51:15PM -0800, Richard Henderson wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:59:24AM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > What I said is that I can write this C code: > > > > > > int x[2], * p = (int *) (((char *) &x)+1); > > > main

RE: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-23 Thread Jesse Pollard
"Jonathan Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I prefer descriptive variable and function names - like comments, they help > to make code so much easier to read. > > One thing I wonder though... why do people prefer 'some_function_name()' > over 'SomeFunctionName()'? I personally don't like the undersc

Re: multi-queue scheduler update

2001-01-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >microseconds/yield > > > # threads 2.2.16-22 2.42.4-multi-queue > > > - --- > > > 16 18.7404.603 1.455 > > > > I reme

Re: Off-Topic: how do I trace a PID over double-forks?

2001-01-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > This is more a Unix API question than a Linux question. > > I hope the issue is interesting enough to be of interest to some of you. > > Basically, I am writing an init which features process watching > capabilities. My init has a managem

Re: FS callback routines

2001-01-11 Thread Jesse Pollard
Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > > Daniel Phillips wrote: > > > DN_OPEN A file in the directory was opened > > > > > > You open the top level directory and register for events. When somebody > > > opens a subdirectory of the top level directory, you

Re: FS callback routines

2001-01-10 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Jesse Pollard wrote: > > Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > This may be the most significant new feature in 2.4.0, as it allows us > > > to take a fundamentally different approach to many differen

Re: `rmdir .` doesn't work in 2.4

2001-01-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: > > > Not exactly valid, since a file could be created in that "pinned" directory > > after the rmdir... > > No, it couldn't (if you can show a testcase when it would - please do, you've > found a bug). M

Re: FS callback routines

2001-01-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Michael D. Crawford" wrote: > > > > Regarding notification when there's a change to the filesystem: > > > > This is one of the most significant things about the BeOS BFS filesystem, and > > something I'd dearly love to see Linux adopt. It makes an app ver

Re: `rmdir .` doesn't work in 2.4

2001-01-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > Hello Al, > > why `rmdir .` is been deprecated in 2.4.x? I wrote software that depends on > `rmdir .` to work (it's local software only for myself so I don't care that it > may not work on unix) and I'm getting flooded by failing cronjobs

Re: Printing to off-line printer in 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Gunther Mayer wrote: >Jesse Pollard wrote: >> Originally, (wayback machine on) this was handled by a pull-up resistor >> in the parallel interface, on the "off-line" signal. ANY time the printer >> was powered off, set offline, or cable unplugge

Re: Printing to off-line printer in 2.4.0-prerelease

2001-01-04 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - Tim Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:39:10PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > As noted yesterday falling into parport_write will silenty lose data when the > > printer is off. > > (Actually it depends; I think FIFO/DMA

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > From: Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:18:35AM -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > > Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > x() > > > { > > > > > > switch (1) { > > > case 0: > > > case 1: > >

Re: Multi NICs. Single HOP (NIC) Problem.

2000-11-21 Thread Jesse Pollard
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have been struggling for a few months to get some internet servers > to use 3-4 NICs effectively. I want to bind deamons to their own > NIC so they are used independently. This is all IP software and i can get > software to bind to these IPs (usually as standalone dae

Re: [BUG] Inconsistent behaviour of rmdir

2000-11-16 Thread Jesse Pollard
Jean-Marc Saffroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It looks like the rmdir syscall behaves strangely in 2.4 kernels : > > saffroy@sisley:~> uname -a > Linux sisley 2.2.14-5.0smp #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 21:01:40 EST 2000 i686 unknown > saffroy@sisley:/tmp> mkdir foo > saffroy@sisley:/tmp> rmdir foo/. > saffroy@

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Jesse Pollard
Josue Emmanuel Amaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This subject came up in the Generalized Kernel Hooks Interface thread, since it > is an area of interest to me I wanted to continue that conversation. > > While I do not think it would be productive to enter a discussion whether there > is a need to for

Re: sendmail fails to deliver mail with attachments in /var/spool/mqueue

2000-11-11 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: >On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 01:40:42PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff V. Merkey) writes: >> >> >> >We got to the bottom of the sendmail problem. The line: >> >> > -O QueueLA=20 >> >> >and >> >> > -O RefuseLA=18 >>

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 bug found

2000-11-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 05:20:22PM +0200, Andrea Pintori wrote: > I've a Debian dist, Kernel 2.2.17, no patches, all packages are stable. > > here what I found: > > [/tmp] mkdir old > [/tmp] chdir old > [/tmp/old] mv . ../new > [/tmp/old](should be /tmp/new !!) > [/tmp/old] m

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Jesse Pollard
Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 08:44:11AM +0100, Christoph Rohland wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > Sounds great; unfortunately, the core group has spoken out against a > > > modular kernel. > > > > > > Perhaps IBM shou

Re: Looking for better VM

2000-11-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
-- > On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Szabolcs Szakacsits wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: [snip] > > You could ask, so what's the point for non-overcommit if we use > > process killing in the end? And the answer, in *practise* this almost > > never happens, root can always clean up and n

Re: Installing kernel 2.4

2000-11-08 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 03:25:56AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > > > > If the compiler always aligned all functions and data on 16 byte > > > boundries (NetWare) for all i386 code, it wou

Re: Persistent module storage - modutils design

2000-11-07 Thread Jesse Pollard
From: Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:01:02 -0600 (CST), > Jesse Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Enough people have asked for persistent module storage to at least > >> ju

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