Re: ping....

2003-10-19 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Diego Iastrubni wrote: sorry... i remember when this list had about 10-20 mails per day... we about less then 30 the last week... I think this is just a slow month. People are aborad or similar. Knowing this list, it's enough for one or two people to be abroad to lessen the load, assuming

Re: [Fwd: Re: ping....+ database project question]

2003-10-19 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Maxim K. wrote: > Abstract: > the db will contain information about real estates (flats/houses etc.) > i thought in OOD terms, and came to: > address, person, estate- data "objects" or - tables.using these > terms, there will be relations between these tables. > > i understa

ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Hello, I did the stupid mistake of accepting a USB modem ALE130 last week from Bezeq, which of course I found out is not supported by Linux. I just called them up and the only alternative they offer is the external ECI 270PR router. (Since I only ordered 500kB connection, I will also have to buy

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:33:38PM +0200, Dov Grobgeld wrote: > I did the stupid mistake of accepting a USB modem ALE130 last week from > Bezeq, which of course I found out is not supported by Linux. I just > called them up and the only alternative they offer is the external > ECI 270PR router. (S

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Dekel Tsur wrote: > You can try going to Bezeqstore and demand replacing your modem by an > ethernet modem (otherwise you will switch to cables). > If this doesn't help, you can either buy the ECI modem/router > (Note that when it has some bugs when it operates as router, but there are no > known p

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
Out of curiousity, what about the US Robitics aDSL router? Excelnet sells them for about 900 NIS, which is a lot of money for one's home, but not much for a business. Out of curiosity too - how reliable is it to buy any ADSL modem abroad in order to use it in Israel? What should be looked for? Or

RE: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Tal, Shachar
There are many xDSL standards: ADSL (Asymmetric DSL), SDSL (Symmetric DSL), DSL Lite, DSLAM, G.Lite, HDSL, IDSL, RADSL, UDSL, VDSL and more. However, AFAIK, each standard is exactly that - a standard. Shachar Tal Verint Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
Tal, Shachar wrote: There are many xDSL standards: ADSL (Asymmetric DSL), SDSL (Symmetric DSL), DSL Lite, DSLAM, G.Lite, HDSL, IDSL, RADSL, UDSL, VDSL and more. However, AFAIK, each standard is exactly that - a standard. Yes, I'm aware of all the others. I was talking only about ADSL. --Amos ===

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Oleg Kobets
> Not quite related, but Office Depot had a WiFi router for 1100 NIS, a > friend of mine in the U.S. just bought the identical unit for $60 in a > similar store. :-( So maybe it's a good option to open an account at www.mastop.co.il and create US address. Then order from US cheap and pay a relativ

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Eli Marmor
Tal, Shachar wrote: > > There are many xDSL standards: ADSL (Asymmetric DSL), SDSL (Symmetric DSL), > DSL Lite, DSLAM, G.Lite, HDSL, IDSL, RADSL, UDSL, VDSL and more. > > However, AFAIK, each standard is exactly that - a standard. The best thing in standards, is that you have many standards for

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread aviram
On Sunday 19 October 2003 15:35, Eli Marmor wrote: > Tal, Shachar wrote: > > There are many xDSL standards: ADSL (Asymmetric DSL), SDSL (Symmetric > > DSL), DSL Lite, DSLAM, G.Lite, HDSL, IDSL, RADSL, UDSL, VDSL and more. > > > > However, AFAIK, each standard is exactly that - a standard. > > The b

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that while ADSL may be a standard, that doesn't mean much - to really use it you still need to know what your tunneling protocol is, authentication scheme, etc, etc, etc. And all this before we even begin to talk about different implementations of that "s

filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Maxim K.
Hello, Linux People! after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads - "why not ext3/Reiser's ?" - "because journalling is already implemented in the DBMS.

Re: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Maxim K. wrote: Hello, Linux People! after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads - "why not ext3/Reiser's ?" - "because journalling is already implemen

Re: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
Can the RDBMS engine you chose handle raw partitions? If so, how would that compare to a filesystem? (and which RDBMS do you intend to use?) (and what type of application is it? Online transaction processing (a.k.a. OLTP) or batch processing a-la data warehouse?) Maxim K. wrote: Hello, Linux Peopl

Re: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 19 October 2003 16:50, Maxim K. wrote: > Hello, Linux People! > > after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which > filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) > the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads > > - "why not ext3/Reiser's

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Sunday 19 October 2003 16:25, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not to mention that while ADSL may be a standard, that doesn't mean much > > - to really use it you still need to know what your tunneling protocol > > is, authentication scheme, etc, etc, etc. And all this before we even >

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
Aviram Jenik wrote: AFAIK if your MERKAZYIA supports pppoe (most of them do now), you should be ok As far as I learned about this - PPPoE vs. PPTP has nothing to do with the telco's exchange. PPPoE and PPTP are used only between the computer and the modem, once the data reaches the modem it (the

RE: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Tal, Shachar
I'm not such an FS expert, so please step in to correct me in case I am wrong. All large databases (Oracle, UDB, MSSQL) have two different access patterns for files. One type is data access, one type is log file access. The question is now obviously divided into two questions: Which FS should you

Re: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 04:50:10PM +0200, Maxim K. wrote: > Hello, Linux People! > > after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which > filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) > the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads > > - "why not ext

Re: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003, Maxim K. wrote about "filesystem for database box": > after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which > filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) > the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads > > - "why not ext3/Reiser's

RE: filesystem for database box

2003-10-19 Thread Arik Baratz
> Hello, Linux People! > > after short consultation, i have come to this conclusion about which > filesystem i should use on my database box (or server) > the winner is: ex2 linux extended filesystem, yes, lassies & lads > > - "why not ext3/Reiser's ?" > - "because journalling is already implemen

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Gil Freund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aviram Jenik wrote: [snip] Would love to hear more than anecdotal evidence, though. I changed two ADSL connections (diffarent ISP, different cities) to PPPoE, using the older Elcatel Soho modems. The actual connection is from Netscreen firewalls. Cheers, --Amos (I kee

Help making Radeon 9000 work with XFree 4.3.0

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
Hi, I'm trying to make Xfree86 4.3.0 on Debian unstable (taken from http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386) work with a Radeon 9000 (not PRO) with AMD Athlon 2500 with no success. The closest instructions I found about this are at: http://space.virgilio.it/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/debi

Re: setxkbmap _XKB_RULES_NAMES property

2003-10-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:52:36PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > I am having a strange problem with setxkbmap. > when i run it with or without parameters i get this message: > Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property > user defaults: rules - 'xfree86' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' > Segmentation

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:13:43PM +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote: > > Not quite related, but Office Depot had a WiFi router for 1100 NIS, a > > friend of mine in the U.S. just bought the identical unit for $60 in a > > similar store. :-( > > So maybe it's a good option to open an account at www.mastop.

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:31:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aviram Jenik wrote: > >AFAIK if your MERKAZYIA supports pppoe (most of them do now), you should > >be ok > > As far as I learned about this - PPPoE vs. PPTP has nothing to do with > the telco's exchange. PPPoE and PPTP are use

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 08:02:17PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote: > > I changed two ADSL connections (diffarent ISP, different cities) to > PPPoE, using the older Elcatel Soho modems. The actual connection is > from Netscreen firewalls. > `The actual connection is from Netscreen firewalls.' What

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:13:43PM +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote: > > So maybe it's a good option to open an account at www.mastop.co.il and > > create US address. > > I used this service myself and it is quite good, considering that many > > things are simply unavailable in Israel. Shaul Karl wrot

upgraded IGLU FAQ

2003-10-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
http://iglu.org.il/faq has been upgraded to a newer version. The upgrade solves some potential security holes, as well as adds support for full unicode content (including Hebrew) and richer content language (http://iglu.org.il/faq/cache/211.html ) Note , however, that some of the newest additions

Re: ADSL - What is the current recommendation?

2003-10-19 Thread linux-il
On Monday 20 October 2003 02:02, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:13:43PM +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote: > > > So maybe it's a good option to open an account at www.mastop.co.il and > > > create US address. > > > > > > I used this service myself and it is quite good, consideri