On Mon, 20 May 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> >No. The unicode specification specify exactly how a compliant
> >implementation should display bidi (convert logical->visual). All
> >implementations should be strictly compliant. If two separate
> >implementations display t
yeah, i have it mounted and it still doesn't work :o(. in fact i added an
entry in fstab with permissions 0666. then i unmounted (because it was
already mounted) and mounted usbdevfs.
what could have possibly changed from mdk 8.0 to 8.2?
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 11:32, El-al, Netta wrote:
> hi,
> i
From: "Ishay Inbar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi,
> Using code beautifier for Perl (in my case) called Perltidy
> (http://perltidy.sourceforge.net/) you can add the HTML option and get a
> very nice HTML page out of any code.
> I believe there should be things like that to other codes as well.
>
> sh
I would swear that I had he_IL locale information installed under
/usr/share/locale in my former RH72.
Now that I upgraded to RH73, it is missing, and I (quite shamefully) cannot find
the rpm that contains it.
Any idea?
Dan.
=
To
Hello Oron,
Nice to hear from You.
The only thing I can say is that when I add
secondary address to eth or dummy with
ifconfig (not ifup script) it adds route entry,
and only with loopback it does not.
--
Semion Lisyansky
>From: Oron Peled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Semion Lisyansky" <[EMAIL PRO
On Mon, May 20, 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote about "Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL
mailing lists?":
> According to Unicode, the paragraph embedding level is computed anew for
> each block. A block is delimited by the start/end of text, and by Block
> Separators. There are no Block Separato
On Mon, May 20, 2002, Dan Kenigsberg wrote about "Silly question: who stole my locale
information":
> I would swear that I had he_IL locale information installed under
> /usr/share/locale in my former RH72.
>
> Now that I upgraded to RH73, it is missing, and I (quite shamefully) cannot find
> th
>
> On my Redhat 7.3,
> $ rpm -qf /usr/lib/locale/he_IL/
> glibc-common-2.2.5-34
> $ ls /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> LC_ADDRESS LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_MONETARY LC_PAPER
> LC_COLLATE LC_MEASUREMENT LC_NAME LC_TELEPHONE
> LC_CTYPELC_MESSAGESLC_NUMERIC LC_TIME
>
> I don't see ho
From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Please tell me what do you make of this - it seems beyond my grasp:
>
> ~$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> glibc-common-2.2.5-34
> ~$ ls /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> ls: /usr/lib/locale/he_IL: No such file or directory
> ~$ rpm -V glibc-common
> .?.
>
> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Please tell me what do you make of this - it seems beyond my grasp:
> >
> > ~$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> > glibc-common-2.2.5-34
> > ~$ ls /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> > ls: /usr/lib/locale/he_IL: No such file or directory
> > ~$ rpm -V gl
OK, this is a joke, right?
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (and the alphabet you are refering to was relevant to the time people
> wrote with very primitive pens on very problematic paper. Non of this is
> relevant to pencils, and to printed materials. Let's leave
On Sun, 19 May 2002, "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So basically, what you want us to do is to tell newbies "Well, Linux IS
> easy to learn! But first, you'll need to learn a new alphabet first!!".
No, you misunderstood. My rant went well beyond Linux -- Hebrew on
Linux is just a sy
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Uri Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is false. You simply do not know the history of the Hebrew language
> and the Hebrew alphabet. Hebrew was never dead. It was used among Jewish
> communities. Nikud came into use during the 9th-10th cent. You think
> anyone would
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Barak B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry: the real solution is not to change to other Charset/Lang and so on
> A lot of ppl (include me for example) feel better in Hebrew, like Hebrew,
> and see Hebrew as the language as part of Jews tradition.
Yes. The alphabet, ho
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 22:18, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2002, Uri Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The Hebrew alphabet also remained pretty much constant for the last 2K
> > years, and is flexible enough to serve well three languages
>
> No, it remained dead and nobody used it in
On 20 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Uri Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This is false. You simply do not know the history of the Hebrew language
> > and the Hebrew alphabet. Hebrew was never dead. It was used among Jewish
> > communities. Nikud came into use during
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen writes:
> > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, May 19, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about "Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL
>mailing lists?":
> > > > month work
> > > > maybe if you work full time on it day by day..
>
On 20 May 2002, Alex Shnitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alphabets aren't "designed" to be easily OCRable or to have a high
> entropy;
Yes they are. OCR is what your brain does -- only much better. Still,
alphabets to gravitate towards easier differentiation, because it makes
them easier to r
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Uri Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So? Should we post in Yiddish or Ladino? Or did you have a point?
>
> The point I made in a previous post. It's an alphabet that served several
> languages. Were all the users of those languages stupid?
No, they used an alphabet the
Hmm forgot to mention that I'm looking for an *external* modem and it should
be PCI, I already bought a ISA USR56K modem internal() and put it on my old
P1 computer but it didn't work.
Unfortunatly I *don't* have a ISA bus (bus right ?) on my newer PC...
The reason I need a new modem is because I
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 15:19, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> Yes. But what both you and Uri are missing is: "Alphabets are supposed
> to serve us, not the other way around"
You are right. My point is that diversity is part of humanity, and even
though in many cases it doesn't make sense from a practical po
On Mon, 20 May 2002 12:56:23 +0300 (IDT)
Dan Kenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ~$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> > > glibc-common-2.2.5-34
> > > ~$ ls /usr/lib/locale/he_IL
> > > ls: /usr/lib/locale/he_IL: No such file or directory
> > > ~$ rpm -V glibc-common
> > > .?. /usr/libex
Thats remind me... sometimes X hangs, and when I try to switch back
to a VC it doesn't or just show me a black screen with some gray little
squares. Switching back to X does not work and the screen shut itself
off after a few seconds, I can't even reboot using C+A+DEL only
using the cold reboot bu
On 20 May 2002, Alex Shnitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are right. My point is that diversity is part of humanity, and even
> though in many cases it doesn't make sense from a practical point of
> view, it still continues to exist, because we as people like it that
> way: practicality is n
First, I have found a site which may be related:
http://www.langbox.com/heb_e.html
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:49:33PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Sun, May 19, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about "Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
>lists?":
> > month work
> > maybe if you work full time on
BTW for latex there is a editor called 'he2' very useful.
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:49:47PM +0300, Eliran wrote:
> First, I have found a site which may be related:
>
> http://www.langbox.com/heb_e.html
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:49:33PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > On Sun, May 19, 2002,
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 18:41, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> > You are right. My point is that diversity is part of humanity, and even
> > though in many cases it doesn't make sense from a practical point of
> > view, it still continues to exist, because we as people like it that
> > way: practicality is no
On 20 May 2002, Alex Shnitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You don't need a reason to use it, because you already do.
No, I avoid it like the plague
> If Windows does their job fine
Windows cannot do anything fine, because you give up freedom using
it. Freedom is a *practical* thing. Or would
On Monday 20 May 2002 12:20, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> This was exactly my point. When you have a iso-8859-8-i email, what
> are "blocks"? If the mail reader and writer don't agree on the same
> definition of blocks, there can be problems.
in kde3, lars fixed the hebrew output of kmail, to what you se
On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 20:44, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> > If Windows does their job fine
>
> Windows cannot do anything fine, because you give up freedom using
> it. Freedom is a *practical* thing. Or would you like my to lock
> you up so you can see how freedom is not just some abstract princple?
> ;
In Tapuz's linux forum, people are talking about the linux-il Hebrew mailing
list discussion.
I suggest for anyone on this list who is configured for hebrew viewing to
check it.
You should see what some linux users think about IGLU (They don't like it!).
Please don't flame me for this, I'm don
Moshe Zadka wrote:
> So? Should we post in Yiddish or Ladino? Or did you have a point?
Far vus nisht? (Yiddish)
qui en sapiense i entendiente ... (from e'had mi yode'a - Pessa'h seder - in
Ladino)
.. will undoubtedly agree that it will spruce up the list and make it
interesting to non Linux peo
On Monday 20 May 2002 07:40, Alex Shnitman wrote:
> > No, it remained dead and nobody used it in day to day. Because it
> > is a stupid alphabet, optimized for carving on stone.
You are obviously unaware of the large amount of literatue that was written in
Hebrew over the was 2000 years. In fact
On Sunday 19 May 2002 23:14, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> KDE3/gnome2 will give you that.
when nadav will finish his project, they will be usable ;)
I did managed to write my mothers resume in kword, printing it, and I could
fax it to others, but for big documents, I doubt it been good. BTW: can I fax
On Sunday 19 May 2002 10:28, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> releases? What is the procedure? For example, why can't up2date be used
> to upgrade RedHat 7.2 to 7.3?
because then you will not have to purchase a new distro every 6 months or so.
If it was possible, then you had to buy a linux distro only o
From: "Diego Iastrubni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Again: Mandrake's installer already does that, if you choose "Israel"
> > installation. I'm not sure about redhat. Some difaults may have to be
> > re-visited. For instance: the fact that Mandrake 8.1 defaluted to
loading
> > KDE2 with the charset IS
On Mon, May 20, 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote about "Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL
mailing lists?":
> On Sunday 19 May 2002 23:14, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > KDE3/gnome2 will give you that.
> when nadav will finish his project, they will be usable ;)
My project? No, the QT/KDE/Gnome/Pango guys ar
On Mon, May 20, 2002, Amir Hardon wrote about "What people think of IGLU.":
> You should see what some linux users think about IGLU (They don't like it!).
>
> Here is a link (The thread name is "BEITAR"):
> http://www.tapuz.co.il/Forum.asp?id=236
Thanks for pointing us to that vile thread.
Linu
What I see is a small bunch of people who want to have everything made for
them and don't bother learning another language. I wonder if they erver
bother reading the posting guidelines or read the archives before they
write something.
At 21:32 20/05/2002 +0300, Amir Hardon wrote:
>In Tapuz's
Hi,
My beloved laptop is afflicted with a new disease (bug), never noticed before
upgrading to RH7.3+KDE3.0.1, and I don't know what to blame. Sometimes, as I
am working and X is on, the mouse pointer suddenly ceases to represent the
actual coordinates of this critter (actually, it's a touchpa
I have the exact same problem on my compaq laptop. I've seen various
reports about it on the web, but I have no idea why it occurs, sorry.
Alexander Maryanovsky.
At 18:25 5/20/2002 -0400, Arie Folger wrote:
>Hi,
>
>My beloved laptop is afflicted with a new disease (bug), never noticed before
>
Well, from the details you gave, it might be reasonable to assume that
the problem is related to hardware cursor handling.. You did not
state what driver you are using for X display... So the general
advice would be to disable hardware cursor handling in your
XF86Config and see if it helps in
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In Hebrew, base words (nouns, verbs) have dozens of different
> conjugations (hatayot), binyanim, etc. etc., so making a word list
> by collecting words from articles or online newspapers and so on, is
> likely to yeild a very incomplete wordlist,
How
Arie Folger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> upgrading to RH7.3+KDE3.0.1, and I don't know what to blame. Sometimes, as I
> am working and X is on, the mouse pointer suddenly ceases to represent the
> actual coordinates of this critter (actually, it's a touchpad), and is about
> 1.5 cm to the lef
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 00:03, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002, Amir Hardon wrote about "What people think of IGLU.":
> > You should see what some linux users think about IGLU (They don't like it!).
> >
> > Here is a link (The thread name is "BEITAR"):
> > http://www.tapuz.co.il/Forum.as
I had a simillar trouble with the mouse and the X system, i found out that the gpm
crashes with the mouse on X, did you try to shut down the mouse on the console, and
then to work with X?
Root:
gpm -k
/etc/init.d/gpm stop
(use one of them)
Then startx, maybe that's the problem, good luck.
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