On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 00:03, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002, Amir Hardon wrote about "What people think of IGLU.":
> > You should see what some linux users think about IGLU (They don't like it!).
> > 
> > Here is a link (The thread name is "BEITAR"):
> > http://www.tapuz.co.il/Forum.asp?id=236
> 
> Thanks for pointing us to that vile thread.
> 

I really really tried to respond on that forum, but I can't register or
post via Galeon :-( I hope someone who reads both list and the forum can
pass this on...

I have a couple of things to say:

1. Linux-Il people have no ownership on Linux is Israel. We're
established as the non official 'official' body only because of one
fact: we do stuff. Got the server to run IGLU, organize meetings and
lectures, do shows and insta parties.

Now mind you, that this 'we' thing is a bit stretched - there are
individual people doing stuff, in the technion or otherwise, and most of
them are also subscribned to the list. That's all.

Talk is cheap: if you 'do stuff' you'll get recognition and all the
respect in the world, if you just talk about the bad people here, we'll
ignore you. It's that simple. ;-)

2. Linux-IL is in English because the person who founded this list
didn't speak Hebrew! added to that is the fact that in past times a lot
of people did not have Hebrew enabled email software on Linux (or
otherwise). So yes, these things have changed, but we still like our
little list the way it is. Why dont you guys open a new list, or a web
forum which you already seem to do? there's no need for only one
resource on Linux in Israelm, there should and can be many.

3. Nimrod Keret (agent zzzen to some ;-) have already translated
Squishdot to Hebrew, so there is not need to do it again. I think
everyone here will be more then happy to give anyone who wants place on
the IGLU website to build and maintain a free (as-in-speech) Hebrew web
forum. How about it guys?

4. 99% of anything is crap. And this is true for both the people on
Linux-il and your forum.

5. There really is no need for 'us and them' mentality. You think we
suck? good! proove us wrong and do it better. In fact, we'll help you do
it better if we can.


Now, if you stay on your forum and continue to talk about how bad we all
are nothing will happen. If you'll go out and do something (like
establish a free Hebrew forum that anyone can come to and doesnt need to
give their show size to tapuz or ynet and supports Linux browsers)
you'll be a net.god. Well, maybe a net.angel - we have an inflation of
net.gods lately... ;-)

What will it be?

Cheers,
Gilad.
 
-- 
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://benyossef.com
"Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!"


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