Re: mozilla 0.9.2

IK>> See this bug for more info: IK>> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63054 Well, I guess people that want it should vote for this bug... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\

Re: mozilla 0.9.2

>> If people download the Linux version and test it, it would be interesting >> to see some feedback. Tried it, works. The only problem seen so far is that "nikud" is not displayed, it produces ? signs instead, but I'm not sure if it's Mozilla or font problem. In fact, I'm very happy that Mozilla

Re: mozilla 0.9.2

EL>> If asked I'm sure they would add that feature. Yeah, somewhere in this millennium. Thanks a lot, by this time my grandchildren will read it for me, so I would not care then. EL>> how about instead of saying opera lacking some features get EL>> people who would but it (yea paying it's not th

Re: mozilla 0.9.2

EL>> Actualy we don't owe them anything mozilla might has been a nice project EL>> but seriously. EL>> konqurer and opera are doing much better job Very debatable claim. EL>> opera might not be complitly free but it's the best linux browser I saw so EL>> far it doesn't crash at all it's VERY fas

Re: MS prohibits licensees using open source as development tools?

MT>> the Windows MSIE used to suck bigtime as well. theyv'e got the corporate MT>> funding and manpower to improve it. and they will. I do not believe that. Solaris MSIE was "proof of concept" product. It had played it's purpose, there's no slightest reason to spend on it any more - it will never

Re: SSH

EL>> Hi, Is there any alternative program for SSH-win? and a free EL>> program? There's SecureCRT (not free) and there's some plugins to TeraTerm (don't remember if it's free). I saw once a free command-line client, but not a GUI one. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken

Re: Re: MS prohibits licensees using open source as developmenttools?

>> I remember I saw it one, somehere... it's not a linux specific but There's a version of MSIE for Solaris - that's what they call "MSIE for UNIX". I have yet to see one person that saw it (MSIE for Solaris) and doesn't think it sucks big time. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be couns

Re: Vgames

OA>> True. also - a lot of scripts (which of course don't check for OA>> browser support other then document.all vs. document.layers) use OA>> document.all and no other IE specific extensions which isn't in OA>> the DOM. Well, these scripts are antic and will die out, as soon as Netscape 4 dies o

Re: Vgames

IK>> As to KHTML (used by Konq), it's much more forgiving than Mozilla. IK>> Heck, it implements a 'document.all' object (for IE compatibility)! If it implements full MSIE DOM (including all properties and methods ans stuff) it's cool. But somehow I doubt it. But if it does not, this only means t

Re: Vgames

MR>> Unfortunately their site is rendered wrong in konqueror, but I'm MR>> not sure which side is buggy. I fear it's Konq. I saw a number of sites rendered OK with Mozilla but bad with Konq. Or Mozilla is very forgiving (which rises aquestion why Konq isn't), or Konq is buggy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Vgames

TC>> Actually the latest news is that the newest nightly builds of mozilla TC>> /should/ contain bidi support compiled in (haven't tried it yet. just read TC>> a message in a newgroup). Does this mean there's a chance 0.9.[12] will have BiDi in? Can I already order wine and candies to celebrate?

Re: Another Semaphore question.

OA>> I'll think about, but I don't think I'll change from semaphores just yet. OA>> I don't like the idea of creating temp files for locks, and I can't lock Actually, cleaning temp file is by far easier than cleaning semaphore. Especially if your app can be killed any moment. OA>> against an exi

Re: Another Semaphore question.

OA>> I don't think its an option I have for the current OA>> implementation - it's file IO, and should be much slower, right OA>> ? Wrong. Record locking has nothing to do with file I/O - it is done entirely in memory. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malysh

Re: Another Semaphore question.

gk>> not terribly good portability, according to gk>> /usr/src/linux/Documentatino/mandatory.txt , for mandatory locks? gk>> advisory locks can be used, but then you only have a single such lock gk>> available per file. if you need to use several locks, you need to keep What? You sure should use

Re: virtual pc for pc

ML>> cares ?) each in its own VEnv on top of ME or 2000. Although the ML>> price on macs is 70 $ for a PC DOS version, VPC for PCs will ML>> cost... 299 $. I suppose the price tag will fall by the day. VMWare WS costs exactly $299. Coincidence? :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be co

Re: Another Semaphore question.

>> This is not a PROBLEM but a FEATURE. All Sys-V IPC (semaphores, >> message queues, shared memory) outlive their creators. Wrong. Shared memory can be pre-deleted, so that it is removed when last process is detached. Just like files. Semaphores can not. In fact, there's no good way to insure th

Re: Another Semaphore question.

OA>> One more semaphore question if you please - if I create a semaphoer set, OA>> and then leave it lying around and exit the process - will it stay in the OA>> system when no current process uses it ? Yes. This is one of the problems with semaphores. BTW, why not using file locking instead of i

Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

AB>> timeserver.iix.net.il | ntp.iix.net.il| stratum 2 | public AB>> ntp.ilan.net.il| ntp.ac.il | stratum 0/1 | only stratum 2 AB>> servers Seems that ntp.ac.il still allows connection to everybody. But then it's

Re: Public NTP servers in Israel

OG>> Can anyone point me to a list of public NTP servers in Israel. A There's ntp.ac.il, and there are ntp.tau.ac.il, ntp.technion.ac.il and I guess more, most of them uses ntp.ac.il. I'm not sure about others, but ntp.ac.il is public. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken

Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il

AB>>This thread is a bit moot. TAU's policy stands, and that is AB>> what we require for the free service we provide. That's what I thought it is, right? "We do it because we can, not because it has any reason behind it"... Well, you in are your own right, and nobody will sue you because he's

Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il

YR>> I believe you're missing a crucial point. I believe that YR>> wu-ftpd does not only verify that a certain IP address has a PTR YR>> record, but it also ensures that the PTR's respective A record YR>> is identical to the original IP address. The previous statement So? That's why I wrote "If

Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il

YR>> It provides a better audit trail. It is trivial to setup PTR records, and Just how better? Why PTR (which can be easily faked) is better than IP, which determines uniquely the offending host? As for triviality, many things are trivial to do and yet it is not the reason to require people to

Re: bezeqint customers should now be able to access ftp.cs.huji.il

SK>> 530- It seems your IP address isn't properly registered in SK>> 530-the DNS - You must allow reverse DNS lookups. What I can't get in this story - what is the meaning of this restriction? Like, what for do you need reverse DNS? What it gives to you? Just to show that you are "security-tough

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

NSC>> On one hand you're holding the flag of open source and free NSC>> code. And on the other hand, you're saying that uithout 300 NSC>> shekels an hour, you're not gonna get off your ass. You sound NSC>> alot more like a Microsoft developer than a Linux developer. That's bull. If you ask somebo

Re: Where is Marc's differential SCSI cable? (was: Re: Counterproductive posts.)

OZ>> There is a separate mailing list for newbie questions, and the regular OZ>> Linux-IL subscribers' time is too precious for clueless newbie questions. Franskly speaking, I'm freaking stunned such a topic is discussed on the list at such length, and with such an arguments. First, is this Linux

Re: php IDE.

EB>> Just started to write PHP and I cant find an IDE which EB>> will give me good debugging capabilities (step, break EB>> points ). EB>> EB>> Anybody can recommend one to me ? Zend IDE, but it's not free. There's also a free one, which claims to support debugging (nexus?), but I don't know

Re: SUSE 7.1

AS>> Your opinions are yours, of course, but I think you are AS>> misrepresenting RMS here. He has always objected to limiting the use AS>> of software. Consider his recent review of the new APSL (Apple Public Well, so he's a hypocrite here. Because when it is regarding his software (specifically

Re: SUSE 7.1

OH>> I heard from some people that the yast license is pretty 'sly' and some OH>> bad things about it. I prefer GPL not because I want to see its source or OH>> modify it (Although maybe it could be nice), but because I want to be free OH>> to use it. GPL has nothing to do with usage, and can not

Re: SUSE 7.1

OH>> SuSE employees are programming a bunch of software. What I said is, that OH>> there are people such as Koshelev Maxim (Downloader for X's author) OH>> who build programs at least as big as all the suse programs (yast + some OH>> bash scripts. It's not a 'bunch' of software imo), and get _NOTH

Re: SUSE 7.1

OH>> The wrong thing is that they are getting money for programs that OH>> volunteers did _FOR FREE_, on their own time. instead of giving OH>> the money for the volunteers I'm giving it to the company who OH>> packed this and made some nice setup program ? no thanks. they OH>> should release the

Re: SUSE 7.1

NM>> It's wrong because that's not the idea of linux, it ment to be a free NM>> software. Let's get it straight. Let's compare - how many hours of work did you invest in Linux (as OS, trademark, concept, etc.) and how many SuSE people did? After you make the balance, think again if you have any r

Re: A question about a small "makaf"

TC>> I'm not satisfied with this behaveiour. Can anybody think of a better TC>> workaround? A space there is also not a good idea, because the hyphen here TC>> is supposed to connected two words to one word. That's like you would say "I want to use character '0' to mean both 0 and 1 and I still w

Re: Stupid Bezeq

SS>> Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for SS>> private networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) Guess which address space will the second provider take? Bingo! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than

Re: A question about a small "makaf"

HBH>> Unfortunately, seems the BiDi standard doesn't treat the HBH>> "makaf" properly, and Konqueror shows exactly as Mozilla the HBH>> Makaf problem, which gives numbers as negative, and the same HBH>> shows with fribidi and gedit.. There's no good solution to this problem, because this is not a

Re: hebrew in napster

EL>> which reminds me did anyone got galeon ( the gnome based EL>> mozilla) to work better than the reqular mozilla? I tried it, but found it's not worth the trouble. It has the same gecko renderer from mozilla, so you earn nothing here. It's not so drastically faster, and it lacks a lot of conve

Re: Debian mirror

AS>> Marc was offering you in his mail the use of his local Debian AS>> mirror. You don't have to use it if you don't want, but AS>> attacking him for this mail seems to me like an inappropriate AS>> response. We must recognise here that Marc was playing a deal of post-spinal aperture in his mess

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

AS>> > Ah. Open Motif is not Open Source (TM). But if you read explanations why AS>> > it isn't (http://www.opennc.org/openmotif/faq.html) you see that it's AS>> > irrelevant for Linux. So from what I gather, Open Motif on Linux meets the AS>> > Open Source criteria. AS>> AS>> It doesn't, because

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

MZ>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, "Stanislav Malyshev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MZ>> > This what amazes me most in the thing. Being unable to port Unix GUI, MZ>> > written on Motif (which is now even Open Source) MZ>> MZ>> Motif is not open source. Ah. Open Motif is not Open Source (TM). But if you rea

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

NSRS>> 6. There is currently NO GUI for linux. Bare in mind that even on Solaris NSRS>>the advanced GUI uses Motif and the normal GUI is absolutely SHITTY. This what amazes me most in the thing. Being unable to port Unix GUI, written on Motif (which is now even Open Source), for years. Shows

Re: smtp

OH>> Netvision customer's IPs are on some black list of dial up users, in OH>> http://mail-abuse.org/dul . OH>> some smtp servers use this list for protecting their users for spam. OH>> therefore, I can't send them mail! It sucks.. The real source of suckiness here is that paranoid sysadmin which

Re: bidi mozilla again

TC>> BTW: the source was full of files with CR chars, which annoyed cpp on many TC>> occasions, and thus had to be removed. TC>> TC>> crlf from fixDos ( http://e.co.za/marius/downloads/misc/ ) proved to be TC>> very handy for the job. Actually, I guess perl -npi.bak -e 's/\r\n$/\n/g' would do the

Re: ipchains

AS>> That is necessary for copyleft. If you could take Linux and release it Sure. So be aware that any time you read "proprietary" in FSF texts, you should read "non-GPL", since GPL restricts not only more strict licenses, but also less strict. I understand why it's done, but let's be honest - do

Re: ipchains

MZ>> > For GPL, RMS is the copyright law. MZ>> MZ>> No it isn't. RMS has his legal counsel (a professor of law) issue his MZ>> opinions. If you think you opinions of law are worth more, you're MZ>> welcome to do whatever you want. I just think RMS's legal counsel MZ>> is pretty sound. Is that a p

Re: ipchains

AS>> Have you actually READ the GPL? It does not define "derived work" AS>> anywhere, leaving that to copyright law. RMS has said as much, too. For GPL, RMS is the copyright law. Since if RMS thinks it's violating GPL, you probably will very soon forced to GPL it or pull it, if only you don't wan

Re: ipchains

AS>> > ==quote== AS>> > Richard Stallman wrote: AS>> > AS>> > That you don't distribute binaries does not change the fact that your AS>> > source code is designed to include Readline in the program. You AS>> > cannot do that, now that your license is incompatible with the GPL. AS>> > ==end quote=

Re: ipchains

NH>> What kind of judge is going to make a decision against a company NH>> when in a 100,000 line code, 50 lines "somehow distantly NH>> resemble" code from a GPLed program? If the developer only looks NH>> at the code, that's what going to happen - he won't suddenly NH>> have 10,000 lines identic

Re: ipchains

AS>> That's a common misconception. It should have been obvious, but AS>> somehow never is, that no amount of licensing trickery can make one AS>> program be considered a derivative work of an unrelated program. And See, this is an official position of RMS. I have quotes from him personally sayin

Re: ipchains

AS>> The same copyright system that disallows you to copy ripped MP3s AS>> disallows companies to make proprietary products out of GPLed AS>> software. Our copyright system is just fine. With our GPLed software the matter is pretty complicated. Generally, GPLed software is referred to as a "free

Re: spoofing DNS..

AB>> I can't even believe we're really discussing this lame subject AB>> here. These lamo hacker wannabe kids questions don't belong on AB>> this list. You can discuss attack methods for two reasons - or you want to attack someone, or you want to protect yourself. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/

Re: ipchains

AO>> Using copyrighted material which you do not own is illegal. AO>> Storing mp3 SONGS that you did not buy/have the disk is Now you seem to assume every MP3 song is illegal copyrighted material. MPAA would laugh in joy reading this. They have enormous success in delegitimizing innocent file fo

Re: ipchains

AO>> 1 line more and you'll see I noted "related" packets, That depends on how your firewall understands "related". If it understands it as something more than current connection - install another firewall. AO>> The target at the end of the process is slip a packet AO>> through the gateway and i

RE: spoofing DNS..

SB>> Those are I-lines.. not spoofing - hybrid has option to add an SB>> I-line for spoofing. I don't know about I-lines, etc. but I know pretty well DNS spoofing via cache poisoning is possible - have done that myself. If you are interested, just search "DNS cache poisoning" - there was a lot of

Re: spoofing DNS..

T>> lets say i want to connect to an irc server with a spoofed ip, can In most cases, you can't. Most cases of "IP spoofing on IRC" is really DNS spoofing. Real IP spoofing over TCP is pretty hard to do, and if you want to spoof more than one packet (i.e., maintain a real session), you need to be

Re: ipchains

AO>> Even if the CEO does. Seen any company that the users don't hold mp3s AO>> on their computers? It's illegal in the US and most startups are AO>> registered in the US. MP3 format is illegal in US? News for me. Is WAV going to be banned too? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be couns

Re: ipchains

AO>> 1. the computer on 192.168.1.78(example) is up Nice. Most computers tend to be up when people are working. AO>> 2. It can receive connection to the ICQ port Wrong. Firewall won't let incoming connection in. It would only allow to receive UDP packets inside "virtual circuit" created by outg

Re: ipchains

AO>> But if icq.com(example) got my packet and know my "secret" intranet AO>> addresses Oh, yeah, those defined in top-secret RFC1918? 10.1.1.1? 10.10.1.1? 192.168.1.1? 172.16.1.1? Am I l33t haxx0r already? Guess how many pings is it going to take me to know each internet-accessible address on y

Re: ipchains

S>> the first step is using udp sniffer. UDP sniffer on what? S>> after that you have tools you can find on the web to preform scans in the S>> network of the victim. How? Can you name one such tool? S>> you must have direct connection to the user for that. (I think its ICQ S>> default). ICQ

RE: ipchains

S>> using ICQ remote attacker is able to make full port scan on networks behind S>> the firewall. How exactly one does that? Can you elaborate? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\

Re: ipchains

AO>> The ICQ protocol reveals the real IP of the computer running the client, AO>> so even if you use GNU replacements it doesn't matter. AO>> This "feature" opens a window for "crackers" to use various firewall AO>> penetrating/piercing techniques. If the computer is behind the firewall, most ch

Re: ipchains

NH>> So what? Unless you have a completely-proxy-firewall (block NH>> everything and allow only application proxies), whatever packets NH>> you let through (be they http, ftp, or icq) carry the IP address NH>> of the machine behind the firewall. But so what? If you use I give you address of a mac

Re: bidi mozilla again

IK>> there in the US. I wonder if we should start a major Bugzilla issue IK>> and make everyone vote for it, or maybe just flood Bugzilla with IK>> bugs such as "msn.co.il displays reversed" ? I'm ready to vote for it twice a day :) That's realy _only_ thing why I can't say "Mozilla is an usable

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

HBH>> was around 1998) - the guys from checkpoint contacted him and HBH>> threatend him with a lawsuit... Do they have a patent on their GUI organisation? If not, what prohibits you from making GUI of similiar organisaion, while not infringing CP's rights on pictures, writings, etc. stuff? HBH>>

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

HBH>> FW-1 got some advantages and features which you cannot look. HBH>> One of them is to work with TCP/IP's layer 7 (protocols).. HBH>> HBH>> So yes, they are bastards for charging a $1000 for an ugly HBH>> motif GUI, but they do have advantages that nor IP Chains and HBH>> not Netfilter have t

Re: Checkpoint Firewall-1 on Linux ?

HBH>> THERE IS a GUI for Linux to configure the firewall, but the HBH>> bastards want a $1000 for the fucking GUI! I'm serious! Heh. Anybody saw recently a car seller that sells you a car without a steering wheel and then wants another $10,000 for one? And what surprises me the most, people still

Re: MS internal network compromised

SF>> According to this kind of logic, MS would actually want their code to be SF>> stolen. Let's get serious: if an open-source code implements something No. The loss would be much greater than the benefit. But if it's _already_ stolen anyway, why not to use it? SF>> a copyrighted code and use i

Re: MS internal network compromised

HBH>> Since most of Linux applications are open source - they cannot HBH>> say it's stolen, cause if they'll say that - then they'll have HBH>> to show their code and prove that it's the same... Not at all. They will claim their IP was stolen and their code, obtained by illegal means, was used in

Re: MS internal network compromised

AJ>> Apparantely, the Windows and MS Office source code was stolen (I'm not AJ>> joking here). AJ>> AJ>> Take a look at MSNBC: AJ>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/481927.asp Actually, this is very bad news. Now nothing stops Microsoft lawyers from twarting any compatibility effort not driven by Micro

Re: reply-to field

NH>> P.S. Yes, voting in this egroups poll is not very convenient, and it forces NH>> you to give out your email address. I hope that people will get past that NH>> (egroups is a respectable company, so far, and I don't know of any evidence NH>> of it spamming). Well, except that they do it in

Re: M$ ad

OH>> That's a new M$ advertisement in german, first one against Linux. OH>> http://www.koehntopp.de/kris/msad.jpg Anybody cares to translate what's actually written there? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +

Re: LGPL question

OZ>> While IANAL, my understanding of the situation is that LGPL was designed OZ>> exactly for such a situation. More interesting question. Let's say we have some open source non-GPL application, which uses LGPL-library. 1. Is such application legal? 2. Can LGPL library source be distibuted tog

Re: RH 7.0 infested with bugs?

SB>> No. slackware does not use rpm by default nor redhat scripts. slackware SB>> uses simple .tgz packages, and simple BSD scripts. thats how linux should SB>> be ;) That's bull. Linux should have no packages and no scripts and no slackware. If you need some software, you code it yourself or dow

Re: Logical -> Visual Hebrew in Python

IS>> Lingua::IW::Logical. Actually more like semi-broken - in some IS>> cases it works fine. Actually, it worked fine in most cases, but since there's more comprehensive implemntations, like FriBidi, I did not really find time to fix it to be 100% good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shal

RE: SuSE 7.0

MS>> Some people may say Im wrong on this, but RH is getting awfully MS>> M$ftish. The dumb-user-approach saying "you don't really need to That's true. You don't _need_ to know. Information hiding is good, look at your software design guides. You still _can_ know, if you care. But average user is

Re: internel base64 decoder error

TC>> And here I see: TC>> [Formatting error: Internal base64 decoder error] TC>> TC>> I'm using pine 4.21. Marc is using netscape 4.75. This is not the first TC>> time I can' read his messages sent to this list (although sometimes I TC>> can). That's because all Marc's mails get out in Base64, a

Re: MySQL question

AJ>> According to the docs, MySQL listens for outside connections. AJ>> I'm going to use MySQL from the localhost, and I don't want it AJ>> to bind to the eth interface. Is there a way to restrict it to AJ>> the loopback interface? In /etc/my.cnf: [mysqld] skip-networking Prevents mysql from li

Re: [RELIGIOUS OFFTOPIC] Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner

OZ>> The real issue is not Shabbat/non-Shabbat, but Yom Kippur vs. Shabbat vs. OZ>> non-Shabbat. Now that you said that I know at least two people that would insist on doing it on Yom Kippur because doing it any other day hurts their feelings... OZ>> There is no IGLU cabal. All former cabal mem

Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner

OD>> I'm terribly sorry I had to interfer. I do not see why the code of OD>> behivour of religious people is less "davka" than of a secular person. I Because you and you comerades raiser a flamewar on the list (well, it really was a flamefest, since observant people just said one short phrase eac

Re: Organizing a Linux Dinner

MZ>> I'm happy you agree my preferences not to eat kosher should be respected. This reminds me a history about two hilonim. One says to the second: "I go to the restaurant N this evening" - "But this is a glatt kosher restaurant!" - "Doesn't matter, I will eat only boiled eggs". Sorry for the o

Re: A story about our Internet connection

BM>> Because no one can supply high speed internet now, because of legal BM>> problems. I don't believe if the cables have started it back in 90's the issue won't be resolved by now. But they started it when they felt satellites gonna eat their market and they need to stop being oligopoly and sta

Re: A story about our Internet connection

HBH>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12572.html Quote: >> Apparently, the fastest Internet connection you can currently find in Israel is ISDN, "a measly 128 Kbps". That's a lie. FR is available, and you can order FR more than 128K. And no, Bezeq isn't to blame. Why didn't I hear a wor

Re: Root Remote Login

GSM>> > So how can I allow the remote login as root to those GSM>> > systems anyway? GSM>> Why? To allow remote logon of root is to ask for trouble. Why not just GSM>> su when needed. Or if you want to "do it right" install sudo. Install ssh. Do ssh -l root myremotehost. Be happy & secure. --

Re: what the fuck..... ?!?!?!?!

OM>> Yes, this is new distribution of Linux. OM>> ESR had succeded in pursuading MS that Linux is popular Intel OS. In OM>> addition to OM>> features listed on site, MS-Linux will feature: You forgot about Vigor - vi with Office paperclip. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels

Re: АРПИИО: АРПИИО: Backup Solutions

n>> 2. Quick Link -> Compatability Guides -> Software Compatability Guide. Well, not too obvious path... Also, word "client" hints that server on Linux is non-existant? Then, it's not support. It's half-support. If I have Linux server, I want to backup it on Linux, not install another NT server.

Re: OO no... here we gOO again...

IA>> OmerM started something... IA>> IA>> http://iglu.org.il:8080/Zen/SchemeBook IA>> No, I mean dead-tree book. The thing you can read while... let's say stuck in traffic jam on Jabotinsky street. Something like the Camel (or maybe the Llama) book. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall

Re: OO no... here we gOO again...

MZ>> Let me clarify the muddy waters: in no language I'm aware of, is "if" an MZ>> object. In most sane languages (Scheme, Python, Smalltalk), a boolean is MZ>> an object. In smalltalk, a boolean has a method called ifTrue which Ahh... that's boring. Just another way to write the same. -- [EMAI

Re: C++ today (was "Re: GTK 1.3.1")

IA>> > Given enough time and resource - definitely. Having made entire DB IA>> > solution in pure Javascript (no, it wasn't fun), I'm firm in this. IA>> IA>> now THAT sounds impressive. does it parse XML too? do publish it in IA>> OpenSource :-) No, it didn't (though I guess I might do that too,

Re: OO no... here we gOO again...

IA>> I was once told that in Scheme (and IANASP) an "if" statement is an IA>> object in itself. I'll be learning scheme next year and be able to tell Well, I don't know what for, but OK - I can imagine language where sytax constructs are objects. Even makes me curious. Good book on Scheme, anyone

Re: АРПИИО: Backup Solutions

n>> I wonder you didn't mention NetWorker product from Legato - n>> www.legato.com , that has the biggest installed base Worldwide, as n>> well as above 250 installations in Israel. The distributer of this Was I looking very bad or Legato solutions doesn't support Linux? At least, Networker has n

Re: C++ today (was "Re: GTK 1.3.1")

VV>> Something that is widely implemented and followed, perhaps? You must mean Microsoft Office *ducks* *runs* *hides* VV>> No, sadly. You? ITYM "no, luckily". It isn't real flamewar unless it is over One True Standard. VV>> For some reason, I haven't saved the addresses of FUCKING VV>> "

Re: OO no... here we gOO again...

SS>> Suppose C++ has a great feature, which makes writing easily SS>> maintainable code a brease, but is not in the "official" OO SS>> specification. Obviously, C++ is not an OO language in that SS>> respect, but who cares? We can also suppose C++ hasn't some of features that are in "official" OO

Re: OT: Who is Linus Torvalds named after?

SF>> >From what I read in an article some time ago, Linux Torvalds was named SF>> after the American Chemist Linus Pauling. But I heard from a different SF>> source that he was named after the character Linus from the cartoon strip SF>> "The Peanuts". Why not after second Pope Linus then? -- [E

RE: Installing apache 1.3.12-12mdk on Mandrake 7.1

CS>> > > > (@- "Akamai, Google, MicroSoft, Sun, Enquire, Pixar, CS>> > > > //\ Oracle, Intel, Conduct, NASA, Sony, Python, RISC, CS>> > > > v_/_JPG, PNG - CS masturbation is changing the world." CS>> > > > -- CS, answering to Linus, 3/7/2000 CS>> > > > CS>> >

Re: Unauthorized and heterodoxical biography of Linus and Linux

OZ>> http://www.softpanorama.org/People/Torvalds/Linus_Torvalds_biography.shtml Well, well - the same Nick Bezroukov. Remember, he's a propagandist no less than Raymond, just with another slogan on the banner - "I am skeptical". -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanis

Re: New generation passwords

JBA>> There's absolutely no way to do it unless you have been using JBA>> a user admin tool from which you can recover clear text Not true. You can make scheme which forces every user to change their password on first login. Now you need a thing that will authenticate user with both new and old p

Re: VPN's and linux...

BS>> I'm trying to find out if anyone actually uses linux as a company's VPN... BS>> does it have the same functionality as Firewall-1 with VPN-1? (Checkpoint) In fact, I'm interested in the thing too. Our needs are simple: 1. Firewall opening some set of ports to reach from outside and as trans

Re: Consider banning KDE?

NM>> Took me two days to realize GNOME is not nearly as stable as KDE1 is. NM>> While mostly, it works, various components (e.g., the help application) NM>> crash repeatedly and sometimes restarting X seems like the only NM>> option... Seems you have bugs in your X installation. Never saw GNOME l

Re: Jobs in Aduva

>> >Hmm... knowing how to type "sh Xinstall.sh" makes you a qualified "core >> >Linux" person? >> > >> >> If you think that THIS is enough to make XFree 4 function >> correctly on any given system, you are not qualified. What, Xfree 4 is so bad that it isn't enough? I thought they've got a relea

Re: The Myth of Open Source Security

AM>> Because they fixed so MANY holes, it isn't practical. What isn't practical, sending CC of CVS diff fixing the hole to maintainer of the tool? Or to bugtrack? Or publishing it on some page? Gimme break. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ S

Re: qmail question

AJ>> There must be a better way to do this, since all I'm looking for AJ>> is a simple filter on the 'to' field... AJ>> AJ>> Any ideas? procmail? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\

RE: The Myth of Open Source Security

RS>> Try out OpenBSD for size RS>> (they claim Three years without a remote hole in the default install! Two RS>> years without a localhost hole in the default install!) What I don't like in OpenBSD is when someone discovers security hole they pop up and say "we

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