Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 10:47:23PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > >Shaul Karl wrote: > > > >> My true suggestion is to raise the problem on > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >I'll probably do that. That's actually the information I was really > >looking for. > > I'm not

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 10:25:47PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rony Shapiro wrote: > > > > >>What about "cvs -qn up -r bugfix16"? > >> > >> > >> > > > >Exactly my point - you have to define a label "bugfix16", and adhere to > >that > >naming convention. What if someone creates a label "B

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:14:43PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > update-binfmts is part of a separate debian package (update-binfmts ?) $ apt-cache search update-binfmts binfmt-support - Support for extra binary formats $ Package: binfmt-support 1.2.2

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread dittigas
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 20:21, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > dittigas wrote: > > >On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 19:36, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > > > >>dittigas wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>And, on Debian Unstable install seems to fail with: > >>> > >>>FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. > >>>update-binfm

Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread linux-il
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Shaul Karl wrote: My true suggestion is to raise the problem on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll probably do that. That's actually the information I was really looking for. I'm not sure it's the right forum, but there is a debian-mirrors moderated mailing list (http://lists.debia

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread linux-il
We have Tortoise as an open-source CVS client for Windows, integrates very nicely with the Windows Explorer. But the guy/company we hired to setup a basic development environment for us shows us how Eclipse is actually the best CVS GUI interface, for any platform. For Linux, there is Cervisia for

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread linux-il
Rony Shapiro wrote: What about "cvs -qn up -r bugfix16"? Exactly my point - you have to define a label "bugfix16", and adhere to that naming convention. What if someone creates a label "BugFix18"? The system does not enforce any policy - you need the discipline to adhere to naming conventio

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
dittigas wrote: Exported LANG as he_IL.UTF-8 got: keyboard:X11DRV_KEYBOARD_DetectLayout Your keyboard layout was not found! Yes, ok. But did Hebrew work? Was the order of characters correct? Exported LANG as he_IL.ISO-8859-8 and got the same error with an additional complaint: err:keyboard:X11

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread dittigas
Exported LANG as he_IL.UTF-8 got: keyboard:X11DRV_KEYBOARD_DetectLayout Your keyboard layout was not found! Exported LANG as he_IL.ISO-8859-8 and got the same error with an additional complaint: err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode Please report: no char for keysym 0CF7 (hebrew_qoph) : for all keys, no

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
dittigas wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 19:36, Shachar Shemesh wrote: dittigas wrote: And, on Debian Unstable install seems to fail with: FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. update-binfmts: warning: Couldn't load the binfmt_misc module. Manually running update-binfmts --enable gives: upd

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 08:55:18PM +0200, dittigas wrote: > And, on Debian Unstable install seems to fail with: > > FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. > update-binfmts: warning: Couldn't load the binfmt_misc module. > > Manually running update-binfmts --enable gives: > > update-binfmts --enabl

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread dittigas
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 19:36, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > dittigas wrote: > > >And, on Debian Unstable install seems to fail with: > > > >FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. > >update-binfmts: warning: Couldn't load the binfmt_misc module. > > > >Manually running update-binfmts --enable gives: > > >

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
dittigas wrote: And, on Debian Unstable install seems to fail with: FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. update-binfmts: warning: Couldn't load the binfmt_misc module. Manually running update-binfmts --enable gives: update-binfmts --enable FATAL: Module binfmt_misc not found. update-binfmts: war

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
dittigas wrote: Does it need to be installed or run in any particular way in regards to LANG support for Hebrew encoding etc.? You need to set the encoding to something that supports Hebrew. LC_CTYPE=he_IL is fine. So is (with sufficiently late versions) en_US.UTF-8. Pay attention to case and

Re: Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread dittigas
Does it need to be installed or run in any particular way in regards to LANG support for Hebrew encoding etc.? On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 16:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi list, > > Lately, the BiDi engine in Wine has changed to be an external library, > that has to be statically linked during compi

Wine RPMs/Debs and BiDi support

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi list, Lately, the BiDi engine in Wine has changed to be an external library, that has to be statically linked during compilation. As a result, I have just found out that the RH9 RPMs don't support BiDi out of the box. I'm on that case, but I would like to know where we stand on other. I wou

Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shaul Karl wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:07:18PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm not sure whether there are any other official mirror sources. I wouldn't like to rsynch from a secondary mirror, as that may impose a latency into the mirror (i.e. - the Israeli mirror will alsways be 1 day

Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:07:18PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I'm not sure whether there are any other official mirror sources. I > wouldn't like to rsynch from a secondary mirror, as that may impose a > latency into the mirror (i.e. - the Israeli mirror will alsways be 1 day > behind). >

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida
i don't know if its not hackers-il material but: You said it, you can't. The thing is, you don't have too. its not an application that requires that much performance for disk drive reading. you load the file into memory once, then when the user click save it dumps it back to disk. for manipulatio

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Gad
lets talk now about the requirements design and implementation and maintenance. the first 2 are clearly not connected to a versioning system or "configuration management". its about good practices, using a good UML case tool? (or prefferably throwing the UML garbage, saving a lot of time and use

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Rony Shapiro
Hi, > > > >I don't want to start a Holy War, but CVS is great for tracking changes at > >the file and directory level, but it lacks built-in support for getting > >"meta-data" on the changes, i.e., to answer queries like "what files were > >changed for bugfix 17, when and by whom?" > > > What abou

Re: [JOB] Sys Admin in Talpiot

2003-09-09 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Yasha, We need an Israeli citizen for this job for reasons that I do not intend and am not required to elaborate in a public forum. Israeli citizens with older ID cards have a nationality ("leum") indicated on their ID card. We don't care what this nationality is. It can be "Russian", "Jewish

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Rony Shapiro > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:48 PM > release 3.4?". Also, it has no explicit idea of a development cycle (coding, > unit test, integration, release, maintenance). Again, I *like* CVS,

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Daniel Vainsencher
Dear original poster - While we're asking bigger picture questions - what do you need CASE for? this is not a rhetorical question. All of these tools take quite a bit of work to get them to help you. Unless you have a precisely defined need, you might get some pretty pictures, but are very unlikel

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Rony Shapiro wrote: > > >Folks, > > > >As much as I like CVS, it is not a full-blown configuration management > >system, and a configuration management system is not a CASE tool. > > > >I don't want to start a Holy War, but CVS is great for tracking cha

Re: Routing problem

2003-09-09 Thread Idan Sofer
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 14:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > |172.17.2.30 Masquerade t this interface > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt > Iface > 172.30.0.0 172.16.0.10 255.255.0.0 UG

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > UML is garbage, too many diagrams, too many inconsistencies between them. checkout > http://dori.technion.ac.il/opm/ > One highly orthogonal and highly expressive diagram for everything, technion > methodology. + Java > case tool free to d/l for education

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Rony Shapiro wrote: Folks, As much as I like CVS, it is not a full-blown configuration management system, and a configuration management system is not a CASE tool. I don't want to start a Holy War, but CVS is great for tracking changes at the file and directory level, but it lacks built-in suppor

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida
UML is garbage, too many diagrams, too many inconsistencies between them. checkout http://dori.technion.ac.il/opm/ One highly orthogonal and highly expressive diagram for everything, technion methodology. + Java case tool free to d/l for educational use or non-commercial use. currenly only works

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles wrote: Having/being a relatively heavy user of Clearcase I would disagree with you. Clearcase is a mature product. It's problem is that it has so many options and possibilities that it is trivial to shoot yourself in the fo

RE: Routing problem

2003-09-09 Thread YBEN
Hi, -The two eth0 appear since the first one is for the network attached to the eth0 and the second one is for the default router. -I forgot to mention that station C could ping all the stations including the Linux router. -About the local looping, well it seems to work fine... Yehoram B.Y.

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Rony Shapiro
Folks, As much as I like CVS, it is not a full-blown configuration management system, and a configuration management system is not a CASE tool. I don't want to start a Holy War, but CVS is great for tracking changes at the file and directory level, but it lacks built-in support for getting "meta-

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Gad
Josh Roden wrote: We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in " Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing Rational ClearCase . I would appreciate anybody's suggestions. Josh Roden I'm having the same prob

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida
read this, very enlightening "converting from clearcase to cvs" http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/info-cvs/2002-02/msg00552.html also, note that there is a cvs for win32 (i.g: win 2000) www.cvsnt.org works fairly well, but the linux version is better. for clients in windows you have wincvs that i

Re: Routing problem

2003-09-09 Thread yasha
dear yehoram, [idea in the form of a question]: why are there two eth0 listed in your routing tables when you only have on listed in your interfaces list? also did you try to ping from C -> *all* and from D -> *all* ? seems like maybe there's a conflict of ip sharing? did you also r

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Lior Kesos wrote: Shany Pozin wrote: We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing Rational ClearCase. I would appreciate anybody's sugge

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Alon Weinstein
We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing Rational ClearCase. I would appreciate anybody's suggestions. Josh Roden Isn't clearcase simply a realy serious,

Routing problem

2003-09-09 Thread YBEN
Hi, I'm trying to use Linux as a small router but it is probably not my day :) this is the configuration I have: +--+ | O | +--+ |172.17.2.3 | | |172.

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Lior Kesos wrote: Shany Pozin wrote: We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing Rational ClearCase. I would appreciate anybody's suggestions. Josh Roden

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Josh Roden wrote: > We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give > a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" > and are looking for and open source solution instead of > purchasingRational ClearCase. Are you sure you mean ClearCase? ClearCase is a Versio

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Lior Kesos
Shany Pozin wrote: We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing Rational ClearCase. I would appreciate anybody's suggestions. Josh Roden

RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida
word of caution! i have evaluated the thing last semester for the technion. aside from the many drawbacks i can specify one that is mucho annoying: you can do association class! forget it, it doesn't worth the hassle. note: poseidon is an extension of argouml. here is my short eval in hebrew: שימו

Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I'm not sure whether there are any other official mirror sources. I wouldn't like to rsynch from a secondary mirror, as that may impose a latency into the mirror (i.e. - the Israeli mirror will alsways be 1 day behind). Shachar Oleg Kobets wrote: Change the upstream server and see if

Re: Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Oleg Kobets
Change the upstream server and see if the problem persists. - Original Message - From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Debian rsync problems > hi all, > > There is a wierd proble

Debian rsync problems

2003-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
hi all, There is a wierd problem when trying to sync mirror.hamakor.org.il with the debian mirror. It appears that the rsync connection works fine (i.e. - connection is established), but every so often (very often) no data goes through (rsync doesn't print anything). Is this an upstream mirror

Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Shany Pozin
--=-IykfNAEeXDu5q5C3RV28 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can try Argo UML http://argouml.tigris.org/ shany On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:43, Josh Roden wrote: > We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give > a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CAS

Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)

2003-09-09 Thread Josh Roden
We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)" and are looking for and open source solution instead of purchasing  Rational ClearCase. I would appreciate anybody's suggestions.   Josh Roden  

Re: New Mailing List for Translation of Technical Documents

2003-09-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: New Mailing List for Translation > of Technical Documents": > > > > > Are you aware of the existing translation mailing list? > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > One I suppose. But I still don't

Re: New Mailing List for Translation of Technical Documents

2003-09-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: New Mailing List for Translation of Technical Documents": > > > > Are you aware of the existing translation mailing list? > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > One I suppose. But I still don't know how to subscribe to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my prev

Re: [OT] Re: Changing encoding on KOrganizer?

2003-09-09 Thread Amichai Rotman
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 00:59, you wrote: > korganizer sux... > * save a todo list in hebrew. > * change locale and run korganizer again. the text will be unreadable. OK then, Can you sujest anothe KDE based Organizer? i would like to be able to sync it to my Palm. Thanks, Amichai. =

Re: [JOB] Sys Admin in Talpiot

2003-09-09 Thread yasha
dear jonathan ben avraham, just a question for clarification re: your job offer for a sys admin in talpiot: you state that Israeli citizenship is required, but then at the end you state that you invite applications from people regardless of nationality, etc... can you please clarify -- wh