Dear original poster - 
While we're asking bigger picture questions - what do you need CASE for?
this is not a rhetorical question. All of these tools take quite a bit
of work to get them to help you. Unless you have a precisely defined
need, you might get some pretty pictures, but are very unlikely to
actually achieve any goals.

If you have specific goals, specifying them expicitly will help the list
help you.

Daniel

Tzahi Fadida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> UML is garbage, too many diagrams, too many inconsistencies between them. checkout
> http://dori.technion.ac.il/opm/
> One highly orthogonal and highly expressive diagram for everything, technion 
> methodology. + Java
> case tool free to d/l for educational use or non-commercial use. currenly only works 
> with microsoft
> access database in windows, but there is a non publicly released version that use 
> xml. if anyone
> wants contact me.
> if you are doing agents methodology, this is for since it has more under the hood 
> then any other
> methodology out there for agents.
> for life processes its the tool of choice.
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > Rony Shapiro
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:48 PM
> > To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > As much as I like CVS, it is not a full-blown configuration management
> > system, and a configuration management system is not a CASE tool.
> >
> > I don't want to start a Holy War, but CVS is great for tracking changes at
> > the file and directory level, but it lacks built-in support for getting
> > "meta-data" on the changes, i.e., to answer queries like "what files were
> > changed for bugfix 17, when and by whom?" and "what bugfixes made it into
> > release 3.4?". Also, it has no explicit idea of a development cycle (coding,
> > unit test, integration, release, maintenance). Again, I *like* CVS, and it's
> > fine for small industrial projects, or even large open source projects, but
> > it's not a full configuration management tool.
> >
> > Rational Rose, OTOH, *is* a CASE tool. That is, it allows one to draw
> > various UML diagrams, check their syntax, annotate the sematics, generate
> > code, etc. etc. But for educational purposes, I think the important thing to
> > get across is the importance of a formal notation, and a development
> > process, and for this Xfig (or Visio) is Good Enough (tm).
> >
> > Just my 0.02 NIS.
> >
> >     Rony
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shachar Shemesh
> > > Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:07
> > > To: Lior Kesos
> > > Cc: Josh Roden; Linux-Il (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)
> > >
> > >
> > > Lior Kesos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Shany Pozin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>We (Hadassah College - Computer Science) want to give
> > > >>>a course in "Computer Aided Software Engineering (CASE)"
> > > >>>and are looking for and open source solution instead of
> > > >>>purchasing  Rational ClearCase.
> > > >>>I would appreciate anybody's suggestions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Josh Roden
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > > Isn't clearcase simply a realy serious,mature and commercial CVS?
> > >
> > > I think that sentance is probably wrong on each and every claim it is
> > > making. ClearCase (or, more precisely, the rational product management
> > > suite) is much more than CVS. For example, it allows hard linking
> > > between the revision control and the bugs database.
> > > On the other hand, it is also not mature. I have seen at least one
> > > company where there was a migration from CVS to CC, and the result was a
> > > general uproar. The migration caused things, generally, to become
> > > slower, less intuative, and more difficult.
> > >
> > > As for serious - well, when someone had a problem of exeeding quota,
> > > where the system claimed that he takes 500MB in modified sources (i.e. -
> > > the system more or less claimed that he typed 500MB of sources), I find
> > > it hard to call that serious. I will agree that the system is
> > > commercial, though :-)
> > >
> > > > cvs is preinstalled or available in practically any linux distro.
> > > > http://www.cvshome.org/ for detailed information .
> > >
> > > Add to that bugzilla for change management, and your'e pretty much set
> > > to go.
> > >
> > >           Shachar
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shachar Shemesh
> > > Open Source integration consultant
> > > Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/
> > >
> > >
> >
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