Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shaul Karl wrote: As to your original problem, aren't those problems might point an intruder? Well, of course. An intruder MAY have generated those symptoms. It's highly unlikely, however. Logs are not full, TCP communication is at normal level. syslog has warnings about SCSI errors. All sy

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:23:16PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > About serial consol - anyone has a > RJ-45 to D9 serial cable? > I don't have one. You can probably do without it. There are adapters that have an RJ45 female on one end and any convention

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote on 2003-06-03: > hmm... beyond the questionable ethics of M$, I beleive that the > impressive design has a lot to do with the crappiness of the implmentation. > > Unix and Unix like systems such as Linux that share the same design > philosophy are 'worse is better' systems.

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:23:16PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > any chance a kernel update will prevent this from recurring? (currently > 2.4.18-8 from woody) Not enough information to say, sorry... we need more info. It's unlikely to hurt, but I can't guarantee it will help, either. On a s

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: That's a good indication. Which process? 6783 :-) Ideas, anyone? I don't even know how to find out which process it was (i have a general idea, due to the fact that I tried to kill services, and some of them hung). cat /proc/$PID/cmdline? hangs. Tried that. Th

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:01:32PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > I would have married Linus if I could get a production 2.6 kernel > today... My efforts to move our clients (a couple of people I'm working > for) to Linux would have been much easier... Getting a 2.6 kernel today is easy, a one lin

Segmentation fault while emerging tcsh in Gentoo

2003-06-03 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
After successfully compiling tsch, emerge emits this message and quits without installing tsch: /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: line 1177: 29937 Segmentation fault perl tcsh.man2html !!! ERROR: app-shells/tcsh-6.12-r2 failed. !!! Function src_install, Line 40, Exitcode 139 !!! (no error message) Is

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:01:33PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > CPU affinity is available under Linux, at least. > > If you can find me the command, I'll be forever in your debt. I googled > myself to death over this one. Quoting Dave Jone's What to Expect Document: - 2.5 adds system calls

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:34:33PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > ps hangs, cannot complete (not ^C). > same goes for top and for killall. Something is holding a lock. > This looks like some process is in uniterruptable sleep, but without PS, > I cannot find out who. Magic-SysRq, if it's ena

Re: Offline IMAP?

2003-06-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Meir Kriheli wrote on 2003-06-02: > On Monday 02 June 2003 13:46, Dan Armak wrote: > > On Monday 02 June 2003 11:53, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: > > > Talking of offline access to various things, what would be the best > > > way to read my IMAP mailbox offline? I.e. I want to cache the > > > messages

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:12:44PM +0300, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > I hardly think you can find something that good for her on that > machine. KDE & GNOME are > out of the question with 64MB RAM (I know because I have such a > machine). Linux popular This is silly. I use gnome-latest in debian u

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > ps hangs, cannot complete (not ^C). > same goes for top and for killall. > > This looks like some process is in uniterruptable sleep, but without PS, > I cannot find out who. > > ls /proc doesn't list too long. > > There is one process that, if I try

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 13:58, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 01:01:33PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > CPU affinity is available under Linux, at least. > > > > If you can find me the command, I'll be forever in your debt. I googled > > myself to death over this one. > > Quo

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Oleg Kobets
I had a similar situation. I tried everything, but eventually I just reset it :-( Are you by any chance have onboard SIS900 NIC ??? I think it's related. Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Shachar Shemesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday,

I'm playing chicken (was: Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!!)

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > >Posix thread library is problematic. > >Here's a couple of examples. > >A. Threads: > >Lack of true, low level, thread control. > >For instance, in Win32 I can save a thread's context, suspend it > >remotely (from ano

Re: Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Ehud Karni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:34:33 +0300, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ideas, anyone? I don't even know how to find out which process it was (i > have a general idea, due to the fact that I tried to kill services, and > some of them hung

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:50, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A friend of mine had her windows (98) die a horrible death and she asked me > to reinstall it. I told her that I could install a better operating system > called Linux instead. Now, this would be fine and dandy, as sh

Re: Symulation of WitForMultipleObjects on Linux

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > About the WaitForMultipleObjects on Linux - it indeed looked like a useful > thing back in the NT 3.51 days, except that it didn't work for Socket handles > and the limit of 64 objects was annoying (had to accomodate for unlimited > n

Force reboot a machine?

2003-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
What do you think of the following. Remote server. Machine has uptime of 159(!!!). ssh responds as if the machine is totally idle. ps hangs, cannot complete (not ^C). same goes for top and for killall. I cannot kill some processes. I cannot seem to reboot the machine. This looks like some process

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-03 Thread Shlomi Fish
You can try Vector Linux: http://lwn.net/Articles/31572/ (note that I did not try it myself, just read about it in Linux Weekly News). Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page:

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > IMHO this is the real problem with ACLs - they give you the ability > to define a security policy with very fine resolution. But guess - > what? it doesn't help you one bit understand what that security policy > should be. In a sense, having more opt

RE: RedHat 9 ISO image mirrors in Israel?

2003-06-03 Thread Josh Roden
Title: RE: RedHat 9 ISO image mirrors in Israel? > Doron Ofek wrote on 2003-06-02: > > ftp://mirror.israel.net > > http://mirror.israel.net > > I've seen it.  Fast but doesn't carry the ISO images, only individual > files.  I wonder why doesn't RedHat (and all others) use jigdo...  Or > just

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 15:06, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > > Posix thread library is problematic. > > Here's a couple of examples. > > A. Threads: > > Lack of true, low level, thread control. > > For instance, in Win32 I can save a thread's context, suspend it > > remote

Re: RedHat 9 ISO image mirrors in Israel?

2003-06-03 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Guy Teverovsky wrote on 2003-06-02: > On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 11:51, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: > > > Doron Ofek wrote on 2003-06-02: > > > ftp://mirror.israel.net > > > http://mirror.israel.net > > > > I've seen it. Fast but doesn't carry the ISO images, only individual > > files. I wonder why doesn

Symulation of WitForMultipleObjects on Linux

2003-06-03 Thread linux_il
Hi, About the WaitForMultipleObjects on Linux - it indeed looked like a useful thing back in the NT 3.51 days, except that it didn't work for Socket handles and the limit of 64 objects was annoying (had to accomodate for unlimited number of threads and file handles). You might want to look at the

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilboa Davara wrote: Posix thread library is problematic. Here's a couple of examples. A. Threads: Lack of true, low level, thread control. For instance, in Win32 I can save a thread's context, suspend it remotely (from another thread or even a controlling process) implant the saved context into

Re: problem with connecting to a microsoft Proxy server

2003-06-03 Thread Dittigas
well this is a different issue :) do you need it for mozilla on windows, btw? I don't think there's a solution for other platforms yet (SSPI). dittigas On 2003.06.03 11:25, Assaf Flatto wrote: Thanks but this doesn't help me isnce i have no way to download the new version to my station . and my

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-03 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
Hi, > A friend of mine had her windows (98) die a horrible death and she > asked me to reinstall it. I told her that I could install a better > operating system called Linux instead. Now, this would be fine and > dandy, as she doesn't need anything special that Linux doesn't support, > b

Re: Kinneret/KnoppixKDE Staff

2003-06-03 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
Itay Duvdevani, head of development team in Kinneret. Available by mail most of the time... Could you be more specific about what you're planning? On Tuesday 03 June 2003 11:42, you wrote: > Hi, > > I ask all the people who are involved with one of the localization > projects for "Linux Bootable

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Gilboa Davara wrote: Posix thread library is problematic. Here's a couple of examples. A. Threads: Lack of true, low level, thread control. For instance, in Win32 I can save a thread's context, suspend it remotely (from another thread or even a controlling process) implant the saved context into

Re: problem with connecting to a microsoft Proxy server

2003-06-03 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
Hi Assaf, As far as I recall, Konqueror (at least in KDE 3.1) does automatically requests user/pass. Not sure about others.. As far as I remember Microsoft ISA server, and I assume that your company (CellCom) is using Active Directory - you'll need first to "join" the Active Directory Serv

Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-03 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
Hi everyone, A friend of mine had her windows (98) die a horrible death and she asked me to reinstall it. I told her that I could install a better operating system called Linux instead. Now, this would be fine and dandy, as she doesn't need anything special that Linux doesn't support, but her c

Kinneret/KnoppixKDE Staff

2003-06-03 Thread Eli Marmor
Hi, I ask all the people who are involved with one of the localization projects for "Linux Bootable CD" to contact me as soon as possible (I'm not near my e-mail most of the day, so please use phone if it's possible. Numbers are detailed below in my signature). It includes both of the projects -

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 09:06, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:46:09AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > Argh. > > I never said that it had anything to do with A. Scheduling or B. > > Security. > > That's what your sentence above implied, but it may or may not be my > lack of r

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Gilboa Davara wrote: As much as I think that Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3 original design is impressive, the implementation is sourly lacking and MS has an annoying tendency to push all of their development resources on ways to screw their clients instead of trying to get the damn thing to work right. hmm

problem with connecting to a microsoft Proxy server

2003-06-03 Thread Assaf Flatto
Hello I have a problem with connecting my MDK station to the internet at work . The traffic outside is redirected via an MS proxy server (ISA server ), when i try to access the web i get blocked on the proxy and unable to continue , i've tried to use Mozila , Galeon, Links but all failed . i con

Re: tcsh question

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:53:42AM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: > hi > > the sysadmin has messed with the global .cshrc, and now when i do a > redirection, e.g. : > echo hello > log > i get : > log: File exists. > what do i need to unset to solved this ? You need to unset the 'noclobber' shell varia

tcsh question

2003-06-03 Thread Erez Doron
hi the sysadmin has messed with the global .cshrc, and now when i do a redirection, e.g. : echo hello > log i get : log: File exists. what do i need to unset to solved this ? erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:46:09AM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Argh. > I never said that it had anything to do with A. Scheduling or B. > Security. That's what your sentence above implied, but it may or may not be my lack of reading comprehension. > I did say that NT still has a lead on that

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 08:33, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:09:59PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > Actually you are correct (here I get myself crucified) but hear me out. > > I spent years of work on NT internal APIs (The the IBM OS2 APIs that > > share the same design) and

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Oron Peled
First just a short reminder to everybody: Linux is Free (and *BSD as well) -- Itches will be scratched, eventually Window, BeOS, are not -- wait for some benevolent vendor to scratch you itches And now to more interesting technical issue: On Tu

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 11:09:59PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Actually you are correct (here I get myself crucified) but hear me out. > I spent years of work on NT internal APIs (The the IBM OS2 APIs that > share the same design) and the design itself is *very* impressive. Where is it document

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 07:28, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > >Actually you are correct (here I get myself crucified) but hear me out. > >I spent years of work on NT internal APIs (The the IBM OS2 APIs that > >share the same design) and the design itself is *very* impressive. > >E

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilboa Davara wrote: Actually you are correct (here I get myself crucified) but hear me out. I spent years of work on NT internal APIs (The the IBM OS2 APIs that share the same design) and the design itself is *very* impressive. Even with the 2.6 NPTL (The Native Posix Thread Library, already out

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Tue 03 Jun 03, 1:14 AM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > GD>> with the RedHat 9), the Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3 has better security > GD>> and scheduling (Though performance is impressive) > > Windows security is a funny thing. It is so good almost no one > understands/uses it :) I me

Re: [OT] Looking for a grandpa laptop

2003-06-03 Thread shtirlitz
Quoting Eli Billauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello all, > > I would like to spend 200 NIS or so on a laptop. Requirements: > > * 486 or Pentium @ 66 MHz > * ~ 1 GB Hard disk > * "laptop" = portable computer, something you can carry with you. > * Doesn't have to be small. > * Doesn't need to run o

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
GD>> with the RedHat 9), the Windows NT/2K/XP/2K3 has better security GD>> and scheduling (Though performance is impressive) Windows security is a funny thing. It is so good almost no one understands/uses it :) I mean, certainly, using it like it was intended. GD>> In short, the Win32API is impre

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Monday 02 June 2003 21:37, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > talk to me when it will have kde+hebrew+mozilla+oo. > > Then we will talk about h/w > linux still is the best os for personal useage: more drivers+app's, greater > updates. IMHO. You forgot the most important one: Freedom > ביום שני, 2 בי

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
Actually you are correct (here I get myself crucified) but hear me out. I spent years of work on NT internal APIs (The the IBM OS2 APIs that share the same design) and the design itself is *very* impressive. Even with the 2.6 NPTL (The Native Posix Thread Library, already out with the RedHat 9), th

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Eli Billauer
Windows is better than Linux. Windows has higher technology, it's developed by serious proffesionals, and of course you can't write quality software if you're not paid for it. Well, these are not my opinions, of course, but it seems like we all need another thread of 30 messages about who is be

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
Actually, when considering the out of box support for hardware, Linux has more drivers then Windows 2K/9x/Me. (For the sake of the people here, I'll simply ignore a certain Spyware OS). Both KDE and Mozilla are by far, more feature rich then the Microsoft (Internet) Explorer. Plus, well, Linux does

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Diego Iastrubni
there sure are. However, I can proove them wrong in linux. Anyway, updates in windows sux.. linux has a better update system (urpmi, atp-get, emrge). And about hebrew? Soon kde3 will have better hebrew support then windows, and when OO will be really usable, I will be even more glad. In BeOS,

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Ely Levy
Isn't it exactly what windows people tell linux users?:) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > talk to me when it will have kde+hebrew+mozilla+oo. > > Then we will talk about h/w > linux still is the best os for personal useag

Re: [OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Diego Iastrubni
talk to me when it will have kde+hebrew+mozilla+oo. Then we will talk about h/w linux still is the best os for personal useage: more drivers+app's, greater updates. IMHO. ביום שני, 2 ביוני 2003, 19:03, Mix Sella כתב: > This is offtopic. > > I know I'm doing a bad thing. > > I know it's the w

Re: RedHat 9 ISO image mirrors in Israel?

2003-06-03 Thread Guy Teverovsky
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 11:51, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: > > Beni Cherniavsky wrote: > Doron Ofek wrote on 2003-06-02: > > ftp://mirror.israel.net > > http://mirror.israel.net > > I've seen it. Fast but doesn't carry the ISO images, only individual > files. I wonder why doesn't RedHat (and all othe

[OT] BEOS IS ALIVE!!!!1!

2003-06-03 Thread Mix Sella
This is offtopic. I know I'm doing a bad thing. I know it's the wrong address. I know I shouldn't be doing that. But, BeOS is back and kicking! This is probably the best news in computer industry ever since porn FTPs. http://www.yellowtab.com/company/history.php I just had to. Sorry. -

[OT] Looking for a grandpa laptop

2003-06-03 Thread Eli Billauer
Hello all, I would like to spend 200 NIS or so on a laptop. Requirements: * 486 or Pentium @ 66 MHz * ~ 1 GB Hard disk * "laptop" = portable computer, something you can carry with you. * Doesn't have to be small. * Doesn't need to run on batteries. * May have defects, but must at least be stable