\mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Gianmaria Lari
This compiles well \version "2.19.65" \fixed c' { c4 c c d (c4) c c c } but when I add a \mark like this \version "2.19.65" \fixed c' { c4 c c d \mark "X" (c4) c c c } it doesn't. I know the problem is related to the slur and I can move the mark before d but why I should not be able to

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 14.09.2017 um 11:14 schrieb Gianmaria Lari: c4 c c d (c4) c c c […] c4 c c d \mark "X" (c4) c c c The start of slur belongs to the d, not the c. Writing d (c) is possible and equivalent to d( c) but the latter more clearly says what’s going on. You tried t

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Phil Holmes
It's not the position of the mark that is wrong - it's the slur. This applies to a note and so must follow the note immediately. Move the ( to the end of the previous line and all will be well. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Gianmaria Lari To: lilypond-user Sent

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn writes: > Am 14.09.2017 um 11:14 schrieb Gianmaria Lari: >>c4 c c d >>(c4) c c c > > […] > >>c4 c c d >>\mark "X" (c4) c c c > > The start of slur belongs to the d, not the c. > > Writing > d (c) > is possible and equivalent to > d( c) > but the latter more

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 14.09.2017 um 11:43 schrieb David Kastrup: Incidentally, current master delivers the following verbiage: GNU LilyPond 2.21.0 Processing `sll.ly' Parsing... sll.ly:4:13: warning: Adding <> for attaching loose post-event \mark "X" (c4) c c c Interpreting music... sll.ly:4:16:

How near is 2.20? [was: Re: \mark and slur]

2017-09-14 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 14.09.2017 um 11:43 schrieb David Kastrup: Incidentally, current master delivers the following verbiage: GNU LilyPond 2.21.0 […] Is that more helpful than previously? GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 This looks nice :) Do I understand correctly that after 2.19.65 follows 2.21.0 in the master br

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn writes: > Am 14.09.2017 um 11:43 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Incidentally, current master delivers the following verbiage: >> >> GNU LilyPond 2.21.0 >> Processing `sll.ly' >> Parsing... >> sll.ly:4:13: warning: Adding <> for attaching loose post-event >>\mark "X" >> (c4)

Re: How near is 2.20? [was: Re: \mark and slur]

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Malte Meyn writes: > Am 14.09.2017 um 11:43 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Incidentally, current master delivers the following verbiage: >> >> GNU LilyPond 2.21.0 > > […] > >> Is that more helpful than previously? >> >> GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 > > This looks nice :) Do I understand correctly that after 2

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Thank you Malte and Phil! It works well and your suggestion make sense. I normally didn't pay much attention to this thing, now I will. Gianmaria On 14 September 2017 at 11:27, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > Am 14.09.2017 um 11:14 schrieb Gianmaria Lari: > >>c4 c c d >>(c4) c c c >> > > […] >

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Gianmaria Lari
David Kastrup wrote: > People tend to ignore warnings > anyway. I personally ignore warnings only when I don't see them. And I normally don't see them when they are in a long list of other information (maybe written in small character etc. etc :)) Ciao, g. _

Re: Neapolitan chords & al.

2017-09-14 Thread Menu Jacques
One more point: there’s also ‘pedal’ in MusicXML: C pedal Is that just equivalent to having a usual pedal? JM > Le 13 sept. 2017 à 11:09, Menu Jacques a écrit : > > Hello Mike, > > Excellent, thanks! > > JM > >> Le 13 sept. 2017 à 10:27, Mi

frescobaldi print

2017-09-14 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Sorry to ask this that probably is a very trivial question, but I have not able to find a solution online. Is there any way to print the pdf file generated by lilypond directly from Frescobaldi? Thank you, g. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Rutger Hofman
But isn't the start time of this <> the start time of the c4 in the second line, so that <>( c4) is equivalent to c4(); which causes the warnings 'cannot end slur' for ')' and 'unterminated slur' for '('? My guess is that this insertion of <> makes things more complicated for us, unenlightened u

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Rutger Hofman writes: > But isn't the start time of this <> the start time of the c4 in the > second line, so that <>( c4) is equivalent to c4(); which causes the > warnings 'cannot end slur' for ')' and 'unterminated slur' for '('? Yes and yes. > My guess is that this insertion of <> makes thi

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Rutger Hofman writes: > >> My preference would be to clearly explain that '(' is an attribute of >> the note that directly precedes it. > > That's what the "loose post-event" bit is supposed to be about. > GNU LilyPond 2.21.0 Processing `sll.ly' Parsing...

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 14-09-17 15:57, David Kastrup wrote: David Kastrup writes: Rutger Hofman writes: My preference would be to clearly explain that '(' is an attribute of the note that directly precedes it. That's what the "loose post-event" bit is supposed to be about. Yes, I understand. But still, I f

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Shamus, Using: subtitle = \markup { \override #'(font-family . sans) { \center-column { C9 \fret-diagram-terse #"x;3;2;3;3;x;" } " " \center-column { "B7#9" \fret-diagram-terse #"x;2;1;2;3;x;" } " " \cen

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Rutger Hofman writes: > On 14-09-17 15:57, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Note: another component that may possibly be included in the warning >> message for this input would be "SlurEvent". Would >> >> sll.ly:4:13: warning: Adding <> for attaching loose SlurEvent >> \mark "X" >>

Re: frescobaldi print

2017-09-14 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 14.09.2017 um 12:49 schrieb Gianmaria Lari: Sorry to ask this that probably is a very trivial question, but I have not able to find a solution online. Is there any way to print the pdf file generated by lilypond directly from Frescobaldi? File → Print music … or Ctrl+P as in most applicat

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Shamus Hammons
This *does not* solve the issue--this is identical to what I attached to my previous email with the exception that you dropped the flat sign markup from the third chord (it should be Bbmaj7 with a real flat sign in it, not Bmaj7). Also, it does not solve the issue with the texts above the fretboard

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Robin Bannister
Shamus Hammons wrote: > > In the example I included, you can see that the text for the > > Bbmaj7 chord is rendered in pieces, and the chord names are generally > > farther above the diagrams than they should be. You are using \center-column to get these two things arranged vertically. It see

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Shamus Hammons
This gets closer, but the flat sign is sitting all by itself, as if it were a separate word and not part of the chord symbol (like so: "B b maj7"). Also, doesn't address the issue of the chord names floating too high above the diagrams. On 09/14/2017 11:26 AM, Robin Bannister wrote: > Shamus Hammo

Acciaccatura at the beginning

2017-09-14 Thread Marco B.
Hi to everybody, I'm a new user trying to learn this wonderful program. I'm making a transcription that starts with an acciaccatura and noticed it messes up everything in the other staves. I know it's a known problem but I need to find a solution. Can someone help? This is an example: \language "e

Re: Acciaccatura at the beginning

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Marco B." writes: > Hi to everybody, > I'm a new user trying to learn this wonderful program. > I'm making a transcription that starts with an acciaccatura and noticed it > messes up everything in the other staves. > I know it's a known problem Issue 34 > but I need to find a solution. Can som

The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. \time 2/4 c2 | c4. \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. This gives me the warning voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use \partial after the start of a piece but it works fine. Without the \partial, though, lilypond gets confused over the

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Robin Bannister
Shamus Hammons wrote: This gets closer, but the flat sign is sitting all by itself, as if it were a separate word and not part of the chord symbol (like so: "B b maj7"). OK, sorry. Instead of \line use \concat: \concat { "B" \chordFlat "maj7" } Also, doesn't address the issue of the chord n

Re: The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. > > \time 2/4 c2 | c4. > \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. > > This gives me the warning > > voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use \partial after the start of > a piece > > but it works fine. I don't get a warning

Re: The proper way to change time signature in the middle of a bar?

2017-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/09/17 18:30, David Kastrup wrote: > Wols Lists writes: > >> I've got a piece of music where I'm doing the following .. >> >> \time 2/4 c2 | c4. >> \time 6/8 \partial 8 c8 | c2. >> >> This gives me the warning >> >> voiceStaff.ily:38:2: warning: trying to use \partial after the start of >> a

RE: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Gianmaria, Try c4 c c d (c4^\markup {"X"}) c c c Mark From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Gianmaria Lari Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:14 AM To: lilypond-user Subject: \mark and slur This compiles well \vers

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Noeck
Hi, > warning: Adding <> for attaching loose post-event I would understand it best if the warning said any of: Cannot attach slur to preceding expression Slur is not attached to note or chord Cannot attach slur to note or chord No note or chord before this slur to attach it to (is that English?)

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > Try > > c4 c c d > >(c4^\markup {"X"}) c c c Shrug. If you insist on that kind of organization you can try \version "2.19.65" \fixed c' { c4 c c d (\mark "X" c4) c c c } But it's really a delusion you are getting and becomes rather strained once

Re: Help with chord dictionaries

2017-09-14 Thread Shamus Hammons
That works perfectly. Thank you! On 09/14/2017 12:18 PM, Robin Bannister wrote: > Shamus Hammons wrote: > >> This gets closer, but the flat sign is sitting all by itself, as if it >> were a separate word and not part of the chord symbol (like so: "B b >> maj7"). > > OK, sorry. Instead of \line u

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Hi, > >> warning: Adding <> for attaching loose post-event > > I would understand it best if the warning said any of: > > Cannot attach slur to preceding expression > Slur is not attached to note or chord > Cannot attach slur to note or chord > No note or chord before this slur to

RE: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
David, What I presented was a suggestion that "worked." In no way, shape, or form was it an "insistence." With sincere respect for your work, Mark -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:10 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: 'Gian

Re: Acciaccatura at the beginning

2017-09-14 Thread Marco B.
Thank you David, I've found it Marco Il giorno gio 14 set 2017 alle ore 19:06 David Kastrup ha scritto: > "Marco B." writes: > > > Hi to everybody, > > I'm a new user trying to learn this wonderful program. > > I'm making a transcription that starts with an acciaccatura and noticed > it > > me

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Noeck
Hi, > Note or chord or rest or skip or bass figure or cluster note or lyrics > or multimeasure rest. Something like that. :) > Slur or phrasing slur or absolute dynamic or annote output or arpeggio > or articulation or beam or beam forbid or bendafter or crescendo or > decrescendo or episema or

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Hi, > >> Note or chord or rest or skip or bass figure or cluster note or lyrics >> or multimeasure rest. Something like that. > > :) > >> Slur or phrasing slur or absolute dynamic or annote output or arpeggio >> or articulation or beam or beam forbid or bendafter or crescendo or

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: \mark and slur >> >> "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: >> >>> Try >>> >>> c4 c c d >>> >>>(c4^\markup {"X"}) c c c >> >> Shrug. If you insist on that kind of organization you can try >> >> \version "

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> From: Noeck > Hi, > > > warning: Adding <> for attaching loose post-event > > I would understand it best if the warning said any of: > > Cannot attach slur to preceding expression > Slur is not attached to note or chord > Cannot attach slur to note or chord > No note or chord before this slur to

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi David, I know played a little with your fix issue 5181 On current topic: 2017-09-14 15:57 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > David Kastrup writes: > Note: another component that may possibly be included in the warning > message for this input would be "SlurEvent". Would > > sll.ly:4:13: warni

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > I'd go for post-event(s) > Plural, because there may be more than one. See example below But every one gets its own warning, so each warning is only for one. > But > { -\3 -\rightHandFinger #2 d'4 } > issues the warning, the image doesn't contain the post-events, though.

RE: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
David, Understood. Thank you. Mark -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:52 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: 'Gianmaria Lari' ; 'lilypond-user' Subject: Re: \mark and slur "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David Kastrup [mailt

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-09-15 0:25 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > Thomas Morley writes: > >> I'd go for post-event(s) >> Plural, because there may be more than one. See example below > > But every one gets its own warning, so each warning is only for one. Well, then I'd expect two warnings for: { \fermata -- d' } beca

Re: \mark and slur

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2017-09-15 0:25 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : >> Thomas Morley writes: >> >>> I'd go for post-event(s) >>> Plural, because there may be more than one. See example below >> >> But every one gets its own warning, so each warning is only for one. > > Well, then I'd expect two wa

RE: Acciaccatura at the beginning

2017-09-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Marco, To make the staves line up, place a “dummy” acciaccatura, in the “other” voice. It would be \acciaccatura s32. Mark From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Marco B. Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:57 AM To: lilypond-user

Re: Acciaccatura at the beginning

2017-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > Marco, > > > > To make the staves line up, place a “dummy” acciaccatura, in the “other” > voice. > > It would be \acciaccatura s32. From the manual: Please make sure that you use the ‘\grace’ command for the spacer part, even if the visual part uses