"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> Thomas Morley,
>
> Thank you for your extensive and detailed reply.
> The time and knowledge that you spent on my inquiry indicates a real,
> and appreciated, desire to assist.
Yes and no. You'll find that most of the work in that reply was _not_
invested in assi
2016-08-22 0:20 GMT+02:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek :
> I do not know the intricacies of Lilypond and
> therefore am unable to distinguish what code can be eliminated to create a
> "minimal."
Remembering the time I started with LilyPond, things went wrong pretty
often. I had no clue why and ofcourse I w
Thomas Morley writes:
> At some point while creating a minimal example you may get:
>
> <<
> \time 4/4
> \key bes \major
> \new Voice { s1 }
> \new Voice { s1 }
>>>
>
> Now all voices (those you explicitely create _and_ the others) are not
> longer forced to be in one Staff.
> (Though I'm
>
> In a nutshell, they aren't. Once Guile 2.0.12 becomes available in
> Ubuntu _or_ works reasonably well non-installed, there may be some more
> attempt to get this to work, until the next Guile flaws not sanely
> addressable in LilyPond are discovered and one has to wait for the next
> Guile re
Hi Mark,
Do your files require a version later than they claim (2.19.45)?
I’m running 2.19.46, and I get
>warning: cannot find property type-check for `keep-alive-group'
> (backend-type?). perhaps a typing error?
Thanks,
Kieren.
On Aug 21, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Mark Knoop wrote:
> I've j
On Mon 22 Aug 2016 at 08:38:38 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote:
> Andrew Yoon writes:
>
> > There are certainly many options to explore, many of them quite simple. At
> > any rate, over the next few days I'll take a crack at something and see
> > what people think. Should future discussions about th
At 12:01 on 22 Aug 2016, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>
>> Yes, sorry, they require a version built with the 3rd patchset here
>
>Ah…
>
>> that's why I also attached the pdfs,
>> so you can see the results without compiling.
>
>I was hoping to try it out on my real-world choral example, so
Thomas,
Ah yes, trial and error, it has been my means of leaning most everything. And
no less in learning Lilypond. Before submitting any request some time (and
frustration) was spend on consulting manual, adding/deleting, moving, and just
cussing at the screen (Frescobaldi provides immediate f
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> The two lines have been used toe "rebuild" the template. Yet the
> acciaccatura problem still exists! My solution: eliminate the
> acciaccatura and get on with the rest of the score.
In this case, the acciacatura has not even been a part of the problem,
so I am su
David,
And it would have been "visible" if the file I attached had been viewed
rather than dismissed as not being "minimal." Reminds me Aesop fable of the
Fox and the Grapes.
Mark
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From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:50 AM
To: Mark
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 03:25:10PM +0300, Heikki Tauriainen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 2016-08-19 at 10:16 -0700, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > I've been using lilypond from git HEAD (mainly because lilypond in
> > my distro is too old, still stuck at 2.18, and I need features and
> > fixes in 2.19), and re
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> David,
>
> And it would have been "visible" if the file I attached had been viewed
> rather than dismissed as not being "minimal." Reminds me Aesop fable of the
> Fox and the Grapes.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. The symptoms of the
grace sy
David,
Thank you for your continued effort to instruct me in this matter.
I am amazed/surprised/confounded on the amount of time and effort that has
been expended on a justification of the "minimal" requirement what could
have been spent on just viewing (via Frescobaldi not a PDF) the "errors" in
> I am amazed/surprised/confounded on the amount of time and effort
> that has been expended on a justification of the "minimal"
> requirement what could have been spent on just viewing (via
> Frescobaldi not a PDF) the "errors" in my code. (Wow that was a run
> on!).
Mark,
we try to *educate*
Werner,
Thank you for your input into this matter.
Some comments amaze me:
"pretending to be a novice"
"you should already know"
"sounds like a lame excuse"
"it isn't rocket science"
Even my parents were not so patronizing!
Mark
-Original Message-
From:
Mark,
On 8/22/16 1:49 PM, "Mark Stephen Mrotek" wrote:
>May I suggest that if my, or any other beginners, snippet is not minimal
>enough for any reader, that the reader just close out the e-mail?
Are you really asking us to ignore your emails if you don't provide tiny
examples?
I think that wi
Carl,
The concept of "minimal" is rather subjective. I really do not know how to
quantify it. The only current indication is some nebulous reference to
number of lines.
As I mentioned in another response, I do not know what is "essential" in a
snippet. How do I know that the two line "solution" co
> Some comments amaze me:
> "pretending to be a novice"
> "you should already know"
> "sounds like a lame excuse"
> "it isn't rocket science"
>
> Even my parents were not so patronizing!
Well, English is not my mother tongue, and I can't reply with such
elegant and poli
2016-08-22 18:38 GMT+02:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek :
> The two line "solution" does provide the desired "print out," yet in
> isolation. When inserted into the entire score (Piano of two staves) it
> creates the same multiple time/key signatures as my coding. This leads me to
> question the benefit
On 22 August 2016 at 22:30, Mark Stephen Mrotek
wrote:
> The concept of "minimal" is rather subjective.
It's not subjective; it is described here:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
"an example from which nothing can be removed"
Producing a minimal example doesn't require power user skills
Hi. I'm new to lilypond. I've read through much of the manual and I
have a few questions outstanding.
1) Can lilypond do Nashville style chords?
I mean, I'm sure it can, one way or another. What I'm really asking is
if it is as simple as it is to do regular chords. Or what might be
involved.
Werner,
Apology accepted.
"Minimal" is a rather subjective term. Someone might regard 10 lines as too
much, while another would willing work with 25 - or more.
As I mentioned elsewhere, I do not know what sufficient, or necessary, i.e ,
what should be included and what can be deleted.
I have done
Kevin,
Agreed. Amen
Mark
From: Kevin Barry [mailto:barr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:12 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: Carl Sorensen ; David Kastrup ; Thomas
Morley ; lilypond-user
Subject: Re: that acciaccatura issue
On 22 August 2016 at 22:30, Mark Stephen
> What hinders you *in trying* to create a minimum example?
>
1) Because it is veers toward being a ridiculous and arbitrary criteria.
Speaking for myself, the example presented in this case was ***clearly***
small enough to debug. In my opinion, anyone saying otherwise either has
a tangential a
>> What hinders you *in trying* to create a minimum example?
>
> [...]
>
> I understand the intention of the requests (although not demands)
> for minimal examples. But, as someone who has spent a lifetime
> developing and debugging code, I can assure you that these demands
> are strictly unnece
2016-08-23 1:43 GMT+02:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek :
> Thomas,
>
> Thank you for your continued time and work.
>
> May I suggest that you take the code and display it through Frescobaldi? You
> shall see that the instrument name (Var. IX) does not appear.
>
> Mark
Hi Mark,
be ensured I always compile
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