Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
please send short code samples which compile and illustrate the problem! \harmonicsOn/Off seem to work at a Voice level, so writing \new Voice {\harmonicsOn … \harmonicsOff … } will probably do it I think there are more solutions to this on this list but I don't remember exactly where I saw tha

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this, but I'd be willing >> to send somebody some money via Paypal to add the so-called "Haydn >> turn" (reversed turn with vertical slash) to Lilypond. > > Please provide a scan (or a link to it) of such a symbol which you > c

Re: context and lilypond

2013-01-21 Thread Wim van Dommelen
On 20 Jan 2013, at 12:45 , Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Move? The snippet buffers are just numbered, so if you insert one before the first, all others will get re-rendered, too. I guess we could change that behaviour, e.g. use keywords or some UID per buffer. I’ll discuss that wi

Re: Feature request? (and bug report)

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
Jim Long writes: > Please forgive my earlier example, which I had not tested > thoroughly. > > Consider the example below instead, and the attached output. > > It shows some variations that could be useful when storing > musical phrases in a variable, while retaining some flexibility > with ties

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/1/21 David Kastrup : > By the way: how is the relation to other music fonts? If we invent a > new articulation, music fonts from other sources will not know about it, > or we won't know about what they have. And even if we puzzle > articulations together from pieces, they won't fit together

Re: page footer and (on-page ...) in combination with \label

2013-01-21 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 21.01.2013 06:40, schrieb Jay Anderson: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Marc Hohl wrote: For one specific page I have to remove the footer completely. I set \label #'emptypage Can the page without a footer be in a book-part of its own? That would be too simple so I'm assuming not. Correc

Re: Syntax for make-dynamic-script

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
David Kastrup writes: > Colin Hall writes: > >> David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: >> >>> >>> Richard Shann virgin.net> writes: >>> >>> > On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 00:58 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >>> > I guess this $ notation is documented somewhere - searching around >>> > yesterday evening I cam

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
Michael Rivers writes: > I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this Enhancement requests should be sent to bug-lilypond. I've included bug-lilypond on this reply to your post, so it is taken care of now. @bugsquad See Michael's original post on lilypond-user. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin

Re: Syntax for make-dynamic-script

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Hall writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Colin Hall writes: >> >>> David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: >>> Richard Shann virgin.net> writes: > On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 00:58 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > I guess this $ notation is documented somewhere - searching arou

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> If an existing symbol can be reused, implementing this is rather >> straightforward, and a few hours of work will do. A design from >> scratch probably needs three or four times as long. > > By the way: how is the relation to other music fonts? If we invent > a new articulation, music fonts

Re: context and lilypond

2013-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-01-21 um 10:05 schrieb Wim van Dommelen: >> The snippet buffers are just numbered, so if you insert one before the >> first, all others will get re-rendered, too. >> I guess we could change that behaviour, e.g. use keywords or some UID per >> buffer. >> I’ll discuss that with Aditya (aut

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> If an existing symbol can be reused, implementing this is rather >>> straightforward, and a few hours of work will do. A design from >>> scratch probably needs three or four times as long. >> >> By the way: how is the relation to other music fonts? If we invent >> a

Re: Circled rehearsal mark size

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Vaylor Trucks-2 wrote > As you can see, when using circled numbered rehearsal marks the size of > the > circle must, by necessity, go up when you enter double digits. Is there > any > way to make the circle for rehearsal marks 1-9 the same size as the circle > for rehearsal marks 10-99 without

Re: Bug?: position of repeat bars for volta in lyrics

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Frank Steinmetzger wrote > I'd like to ask after which rule repeat bars are placed that belong to > volta > repeats in lyrics blocks. > > Until now my observation was that volta repeats in a lyrics block cause > the > respective |: :| bars to appear as tightly around the enclosed lyrics as > possi

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > I'm trying to stretch a ragged last bar in a score. > I know I can use the following override (NR 4.5.1, Known issues): > > > \relative c'' { >\repeat unfold 4 { R1*4 \break } >\override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 >R1 R1 > } > > However, I need

Re: \bar "||" and \repeat around a line break

2013-01-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/1/19 David Kastrup : > Jim Long writes: > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic. >> >> I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this >> thread for which I must apologize. >

Re: How to add markings to a percent repeat?

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
ryanmichaelmcclure wrote > Is it possible to add either dynamics or markup to a percent repeat? I > have a measure which is repeated 7 times with the following command: > > \repeat percent 7 {a8\p\staccato e'8\staccato a,8\staccato e'8\staccato} > > I want to add a crescendo (\cresc) on the 7th r

Re: How to add markings to a percent repeat?

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze writes: > ryanmichaelmcclure wrote >> Is it possible to add either dynamics or markup to a percent repeat? I >> have a measure which is repeated 7 times with the following command: >> >> \repeat percent 7 {a8\p\staccato e'8\staccato a,8\staccato e'8\staccato} >> >> I want to add a crescen

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Noeck
Am 21.01.2013 09:16, schrieb Eluze: > \harmonicsOn/Off seem to work at a Voice level, so writing > \new Voice {\harmonicsOn … \harmonicsOff … } > will probably do it As you say, it works with '\new Voice' but does not without. I always thought that implicitely a Voice context is created and that

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Am 21.01.2013 09:16, schrieb Eluze: >> \harmonicsOn/Off seem to work at a Voice level, so writing >> \new Voice {\harmonicsOn … \harmonicsOff … } >> will probably do it > > As you say, it works with '\new Voice' but does not without. > I always thought that implicitely a Voice con

Re: Syntax for make-dynamic-script

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
David Kastrup writes: > Colin Hall writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> Colin Hall writes: >>> David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: > > Richard Shann virgin.net> writes: > > > On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 00:58 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > I guess this $ notation is

Re: context and lilypond

2013-01-21 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Wim, what do You mean by "use the md5"? Is it a directory, a command? I have no idea! Sorry, I'm not an tex-expert, altough I work frequently with latex. Could you use the md5? In one of the temporary files it is already stored, so it is calculated (file xxx.tmp.md5 contains the md5 hash of x

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Neil Puttock
On 21 January 2013 13:19, David Kastrup wrote: > When? \harmonicsOn is not a context creating command. It used to be when it was a simple override. > \new Staff \with { \harmonicsOn } ... > > but that has not always been the case. Of course, this doesn't apply to any command which uses \overr

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/1/21 Eluze > Federico Bruni-5 wrote > > I'm trying to stretch a ragged last bar in a score. > > I know I can use the following override (NR 4.5.1, Known issues): > > > > > > \relative c'' { > >\repeat unfold 4 { R1*4 \break } > >\override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 > >

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Noeck
Am 21.01.2013 14:19, schrieb David Kastrup: > Noeck writes: >> Am 21.01.2013 09:16, schrieb Eluze: >>> \harmonicsOn/Off seem to work at a Voice level, so writing >>> \new Voice {\harmonicsOn … \harmonicsOff … } >>> will probably do it >> >> As you say, it works with '\new Voice' but does not wit

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > I meant: NonMusicalPaperColumn works only in the Score context. > These override(s) won't work: > > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 > \override Voice.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 but \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 does it - or n

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/1/21 Eluze > Federico Bruni-5 wrote > > I meant: NonMusicalPaperColumn works only in the Score context. > > These override(s) won't work: > > > > \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 > > \override Voice.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 > > but > > \override Score.NonMusicalPaperC

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Am 21.01.2013 14:19, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Noeck writes: >>> Am 21.01.2013 09:16, schrieb Eluze: \harmonicsOn/Off seem to work at a Voice level, so writing \new Voice {\harmonicsOn … \harmonicsOff … } will probably do it >>> >>> As you say, it works with '\new

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > But I need to use that override in a voice context. in your original example \relative c'' { \repeat unfold 4 { R1*4 \break } \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 R1 R1 } by the time you override the /Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding/ you *

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Noeck
Am 21.01.2013 15:08, schrieb David Kastrup: > > \new Staff { \harmonicsOn a \context Staff \harmonicsOff a } I know that there are ways to achieve it. > >>> \new Staff \with { \harmonicsOn } ... >> With that syntax being possible with the current version, I would >> suggest to consider a chan

Re: \harmonicsOff

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
David Kastrup wrote > > The Staff settings don't override the Voice settings, but \harmonicsOff > just clears out the current settings in the current context. And there > are none in Voice to clear. Try > > \new Staff { \harmonicsOn a \context Staff \harmonicsOff a } I don't think this is expl

RE: General bar setup for score

2013-01-21 Thread Maarten de Keijzer
>-Oorspronkelijk bericht- >Van: james [mailto:james.lilyp...@googlemail.com] >Verzonden: zaterdag 19 januari 2013 11:48 >Aan: Maarten de Keijzer >CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org >Onderwerp: Re: General bar setup for score > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Maarten de Keijzer wrote: >> Am 1

Midi repeats

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Gentry
The individual music files all contain volta repeats and the score pdf is produced correctly but the MIDI output does not include repeats. Where am I going wrong. \version "2.16.0" \score { \unfoldRepeats << << \new Staff = "Oboe" << \new Voice = "Flute" {

Re: Midi repeats

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
"Peter Gentry" writes: > The individual music files all contain volta repeats and the score pdf > is produced correctly but the MIDI output does not include repeats. Maybe the individual music files (of which you show none) don't contain volta repeats. You can let bars look like a volta repeat,

RE: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 122, Issue 137

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Gentry
Yes the individual files all contain volta repeats. Ireally didn't think you would appreciate all the files! >-Original Message- >From: >lilypond-user-bounces+peter.gentry=sunscales.co...@gnu.org >[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+peter.gentry=sunscales.co.uk@gnu. >org] On Behalf Of lilypo

RE: No MIDI repeats7

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Gentry
Please find the files attached. > >Maybe the individual music files (of which you show none) don't contain >volta repeats. You can let bars look like a volta repeat, but unless >you actually write \repeat volta 2 ..., the music is not a >volta repeat. > >-- >David Kastrup > > %StartMarker % Ge

RE:No MIDI repeats

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Gentry
Blast. Ignore me the converted files haven't all been edited . You were correct... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: No MIDI repeats7

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Please don't reply to message digests but rather to individual mails. Please don't quote everything indiscriminately (people are perfectly able to use the mailing list archives if they require full information) but just what is relevant to your reply. "Peter Gentry" writes: >>Maybe the individu

Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
Hello, I recently have switched to Texmaker for all my LaTeX document needs and can't for the life of me figure out how to include LilyPond code in my articles. I end up having to import PNGs of my scores but I prefer to just put LilyPond code in the LaTeX document as it's quicker for me. I can'

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound writes: > Hello, > > I recently have switched to Texmaker for all my LaTeX document needs and > can't for the life of me figure out how to include LilyPond code in my > articles. Have you tried reading the documentation? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/usage/an-e

Re: The alignment of staves / systems

2013-01-21 Thread Rustik
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > Have a look here: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables#list-of-flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables Thank you very much! Problem solution looks like this: \paper { last-bottom-spacing = #'(( bas

Re: prall with accidental

2013-01-21 Thread Jérôme Plût
Decimo tertio Kalendas Februarias MMXIII scripsit Werner LEMBERG : > Yeah, this looks like a good syntax suggestion. Is a Scheme solution > possible, or does this need a C++ extension? It seems that this requires a C++ extension. Namely, \key only generates a KeyChangeEvent, so Scheme macros cann

Re: The alignment of staves / systems

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 19:20, Rustik ha scritto: Federico Bruni-5 wrote Have a look here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables#list-of-flexible-vertical-spacing-_005cpaper-variables Thank you very much! Problem solution looks like this: \

Re: The alignment of staves / systems

2013-01-21 Thread Rustik
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > last-bottom-spacing is what you're looking for, isn't it? Yes, it is. Thank you! It was necessary to understand. And what about last page? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/The-alignment-of-staves-systems-tp139536p139898.html Sent f

Re: The alignment of staves / systems

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 20:14, Rustik ha scritto: Federico Bruni-5 wrote last-bottom-spacing is what you're looking for, isn't it? Yes, it is. Thank you! It was necessary to understand. And what about last page? I guess you want to stretch down the last systems. Use: ragged-last-bottom = ##f It's d

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
Hi David, Yes, sorry for not being clear in my initial post. I had done the examples on that page and they resulted in the LilyPond score not appearing in my LaTeX document. That's when I decided to post here. Is there some path/link that I have to setup in Texmaker prior to being able to just

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
If this helps, here is what it says: David Kastrup wrote > SoundsFromSound < > soundsfromsound@ > > writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I recently have switched to Texmaker for all my LaTeX document needs and >> can't for the life of m

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 15:44, Eluze ha scritto: Federico Bruni-5 wrote But I need to use that override in a voice context. in your original example \relative c'' { \repeat unfold 4 { R1*4 \break } \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 R1 R1 } by the time you override the /Sc

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 21:10, SoundsFromSound ha scritto: If this helps, here is what it says: you can't process lilypond code directly in LaTeX, you must use lilypond-book first. Have you read this page? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/

Re: prall with accidental

2013-01-21 Thread David Kastrup
Jérôme Plût writes: > Decimo tertio Kalendas Februarias MMXIII scripsit Werner LEMBERG : >> Yeah, this looks like a good syntax suggestion. Is a Scheme solution >> possible, or does this need a C++ extension? > > It seems that this requires a C++ extension. > Namely, \key only generates a KeyCha

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
Oh, I'm not sure how I missed that sorry. I'm still a bit confused but I'll look more at that page. Thanks, Ben Federico Bruni-5 wrote > Il 21/01/2013 21:10, SoundsFromSound ha scritto: >> If this helps, here is what it says: >> >>

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread pls
I'm only guessing but perhaps you should have a look at http://lilypond.org/macos-x.html?! Did you set up a helper script called lilypond-book and did you make it executable? hth p Am 21.01.2013 um 21:10 schrieb SoundsFromSound : > If this helps, here is what it says: > >

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 21 January 2013 21:14, Federico Bruni wrote: > > (snip) > > Maybe it's just the wrong workaround for what I'm trying to achieve? Hi Federico, I see you this Voice contains MultiMeasureRest in the part you want to stretch. I'd suggest using \override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #20

Re: context and lilypond

2013-01-21 Thread Julien Rioux
On 20/01/2013 6:12 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: I thought LilyPond used to write single EPS for every line when using lilypond-book. (I’d like to do the page breaking with TeX.) Do I mis-remember? I couldn’t find an appropriate command line switch. I think you accomplish that by adding this

Re: strange output with lilypond book

2013-01-21 Thread Julien Rioux
On 20/01/2013 4:35 AM, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Julien, the problem is the input command in latex. Without it (when I define the commands in the document itself), the pdf looks good but if the file is included, every bar of the music uses a single line. I would like to avoid it an I would like t

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 22:20, Xavier Scheuer ha scritto: I see you this Voice contains MultiMeasureRest in the part you want to stretch. I'd suggest using \override MultiMeasureRest #'minimum-length = #20 in order to increase the space take by these measures. It works great, but multimeasure rests a

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
I'm on a PC, the link you posted seems to be Mac? Also, no I have not made a script - should/how can I? Ben pls-2 wrote > I'm only guessing but perhaps you should have a look at > http://lilypond.org/macos-x.html?! Did you set up a helper script called > lilypond-book and did you make it execut

Re: strange output with lilypond book

2013-01-21 Thread Julien Rioux
On 18/01/2013 4:56 PM, Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear community, when I compile the following file with latex and lilypondbook, it looks quite strange. There's is a break after every bar of the lilypond example. I think it has to do with the input-command. Here is the code of the latex-file: \docume

Re: Midi repeats

2013-01-21 Thread Johan Vromans
"Peter Gentry" writes: > Where am I going wrong. You apply \unfoldRepeats to the score, which is probably not what you want. All repeats will be spelled out in the print. It is better to assign your music to a variable myMusic = { << ... >> } and use two \score blocks: \score { \myM

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 21/01/2013 22:33, SoundsFromSound ha scritto: I'm on a PC, the link you posted seems to be Mac? Also, no I have not made a script - should/how can I? he probably confused Texmaker with TextMate (an editor for Mac) -- Federico ___ lilypond-user m

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread pls
Am 21.01.2013 um 22:39 schrieb Federico Bruni : > Il 21/01/2013 22:33, SoundsFromSound ha scritto: >> I'm on a PC, the link you posted seems to be Mac? >> >> Also, no I have not made a script - should/how can I? Then you don't need to make a script but you have to make sure that the folder whic

Re: context and lilypond

2013-01-21 Thread Wim van Dommelen
Hi Stefan, Sorry for my slow reply. On 21 Jan 2013, at 14:40 , Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Wim, what do You mean by "use the md5"? Is it a directory, a command? I have no idea! Sorry, I'm not an tex-expert, altough I work frequently with latex. MD5 is an abbreviation of Message Digest Algo

Re: Texmaker & LilyPond

2013-01-21 Thread SoundsFromSound
Thank you for the help, I'll double check the path. pls-2 wrote > Am 21.01.2013 um 22:39 schrieb Federico Bruni < > fedelogy@ > >: > >> Il 21/01/2013 22:33, SoundsFromSound ha scritto: >>> I'm on a PC, the link you posted seems to be Mac? >>> >>> Also, no I have not made a script - should/how

Re: stretching ragged last bar in the Voice context

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
Federico Bruni-5 wrote > Il 21/01/2013 15:44, Eluze ha scritto: >> Federico Bruni-5 wrote >>> But I need to use that override in a voice context. >> >> in your original example >> >> \relative c'' { >> \repeat unfold 4 { R1*4 \break } >> \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.padding = #20 >

Re: How to add markings to a percent repeat?

2013-01-21 Thread Eluze
David Kastrup wrote > Eluze < > eluzew@ > > writes: > >> ryanmichaelmcclure wrote >>> Is it possible to add either dynamics or markup to a percent repeat? I >>> have a measure which is repeated 7 times with the following command: >>> >>> \repeat percent 7 {a8\p\staccato e'8\staccato a,8\staccat

Re: Feature request? (and bug report)

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
Colin Hall writes: > Jim Long writes: > >> Please forgive my earlier example, which I had not tested >> thoroughly. >> >> Consider the example below instead, and the attached output. >> >> It shows some variations that could be useful when storing >> musical phrases in a variable, while retaining

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
Colin Hall writes: > Michael Rivers writes: > >> I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this > > Enhancement requests should be sent to bug-lilypond. > > I've included bug-lilypond on this reply to your post, so it is taken > care of now. > > @bugsquad > See Michael's original post on lilypo

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Hall
Colin Hall writes: > Michael Rivers writes: > >> I'm not sure if this the right place to ask this > > Enhancement requests should be sent to bug-lilypond. > > I've included bug-lilypond on this reply to your post, so it is taken > care of now. > > @bugsquad > See Michael's original post on lilypo

Re: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Jeffrey Trevino
"So what's the sanest course with regard to new articulations?" >From the perspective of contemporary music, the sanest course is to provide basic utilities for drawing arbitrarily complex symbols in specified locations, which Lilypond sort of does/doesn't have. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM,

RE: Requesting an addition

2013-01-21 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
A commentary on various interpretations of Haydn’s ornaments in general and the “turn” in particular can be read at: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=28410.0 Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@