Re: Changing the length of partial beams

2010-12-30 Thread Jan Warchoł
Hi, 2010/12/29 Sven Axelsson : > Since having great success in getting an answer for my last question > to the list, here's another: > > In a grace note sequence such as \grace { \small g32[ e8 d32] }, the > gap between the stem of the e8 and the beams of the 32 notes is very > small. Is there a t

SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration doesn't work as expected? Compressing a score horizontally

2010-12-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, I want to compress the score in attachment horizontally, in particular i want the sixteenth coloraturas to be packed more dense. I added \context { \Score \override SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) } and nothing happened. Looks like i can only widen the

Re: SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration doesn't work as expected? Compressing a score horizontally

2010-12-30 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2010/12/30 Janek Warchoł : > > Hi, > > I want to compress the score in attachment horizontally, in particular > i want the sixteenth coloraturas to be packed more dense. I added > \context { >\Score \override SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = > #(ly:make-moment 1 4) > } > and nothi

Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
Just checking - you can obviously do what you want from a presentation perspective, since you've provided an example that looks like it came from LilyPond. I presume you did this using chords, but you want to avoid using chords in your application? The way I would do this would be to use: \o

Re: SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration doesn't work as expected?Compressing a score horizontally

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "lilypond-user" Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration doesn't work as expected?Compressing a score horizontally Hi, I want to compress the score in attachment horizontally, in part

\underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Hello all, I have a task to underline a part of the text in \addlyrics block. I found \addlyrics{ aa- \markup { \underline bb- } cc- dd } and it works but underline only one item. Repeating this pattern does not solve the task because I need a continuous line. The syntax \addlyrics{ aa- \markup

RE: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread James Lowe
Sven, It would be nice I think, to have an example of a before and after (perhaps) on the LSR for other users. I can see this having some other application than just for bagpipe music. regards James From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore...

Re: SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration doesn't work as expected? Compressing a score horizontally

2010-12-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2010/12/30 Xavier Scheuer : > 2010/12/30 Janek Warchoł : >> >> Hi, >> >> I want to compress the score in attachment horizontally, in particular >> i want the sixteenth coloraturas to be packed more dense. I added >> \context { >>        \Score \override SpacingSpanner  #'base-shortest-duration = >>

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Nikolay Kirov" To: "LilyPond User Group" Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:54 AM Subject: \underline in lyrics Hello all, I have a task to underline a part of the text in \addlyrics block. I found \addlyrics{ aa- \markup { \underline bb- } cc- dd } an

Re: Changing the length of partial beams

2010-12-30 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 30 December 2010 10:45, Jan Warchoł wrote: > 2010/12/29 Sven Axelsson : >> Since having great success in getting an answer for my last question >> to the list, here's another: >> >> In a grace note sequence such as \grace { \small g32[ e8 d32] }, the >> gap between the stem of the e8 and the be

Re: Changing the length of partial beams

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" Aha, perfect! This has been most fortunate. I have posed these questions to the list previously, but couldn't get any good answers then. Now both my remaining problems with achieving perfect bagpipe notation have been adressed. Happy, happy, joy

Re: Changing the length of partial beams

2010-12-30 Thread Sven Axelsson
2010/12/30 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" >> >> Aha, perfect! This has been most fortunate. I have posed these >> questions to the list previously, but couldn't get any good answers >> then. Now both my remaining problems with achieving perfect bagpipe >> notati

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Nikolay Kirov
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Nikolay Kirov" > To: "LilyPond User Group" > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:54 AM > Subject: \underline in lyrics > > >> Hello all, >> >> I have a task to underline a part of the text in \addlyrics bl

Updating bagpipe.ly [was Changing the length of partial beams]

2010-12-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Sven Axelsson wrote Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:30 PM 2010/12/30 Phil Holmes : - Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" Aha, perfect! This has been most fortunate. I have posed these questions to the list previously, but couldn't get any good answers then. Now both my remainin

Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?

2010-12-30 Thread Tobias Braun
Sorry about the "reply all" thing, I forgot that. I wasn't aware I was sending an HTML e-mail, sorry. That must have been my webmail client. What I actually want to achieve is to have it look as uncluttered as possible. It should be easy to read when playing it on the piano. I'd basically like

Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
Hi Tobias, This topic is also of interest to me, so I googled for "lilypond piano reduction" and eventual found the vocal template with automatic piano reduction, from which I derived the example below. It uses \partcombine which, perhaps unfortunately, takes only two arguments. However, I found

Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread James Lowe
Hello all you 'Ancient Music' specialists! I am currently re-organizing the Ancient Music section in the Notation Reference which includes some standardization to bring things into line with current documentation policy and other sections. As I don't know that much about the terminology and

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 30 December 2010 12:34, James Lowe wrote: > It would be nice I think, to have an example of a before and after (perhaps) > on the LSR for other users. > > I can see this having some other application than just for bagpipe music. An example snippet has been added to the snippet database as Non

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/12/30 James Lowe : > Hello all you 'Ancient Music' specialists! > > I am currently re-organizing the Ancient Music section in the Notation > Reference which includes some standardization to bring things into line with > current documentation policy and other sections. > > > > As I don't know

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Federico Bruni
If you want a continuous line you should put the text inside "". Il giorno 30/dic/2010 11.55, "Nikolay Kirov" ha scritto: > Hello all, > > I have a task to underline a part of the text in \addlyrics block. > I found > \addlyrics{ aa- \markup { \underline bb- } cc- dd } > and it works but underline

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:58 PM 2010/12/30 James Lowe : I am currently re-organizing the Ancient Music section in the Notation Reference which includes some standardization to bring things into line with current documentation policy and other sections. As I don

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 30. Dezember 2010, um 18:02:25 schrieb Federico Bruni: > If you want a continuous line you should put the text inside "". I don't think that's what Nikolay actually wants. I think he wants the exact opposite: He wants to underline several consecutive syllables (assigned to several

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" To: "James Lowe" Cc: "LilyPond User Group" Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing On 30 December 2010 12:34, James Lowe wrote: It would be nice I think, to have an example of a before and afte

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 30 December 2010 18:51, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" >> On 30 December 2010 12:34, James Lowe wrote: >>> >>> It would be nice I think, to have an example of a before and after >>> (perhaps) on the LSR for other users. >>> >>> I can see this having so

Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2010-12-30 Thread James Bailey
On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:59 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > What's up with the recent bout of "social networking" address > harvesters? Are there real persons stupid enough to send "invitations" > to all their contacts including mailing lists? If so, one really should > pull their internet licenses.

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 30 December 2010 19:05, Sven Axelsson wrote: > > Hmm, running that snippet locally puts the g:s at the second line, but > at the LSR site they are shown below the system. Interesting. Wouldn't it be better (i.e. more understandable) with a grace-note group with a rhythm made of different value

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Sven Axelsson
On 30 December 2010 19:18, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On 30 December 2010 19:05, Sven Axelsson wrote: >> >> Hmm, running that snippet locally puts the g:s at the second line, but >> at the LSR site they are shown below the system. Interesting. > > Wouldn't it be better (i.e. more understandable) wit

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Yes, Reinhold explained more precisely the problem - I want to underline several syllables of several notes, but all in one go, i.e. the underline line should not be broken, but span several syllables. Unfortunately, it seems this is not possible in the current version of LilyPond. Thanks for answ

Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing

2010-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Sven Axelsson" To: "Xavier Scheuer" Cc: "Phil Holmes" ; "James Lowe" ; "LilyPond User Group" Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Grace notes with fixed spacing On 30 December 2010 19:18, Xavier Scheuer wrote: On 30 December 2010 19:0

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Karl Hammar
James: ... > Likewise the term 'Gregorian Square Neume Ligatures', could I for > instance just call them 'Gregorian Square Neumes' or whatever the > plural is? Neums are a kind of strokes as seen in e.g. [1] A ligature is two or more notes bound together. Black square notation is seen in e.g. [2].

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
Just a thought. Nikolay, does it make sense to add the underlines after the fact with a PDF editor? Or do you hav e hundreds of items to underline? Cheers, Mike On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Nikolay Kirov wrote: > Yes, > Reinhold explained more precisely the problem - > I want to underline s

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Frauke Jurgensen
Why not call it "Ligatures in square notation" or "Square Notation Ligatures"? That would remove both the neume and the also-problematic "Gregorian". Regards, Frauke On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Karl Hammar wrote: > James: > ... >> Likewise the term 'Gregorian Square Neume Ligatures', could

A small but vexing problem

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
I think I mentioned in a prior post that I'm creating LilyPond versions of 400 Bach chorales with moveable do solfege beneath the notes. I've now got workable versions for the chorales with all parts together and hope to have them up on a website soon with pdf and midi files available also. I'd a

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2010/12/30 Frauke Jurgensen : > Why not call it > > "Ligatures in square notation" or "Square Notation Ligatures"? That > would remove both the neume and the also-problematic "Gregorian". > > Regards, > Frauke "Gregorian neumes" would be a more natural name for that notation element. Sorry if I t

RE: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread James Lowe
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Francisco Vila [paconet@gmail.com] Sent: 30 December 2010 19:52 To: Frauke Jurgensen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subje

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Yes, Mike, I have about a thousand Bulgarian folk songs in LilyPond format http://nikolay.kirov.be/2010/folk/FOLK_en.html A most of them have a refrain, which must be underlined following the tradition from the books. So, I need a tool (special engraver) to underline several syllables of several

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
Definitely worth automating if at all possible! Cheers, Mike On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Nikolay Kirov wrote: > Yes, Mike, > > I have about a thousand Bulgarian folk songs in LilyPond format > > http://nikolay.kirov.be/2010/folk/FOLK_en.html > > A most of them have a refrain, which must be

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Marek Klein
2010/12/30 Francisco Vila > > 2010/12/30 Frauke Jurgensen : > > Why not call it > > > > "Ligatures in square notation" or "Square Notation Ligatures"? That > > would remove both the neume and the also-problematic "Gregorian". > > > > Regards, > > Frauke > > "Gregorian neumes" would be a more natur

Re: A small but vexing problem

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
Thanks, James. It's not quite what I need but you have the right idea. Since posting the problem, I've worked out the following that seems to give me most of what I want: if I have, say, voices ASvoiceAA with the fermatas and AAvoiceBA without as shown below --- A

Cross staff Chords

2010-12-30 Thread Shane Brandes
Greetings fellow Lilypond users, I have been using Lilypond for a couple of years now and till now have been able to crack most problems with it by resorting to the snippet repository or the archives here. However i have encountered a snag that does not seem to have an obvious solution. The pro

Re: Cross staff Chords

2010-12-30 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 30 December 2010 22:11, Shane Brandes wrote: > > Greetings fellow Lilypond users, > > I have been using Lilypond for a couple of years now and till now > have been able to crack most problems with it by resorting to the > snippet repository or the archives here. However i have encountered a >

Re: A small but vexing problem (fermatas in several voices)

2010-12-30 Thread Michael J. O'Donnell
In similar situations, I like to create LilyPond variables whose values are the notes only for each part, and a separate variable whose value is the expressive marks that go on all parts together, including fermatas, dynamic markings, ... Then, I can create a full score with the expressive mar

Re: Clarification of Gregorian Chant terminology

2010-12-30 Thread Frauke Jurgensen
I think the trouble is a mixing of terminology: "ligatures" is being used as a lilypond term to cover multi-note-symbols of various types of early notation, regardless of terms used in palaeography for that type of notation. It seems logical to use this one term for things that behave similarly...

Re: Cross staff Chords

2010-12-30 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 30 December 2010 22:30, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > > Hi! > > That's because you use a << { ... } \\ { ... } >> construct. > Voices within that construct are different from voices outside this > construct and then your \autoBeamOff does not apply to your "left UP" > voice. > > 1. You could repl

Re: A small but vexing problem (fermatas in several voices)

2010-12-30 Thread Michael Ellis
Hi Michael, That's a good idea and I'd do exactly that if I were transcribing the chorales by hand. Fortunately, Margaret Greentree (jsbchorales.net) has already done the hard work of entering all the notes for 404 chorales, but she did it in Finale, so I'm starting from LilyPond converted from he

no view because of mistakes?

2010-12-30 Thread Ludo Beckers
When I make mistakes, how do I know where they are? I'm working on a tune that won't show the PDF-result and I haven't got a clue where the wrong input is (possibly the tuplets, because it's not so clear how to input them correctly). Ludo ___ lilypond-us

Re: A small but vexing problem (fermatas in several voices)

2010-12-30 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2010-12-30 22:44, Michael J. O'Donnell wrote: > Annoyance: the expressive part needs skips of the durations > corresponding to the notes in between the expressive marks. Someday, I > hope that LilyPond will have the facility to mark temporal points in > various parts so that they can be aligned

Re: no view because of mistakes?

2010-12-30 Thread Frauke Jurgensen
When you compile the file, what does the output say? On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ludo Beckers wrote: > When I make mistakes, how do I know where they are? > I'm working on a tune that won't show the PDF-result and I haven't got a > clue where the wrong input is (possibly the tuplets, becaus

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Neil Puttock
On 30 December 2010 20:21, Nikolay Kirov wrote: > So, I need a tool (special engraver) to underline several syllables of > several notes. There are two options here, both creating a tweaked TextSpanner: 1) stay with 2.12 and add the Text_spanner_engraver to the Lyrics context (`underline-2.12.l

Re: no view because of mistakes?

2010-12-30 Thread Ludo Beckers
You mean when trying to view in PDF? This is the result: Unable to open document. File type plain text document (text/plain) is not supported From: Frauke Jurgensen > Subject: Re: no view because of mistakes? > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: no view because of mistakes? CORRECTION

2010-12-30 Thread Ludo Beckers
oops... I just realized I'm on the Lilypond list here, and not the Denemo list! My mistake (a blushing apology) Maybe someone here can help out just the same; otherwise I'll repost on the appropiate list. Ludo From: Frauke Jurgensen > Subject: Re: no view because of mistakes? > To: lilypond-use

Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?

2010-12-30 Thread Tobias Braun
Yes, you perfectly understood me. But using chords is totally impractical for me as I already have the individual voices as LilyPond code. I tried as you described below and I'm getting a little closer. However, there are still some problems, one of which you can see in the attached example: the

Re: Staff change in piano music - a general approach?

2010-12-30 Thread Shane Brandes
place this before the offending alto note. \once\override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag That will resolve the issue but i no no convenient way of doing that for a large score with many such instances in any convenient way. regards. Shane On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Tobias Braun wrote: > Ye

Re: \underline in lyrics

2010-12-30 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Thanks a lot, Neil! It works and solves perfectly my problem. Happy New Year! Nikolay On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Neil Puttock wrote: > On 30 December 2010 20:21, Nikolay Kirov wrote: > >> So, I need a tool (special engraver) to underline several syllables of >> several notes. > > There a