Re: How to get a single notation of clefs, keys, or others?

2009-04-06 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 01:21:04PM +0800, 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote: > For your other question, here's a script. Create a file feta.ly, and >copy the following lines into it. See the log file after compiling, and >you'll get a full list of music glyphs (some are punctuations and numbers)

Re: default margins

2009-04-06 Thread Mark Polesky
I know this topic has been silent for two weeks, but I just came across this "table of sizes" in my copy of Ted Ross's "The Art of Music Engraving and Processing". Might as well arm ourselves with as much information as we can get, right? - Mark <>_

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jay Anderson wrote Monday, April 06, 2009 2:50 AM On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: as long as I have anything to do with LilyPond, I will veto changes like this that introduce inconsistent whitespace handling in the syntax. Please come up with something different. I t

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Well, the advantage of a non-letter char is that it's less easy to >> confuse it with a note... That being said, we already have `r', >> meaning "rest" and `s' meaning "skip"... But what does `q' mean? >> :-) > > I guess it could mean "quote" -- as in quote the previous object. Well, I rather

Re: Avoiding slur collision with other voice

2009-04-06 Thread Mark Polesky
Trevor Daniels wrote: > The 'slurs' in the hand-written score look as if they are > really triplet indicators, with the '3' omitted from the > later ones. Trevor is right to discriminate between slurs and tuplet indicators. Ted Ross (1970) discusses the use of the small slur but makes clear that

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> As I do little note entry myself I don't have a view on the merits > of q vs &, but there is another issue to consider. If the base > chord being repeated contains tweaks, fingering, etc, are these to > be repeated too? I don't know. It depends on the implementation possibilities whether every

Re: default midi velocity

2009-04-06 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:04:09PM +0200, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > diff -ur lilypond-2.13.0.orig/lily/midi-item.cc > lilypond-2.13.0/lily/midi-item.cc > --- lilypond-2.13.0.orig/lily/midi-item.cc2009-04-05 21:11:25.0 > +0200 > +++ lilypond-2.13.0/lily/midi-item.cc 2009-04-05 21:17

Re: How to get a single notation of clifs, keys, or others?

2009-04-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The corresponding information is included in the "Application Usage" part of the documentation for version 2.12 and later, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Alternate-methods-of-mixing-text-and-music#Inserting-LilyPond-output-into-other-programs /Mats Wei

Re: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius

2009-04-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/4/6 Trevor Daniels : >> The 'q' version to my eyes is a bit easier to read. > > As I do little note entry myself I don't have a view > on the merits of q vs &, but there is another issue to > consider.  If the base chord being repeated contains > tweaks, fingering, etc, are these to be repeate

Re: Avoiding slur collision with other voice

2009-04-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 6. April 2009 09:38:42 Mark Polesky wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > The 'slurs' in the hand-written score look as if they are > > really triplet indicators, with the '3' omitted from the > > later ones. > > Trevor is right to discriminate

Re: Quarter-tone notation with arrows

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Kees van den Doel wrote: > Unfortunately Western notation doesn't work like that. Accidentals > (microtonal or not) operate on the 7 > diatonic pitches, not on 12 semitones. I think you think the "arrow" somehow > alters > already altered notes (like Bb), but the alteration operates on the diaton

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <49d996bb.9090...@ultrasw.com>, Paul Scott writes Ian Hulin wrote: Hi all, O.K here goes, I've pruned some bits out where we were getting into acoustics, and tweaked a few bits. Cheer Ian Hulin (snip) Transposing instruments are named according to the fundamental (known

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Simon Bailey
wol, On 6 Apr 2009, at 12:23, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Transposing instruments are named according to the fundamental (known on some brass instruments as the pedal) note. On a woodwind instrument this is normally the note obtained with all holes covered without over-blowing or

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Paul Scott wrote: > There are also orchestral bass clarinet parts written in bass clef so > that the transposition is a second rather than a ninth. The really nice parts are the ones written like this for bass clarinet _in A_, so you have to read the bass clef and transpose at the same time...

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:23:51AM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > What do you mean by an "open" valve? To me it means the valve is > depressed and the associated tubing is brought into play, which it > shouldn't be. It's probably best said as something like "with the > instrument in it

Re: Quarter-tone notation with arrows

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Breed wrote: > If there's some intuitive reason for choosing different logical > equivalents, perhaps that should be reflected in different pitch > alterations anyway. This was certainly one thought going through my head. Though it's not something I write myself, I was also thinking somewh

significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 18:13 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Han-Wen Nienhuys: > as long as I have anything to do with LilyPond, I will veto changes > like this that introduce inconsistent whitespace handling in the > syntax. What was the problem with this again? It is not so much inconsistent wh

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: >> as long as I have anything to do with LilyPond, I will veto changes >> like this that introduce inconsistent whitespace handling in the >> syntax. > > What was the problem with this again?  It is not so much inconsistent > whitepace, it's

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Marc Hohl
Despite the fact that it would cause massive problems in parsing, a line like c4 4 4 4 is not quite readable for me. As lilypond is THE tool for typesetting beautiful scores, the source file should reflect the beauty. So I should be able to grasp the score at first sight, and in my opinion,

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <7ba1cb89-6dd8-4258-aa23-32ba97b5f...@gmail.com>, Simon Bailey writes this happens in dutch symphonic wind music a lot as well. the trombone parts are supplied in Bb treble-clef (transposed), Bb bass-clef (transposed) and C bass-clef (concert pitch). i've only ever seen it in dutch

shift lyrics closer to staff

2009-04-06 Thread Marek Klein
Hi, in the example from the documentation, how do I get lyrics closer to the staff? (I tried it using the commented line, but it didn't work) \include "gregorian.ly" \score { << \new VaticanaVoice = "cantus" { \[ c'\melisma c' \flexa a \] \[ a \flexa \deminutum g\melismaEnd \]

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
I would avoid getting in this discussion before the feature is complete. Just call it \r (using an identifier or keyword), and see how it works in practice. When it is debugged, think of a character. The advantage of not using a letter a-z is that there are no backward compat problems with sourc

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <49da120a.7090...@hohlart.de>, Marc Hohl writes 1) personally, I would use the "%", but this is the comment sign and can't be used. (perhaps this would be even possible, but ... NO!) Oh my gosh, please, NOOO As Han-Wen has said, parsing is important. In another life I work w

Re: chordname vertical spacing

2009-04-06 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
On 05/04/2009, François Labadens wrote: > I would like to have chord names nearer to the staff... How can I do that ? I had the same problem. I'm now using the following setting in the Staff below the chords: \new Staff \with {\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-4 . 3)} Sometime

Re: significance of whitespace

2009-04-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> 3) why not use a "x" for eXpression, because the sign is meant not > only to repeat "Qords", but everything reasonable? I don't object. A chord is then played 3x (3 times) more, so use of `x' is really justified. Werner ___ lilypond-user mail

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Marc Hohl
Anthony W. Youngman schrieb: In message <49da120a.7090...@hohlart.de>, Marc Hohl writes 1) personally, I would use the "%", but this is the comment sign and can't be used. (perhaps this would be even possible, but ... NO!) Oh my gosh, please, NOOO As Han-Wen has said, parsing is impor

Re: Concert Pitch (a second try)

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Paul Scott wrote: > For woodwinds this description is not at all practical partly for the > extension reason you mentioned below. Not counting the B foot on a > flute or the low A on many baritone saxes the only woodwind I know of > that has a C for its full length is the flute. Saxes and oboes s

grace notes after repeat bar

2009-04-06 Thread Lewis Overton
I'm running Lilypond 12 on a Mac, using an external editor (TextMate), which generally works quite well. But I play trombone, and must create parts and scores involving sliding into notes. Lilypond produces some bizarre output. The example below illustrates the ugly output my innocence led me into

Re: grace notes after repeat bar

2009-04-06 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 06.04.2009 um 22:26 schrieb Lewis Overton: … Grace note synchronization can also lead to surprises. Staff notation, such as key signatures, bar lines, etc., are also synchronized. Take care when you mix staves with grace notes and staves without, for example, … The "solution" is to inclu

RE: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Nick Payne
Why not use an empty pair of braces, which at the moment are just ignored by the parser, to dignify chord repetition: <> gives 3<> gives c <> gives c - ie <> ignored as now if preceding element is not a chord Can be typed pretty rapidly too: hold down right shift with your little fing

custom keysignature help

2009-04-06 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm trying to figure out what the character in the custom key signature is, and it's not working for me. I've tried copying and pasting from the manual, but it's not working for. I get these errors: GNU LilyPond 2.12.2 »Vol 1.ly« wird verarbeitet Analysieren... Vol 1.ly:571:51: Fehler: GUILE s

Repeating subtltle with bookparts

2009-04-06 Thread Nick Payne
Is it intended that a title or subtitle in the main header should be repeated in each bookpart that doesn't redefine the title or subtitle, because that's what I see: %= \version "2.12.2" \paper { ragged-bottom = ##t ra

Re: TimeSignature with white border?

2009-04-06 Thread Mark Polesky
This one is a little better. - Mark \version "2.13.0" #(define (whiteout-clef-stil grob) (let* ((x-pad 0.3) (this-stil (ly:clef::print grob)) (stil-x-ext (ly:stencil-extent this-stil 0)) (stil-y-ext (ly:stencil-extent this-stil 1)) (box-x-ext (co

Re: my articles and astroturfng LWN

2009-04-06 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
Here's the Saraband from essay in Finale 2008, which is only one version of Finale behind the current one. I put it together while contemplating Graham's grand web project. Andrew On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Graham Percival > wrote:

How to input keysignature or timesignature in \markup?

2009-04-06 Thread Wei-Wei Guo
Dear all, I need to input music symbols in my learning notes. Although \musicglyph helps a lot, I still have no idea how to input some music symbols, such as a short piece of pure staff, timesignature, keysignature, and so on. Could you give me any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Best wishes,

Re: TimeSignature with white border?

2009-04-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Mark, This one is a little better. You rock -- thanks! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Quarter-tone notation with arrows

2009-04-06 Thread Kees van den Doel
> Kees van den Doel wrote: > > Unfortunately Western notation doesn't work like that. > Accidentals (microtonal or not) operate on the 7 > > diatonic pitches, not on 12 semitones. I think you think the > "arrow" somehow alters > > already altered notes (like Bb), but the alteration operates >

lyrics and aftergrace

2009-04-06 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I have a problem with lyrics and aftergrace. In the following snippet, the lyrics don't align to the music as expected. global = { \key d \major \time 6/8 } melodie = \relative c'' { \global \afterGrace cis2.\trill{ b16 [ cis] } d4 } text = \lyricmode { Lied im Grund. } \version

Re: Repeating subtltle with bookparts

2009-04-06 Thread Marek Klein
2009/4/7 Nick Payne > Is it intended that a title or subtitle in the main header should be > repeated in each bookpart that doesn't redefine the title or subtitle, > because that's what I see: > > > "Main Subtitle" appears in each bookpart. If I change each bookpart to use > subtitle instead of t

Re: significance of whitespace [WAS: LilyPond, Finale and Sibelius]

2009-04-06 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
> Can be typed pretty rapidly too: hold down right shift with your little > finger and <> fall under the index and middle fingers. ..not everyone uses us keyboard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo