Thank you,
I was in fact interested in the notation of Pierrot Lunaire’ “Den Wein", which
Schoenberg abandoned later to adopt the “Humperdinck” one.
Thank you for the material, I’ll try to study it and understand how it works.
Best
Massimiliano
> On 1 Nov 2020, at 21:43, Thomas Morley wrote:
Hi,
yes the code was pretty old, about 2007.
So it is good to have updated this topic in the forum.
Thank you to you and everybody!
unofortunately I use Lilypond only once in a while, so I don’t use it enough to
develop a deep knowledge as I would like.
first one who writes a book/tutorial on Li
Hi Massimiliano,
the code you provided is _very_ old. I modified it a bit in order to
work with both possible stem directions and respect rests. Also, there
was a hard-coded offset for the cross that can more succinctly be
replaced by a \center-align.
I also lenghened the stems a bit. Note t
Thank you for the answer.
Now it works fine…
still, to be perfect, I should to find a way to extend the stem so that the x
can find its comfortable place on it.
And another possibly outrageous question… when I invoke \sp, it works from the
first following note on to the last note, rests includ
Massimiliano Viel wrote:
I receive the following message of error:
Wrong number of arguments to ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
Why is that? As far as I can understand the number of arguments is fine!
The last parameter was dropped quite some time ago.
You should have run it through convert-ly.
Hello everybody,
I would like to use Schoenberg’s original symbol for sprechgesang…
Specifically, the x on the stem you find in the score of Pierrot Lunaire.
I found a snippet in the forum, which is:
sp = { \override Voice.Stem #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(ly:st
Hi,
definitely interesting might be, that the autographs from Schönberg
himself doen't contain this special symbols, but he set a cross instead
of a notehead. Confer to
http://www.schoenberg.at/6_archiv/music/works/op/compositions_op21_sources_e.htm#
for instance page 12 of the cathegory B. I
>\override Voice.Stem #'text = \markup {
> \hspace #-1.025 \fontsize #-4 \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2cross"
> }
> }
>
> René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the
> sprechgesang is :-)
>
> Bert
Köszönöm Bertalan
Now, that's a solution I could have not figured myself, because it needs
more knowledge.
For example from where in the doc could I figure out that interpret-markup
is part of ly:text-interface and what it does?
The doc for
ly:output-def-lookup
is also strange: ly:output-def-lookup pap sym def
Loo
= \markup {
> \hspace #-1.025 \fontsize #-4 \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2cross"
>}
> }
>
> René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the
> sprechgesang is :-)
this is a bit odd, because stem does not usually have 'text.
It
ot;noteheads.s2cross"
}
}
René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the
sprechgesang is :-)
Bert
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However, I'm truly puzzled by the fact that the crosses are also
attached to rests because we explicitly override the stencil property of
_Stem_. It would be news to me that rests also possess stems.
I think they do, because there can be stemlets above rests in situations
like this c[ r d]
Bertalan Fodor wrote:
> This is good only for stem ups.
You can even unify the functions by directly accessing the stem's
direction property like this:
-- begin code --
sp = { \override Voice.Stem #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
(ly:stem::
\revert Stem #'stencil
I think, I haven't tried.
> --- Original Message ---
> From: René Bastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Sent: 07. 01. 25., 17:45:21
> Subject: Re: sprechgesang
>
> Le Jeudi 25 Janvier 2007 15:11, Bertalan
Le Jeudi 25 Janvier 2007 15:11, Bertalan Fodor a écrit :
> Now, just for fun, I've recreated
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Schoenberg_Mondestrunken_opening.png
>
> spDown = {
> \override Voice.Stem #'stencil = #(lambda (grob)
> (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:stem::print grob) 1 1
> (ly:
}
\layout {
ragged-right = ##t
}
René Bastian írta:
Dear list,
I need the "sprechgesang" symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's
Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it.
"See- -ro-se dient als Boot"
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/Mats
René Bastian wrote:
Dear list,
I need the "sprechgesang" symbol (a stem with an x, as in
Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it.
"See- -ro-se dient als Boot"
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durations".
/Mats
René Bastian wrote:
Dear list,
I need the "sprechgesang" symbol (a stem with an x, as in
Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it.
"See- -ro-se dient als Boot"
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ot;.
/Mats
René Bastian wrote:
Dear list,
I need the "sprechgesang" symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's
Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it.
"See- -ro-se dient als Boot"
--
=
Mats Bengtsson
Dear list,
I need the "sprechgesang" symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's
Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it.
"See- -ro-se dient als Boot"
--
René Bastian
http://www.musiques-rb.org
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