Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-06 Thread Paul Hodges
Ah, right - the number of systems on the first page didn't change, and I stopped there instead of looking at later pages as well. I'll experiment with nopagebreak. I already have a voice with just time signatures, skips and breaks, so that'll be a handy place to put them. Thanks, Paul On 06/0

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-06 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 06/09/2021 à 11:37, Paul Hodges a écrit : Thanks for this explanation, which puts flesh onto the understanding I'd been coming to. However, I can't see what your example at the end is doing. Commenting out the override makes no difference to the output, so a little explanation might help

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-06 Thread Paul Hodges
Thanks for this explanation, which puts flesh onto the understanding I'd been coming to. However, I can't see what your example at the end is doing. Commenting out the override makes no difference to the output, so a little explanation might help me. What I guess I'd be interested in at this

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Valentin Petzel
Okay, The problem is this part here: [1] Lilypond fails to correctly estimate the extend of that bit and overestimates. This results in this extent estimate: [2] (the arrow in the middle), which is significantly longer than the actual system, resulting in Lilypond believing that there is spac

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi, Okay. The problem seems to be that for the upper system the extent estimate is larger than it should be. Consider setting the debug-skylines option (-ddebug- display-skylines from CLI or #(ly:set-option debug-skylines) from file). Maybe we find something. It took me a year of contributing

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Paul Hodges
Setting that option draws coloured lines along the skyline. At first glance the lines hug the notation tightly throughout, as I'd expect. But in the first line of the piece there are a couple of small oddities. (1) towards the end of the third staff (bar 7, secondo), the top skyline has a bli

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Valentin Petzel
Okay. The problem seems to be that for the upper system the extent estimate is larger than it should be. Consider setting the debug-skylines option (-ddebug- display-skylines from CLI or #(ly:set-option debug-skylines) from file). Maybe we find something. signature.asc Description: This is a di

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Paul, Sadly your attachment is of little value, since it is a screenshot of so little resolution that one cannot read what’s there. Why not attach the PDF? Cheers, Valentin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Knute Snortum
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 1:01 PM Paul Hodges wrote: > > One of the hardest things to find information on, it seems to me, is how > to adjust vertical spacing. There's lots of information about adjusting > spacing within systems, but little about fitting systems on a page. > > In the example below,

The mystery of vertical spacing

2021-09-05 Thread Paul Hodges
One of the hardest things to find information on, it seems to me, is how to adjust vertical spacing. There's lots of information about adjusting spacing within systems, but little about fitting systems on a page. In the example below, there is lots of space between the systems. The global fon

Re: \bookpart mystery

2018-06-05 Thread David Sumbler
r layout outfile-name))) > > > It would seem there is a problem with the so-called "default > paper".   > That led me to try this: > > >    \version "2.19.81" >    var = \book { \bookpart { \paper {} \score { g } } } >    \var > > &

Re: \bookpart mystery

2018-06-04 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2018-06-04 08:54, David Sumbler wrote: In my efforts (largely successful) to find a way easily to control conditional compilation, I came across this apparent anomaly. The following two short examples work as one might expect: % \book {   \score { g } } % % var = \book {   \scor

\bookpart mystery

2018-06-04 Thread David Sumbler
In my efforts (largely successful) to find a way easily to control conditional compilation, I came across this apparent anomaly. The following two short examples work as one might expect: % \book {   \score { g } } % % var = \book {   \score { g } } \var % Adding a \bookpart to

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/7/16 5:03 AM, "mclaren" wrote: > >The Lilypond documentation is poorly organized and extremely incomplete. >For >exmaple, I was only only able to find out about tie direction control by >glancing at an unrelated list of tweaks. Tie direction control \tieUp and >\tieDown should be featured

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.11.2016 12:03, mclaren wrote: This offers an example of the inadequacy of the Lilypond documentation. This kind of limitation in Lilypond's output really should be featured prominently somewhere in the basic info about entering note-values in the Lilypond Learning Guide. One sentence would

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread David Kastrup
mclaren writes: > Thanks, it's useful to know that Lilypond doesn't have printable > objects to represent time values shorter than 1/128 note, but that > Lilypond nevertheless does insert them into scores and deal with them. > > This offers an example of the inadequacy of the Lilypond > documenta

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 7 nov 2016 alle 12:03, mclaren ha scritto: The Lilypond documentation is poorly organized and extremely incomplete. For exmaple, I was only only able to find out about tie direction control by glancing at an unrelated list of tweaks. Tie direction control \tieUp and \tieDown shou

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.11.2016 um 12:03 schrieb mclaren: > The Lilypond documentation is poorly organized and extremely incomplete. For > exmaple, I was only only able to find out about tie direction control by > glancing at an unrelated list of tweaks. Tie direction control \tieUp and > \tieDown should be featur

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Am 07.11.2016 um 12:03 schrieb mclaren: > The Lilypond documentation is poorly organized and extremely incomplete. For > exmaple, I was only only able to find out about tie direction control by > glancing at an unrelated list of tweaks. Tie direction control \tieUp and > \tieDown should be featured

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread mclaren
ection control \tieUp and \tieDown should be featured prominently in the Lilypond Learning Manual in the section on ties. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Mystery-empty-staves-appear-on-score-tp196198p196264.html Sent from the User mailing l

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.11.2016 11:29, Urs Liska wrote: Experience shows that Lilypond won't print a rest shorter than 1/128 note, so maybe if I enter a short enough silent rest Lilypond won't insert it at all in the score. LilyPond doesn't know about notes or rests shorter than 1/128. This is an arbitrary limita

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.11.2016 um 11:23 schrieb mclaren: > Thanks! That answer a lot of questions. So presumably the S2 is means > "silent half note rest." > I'm guessing, then, that S1024 or S4096 will generate silent 1/1024 note > rest and silent 1/4096 note rests, respectively. > > Ideally, what I want is a s

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-07 Thread mclaren
e. I'll fiddle around with Lilypond some more and see what I can come up with. In any case, this valuable clue points me in the right direction. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Mystery-empty-staves-appear-on-score-tp196198p196258.html Sent from the

Re: Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-06 Thread Noeck
Hi mclaren, I would not know how to play these nested tuplets and I would have difficulties with that piece. But that's not the question. The empty staves are there, because you ask for them with your \breaks variable. Wherever you put \breaks into the music (at least 3 times in your score), you

Mystery empty staves appear on score

2016-11-05 Thread mclaren
ypond output png, so it's a non-critical problem. It would be nice to know why these empty mystery staves appear, though. What am I doing wrong? <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n196198/EXAMPLE_18c-nested_tuplet_acceleration_%26_deceleration_6-page1.gif> (Using a page count

Re: Mystery Solved - Thanks

2016-09-02 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Pastor, I wish all the musicians I’m playing with had bar numbers though, that would prevent a huge amount of time being lost during work sessions, when people count forward and/or backward to get at the right measure… JM > Le 1 sept. 2016 à 17:27, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > On 25.08

Re: Mystery Solved - Thanks

2016-09-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 25.08.2016 23:02, Pastor Neubauer wrote: I am looking to get rid of the numbers that are automatically put above the staff as the start of each line when Lilypondauto breakslines. What are they called and can they be removed. They are bar numbers, and you can remove them by inserting th

Re: Mystery Solved - Thanks

2016-08-25 Thread David Kastrup
"Pastor Neubauer" writes: > Thanks for the responses. I need to clean up my coding, which will help. The > mystery lies (I've had this issue a number of times) in that the \relative > statements are first lines controlled by the indent command. When Lilypond > auto

Mystery Solved - Thanks

2016-08-25 Thread Pastor Neubauer
Thanks for the responses. I need to clean up my coding, which will help. The mystery lies (I've had this issue a number of times) in that the \relative statements are first lines controlled by the indent command. When Lilypond auto breaks music the second and following lines are controlled b

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014-07-23 22:56 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > Ugh. > > We have shortcuts \chords, \lyrics, \figures, \drums. They are > documented sparingly if at all. > > Check the output of > > git grep '\\\(chords\|lyrics\|figures\|drums\)\b' > > for the number of occurences which are definitely significant tho

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread David Kastrup
Larry Kent writes: > Thanks for the replies, David Kastrup, Thomas Morley, David Nalesnik. The > problem is fixed, and if you care to read how, keep reading; otherwise, > thanks again and have a nice day. > > While trying to figure out how to create a "tiny example" that would > duplicate my pro

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread Larry Kent
Thanks for the replies, David Kastrup, Thomas Morley, David Nalesnik. The problem is fixed, and if you care to read how, keep reading; otherwise, thanks again and have a nice day. While trying to figure out how to create a "tiny example" that would duplicate my problem, which I was sure had to be

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread David Kastrup
Larry Kent writes: > Interesting quirk that popped up this morning, and I wonder if anyone else > has come across anything similar. > > I'm working on an "a cappella" choral score, and the lyrics are > misbehaving - but only in the bass part. Here's what is happening: > > 1. Lyric extenders do

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2014-07-23 20:05 GMT+02:00 Larry Kent : > Any thoughts on this, anyone? http://www.lilypond.org/website/tiny-examples.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Larry, On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Larry Kent wrote: > > Any thoughts on this, anyone? > > I think that this will be impossible to address without a minimal compiling example showing your problem. See http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html --David

Mystery quirk in lyrics - only in the bass part

2014-07-23 Thread Larry Kent
Interesting quirk that popped up this morning, and I wonder if anyone else has come across anything similar. I'm working on an "a cappella" choral score, and the lyrics are misbehaving - but only in the bass part. Here's what is happening: 1. Lyric extenders do not appear in the bass part, alt

Re: tablature mystery

2010-03-29 Thread David Stocker
Reading through the docs, I discovered TabVoice, of which I was previously not aware. :-) David On 03/29/2010 11:27 AM, David Stocker wrote: I'm sure I've messed up somewhere, but I can't see what I'm doing wrong here. I'm editing some music for fingerstyle guitar and I'm putting it into a

Re: tablature mystery

2010-03-29 Thread David Stocker
In the second example, I've defined voices within the variable "nfingers"... Actually, the voices are defined in the variable "tfingers" Hope that clarifies what I'm trying to do here. -- David Stocker 804-598-3762 http://notesettersinc.com ___ lil

tablature mystery

2010-03-29 Thread David Stocker
I'm sure I've messed up somewhere, but I can't see what I'm doing wrong here. I'm editing some music for fingerstyle guitar and I'm putting it into a modern looking tablature. I'm writing all of the notes twice so I can fine-tune the notation and tablature independently. I have 4 variables d

Re: Chord substitution mystery

2009-05-05 Thread Stan Mulder
Kieren MacMillan sympatico.ca> writes: > You've got an errant ' in your chord definition -- you actually want > > 1-\markup { +\super "7" } > > Hope this helps! That does help. I guess the quote mark put that particular note in a different octave??? __

Re: Chord substitution mystery

2009-05-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Stan, I was using a chord substitution scheme submitted here by Kieren MacMillan. Aw, shucks... ;) It works well and I enhanced it for augmented chords. However, I'm trying to display a plus sign as the augmented symbol and in the case of the C augmented7 chord it displays C7/#5 inst

Chord substitution mystery

2009-05-05 Thread Stan Mulder
I was using a chord substitution scheme submitted here by Kieren MacMillan. It works well and I enhanced it for augmented chords. However, I'm trying to display a plus sign as the augmented symbol and in the case of the C augmented7 chord it displays C7/#5 instead of C+7. Whereas the C aug 9 is fin

Re: pagebreak mystery

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Scott
David Bobroff wrote: First of all, why didn't you use the predefined macro \newpage ? I was not aware of it. I am now. I tried it. I got EXACTLY the same result as before. That is, it works with my short extract but not as expected in my full file. \newpage has never worked for me. I jus

Re: pagebreak mystery

2003-12-04 Thread David Bobroff
> First of all, why didn't you use the predefined macro > \newpage ? > > I'm not sure if I can help, but you could send the file > if you wish. I was not aware of it. I am now. I tried it. I got EXACTLY the same result as before. That is, it works with my short extract but not as expected in

Re: pagebreak mystery

2003-12-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
First of all, why didn't you use the predefined macro \newpage ? I'm not sure if I can help, but you could send the file if you wish. /Mats David Bobroff wrote: I'm having a problem with pagebreaks. I'm trying to use this procedure to force a newpage: \score { \notes \relative c' { c1 \contex

pagebreak mystery

2003-12-04 Thread David Bobroff
I'm having a problem with pagebreaks. I'm trying to use this procedure to force a newpage: \score { \notes \relative c' { c1 \context Score \applyoutput #(outputproperty-compatibility (make-type-checker 'paper-column-interface) 'between-system-string "\\newpage")

mystery solved, I guess

2002-12-05 Thread David Bobroff
> From the error printout in your first email, it seems that this >time it wasn't the pool-size but the "main memory size". I think >it should help to set extra_mem_top. It's not uncommon that the >Lilypond output breaks the default memory limits in LaTeX, so don't >worry too much about why it work

Re: mystery

2002-12-05 Thread Mats Bengtsson
See http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/lilypond-user/2002-December/00.html /Mats David Bobroff wrote: I've had something go wrong with a file. I've attached a small excerpt which manifests the problem for me. This was all working fine but then suddenly it didn't process the whole file any m

mystery

2002-12-05 Thread David Bobroff
I've had something go wrong with a file. I've attached a small excerpt which manifests the problem for me. This was all working fine but then suddenly it didn't process the whole file any more. I've found a the smallest chunk of my file that produces the error. This is end of the error message: