Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-22 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: >> Christ van Willegen schrieb: [Amadeus] >>>And if you'd life to get an F-natural in the key of D major, how would >>>you write that? > > I'll look that up, I have got the manual. My guess would be something like fn or its equivalent according to Amadeus' input conventions

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Brian, Since you are [ostensibly] sitting on the fence… ;) This is my “+1” for the cut-and-pastability (and, by extension, variable-referencibility, etc.) of Lily-code as noted by David K. Having engraved hundreds of Lilypond scores in the past 11 years — many with dozens of movements, 50+ s

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-19 Thread Brian Barker
At 15:41 19/04/2014 +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote: And if you'd life to get an F-natural in the key of D major, how would you write that? Clearly, following normal musical notation, you'd annotate the F in some way as being not the expected F in D major (F#) - using something such as fn.

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-19 Thread Urs Liska
I'll look that up, I have got the manual. Christ van Willegen schrieb am 19.04.2014: >On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Actually I'm currently in a discussion with a (highly) professional >engraver >> using Amadeus (a Unix/Linux program that has been out of development >for 15

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-19 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Actually I'm currently in a discussion with a (highly) professional engraver > using Amadeus (a Unix/Linux program that has been out of development for 15 > years now but is still used by a number of professionals). Amadeus is a > text-compiling

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-19 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > I find that very annoying, but he insists that it is in no way > ambiguous (because you always _see_ the score fragment you're working > on and the editor also always shows you the effective key). And he > insists that it is much more efficient simply because he has to type >

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Morris
Urs Liska wrote > So actually it's _this_ part that's causing the confusion: a notehead on > the first staff space can represent an f, a fes, a fis - or even a > completely different pitch governed by the clef or a generally active > transposition. In that sense musical notation is highly ambigu

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Paul Morris
a.l.f.r.e.d.o wrote > Hi, everybody. I sometimes have to write many accidentals in a bar and was > wondering if there was a way I could write the music in C major and then > transpose only the notes I need to be "sharpened" or flattened.  Hi, I wouldn't recommend this, but if you're determined to

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 15:48 18/04/2014 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 18.04.2014 15:38, schrieb Brian Barker: No - certainly not (though I know people who do!). You are quite right not to believe I could be that foolish. But there is still a difference in the representations: in musical notation, a note on the F l

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 08:58 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Brian Barker wrote: By the way, if you get to have a thousand times as many votes as I do, I'll make a note not to bother competing with you in any future dispute. ;^) Not sure how to take that, but I certainly

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Brian, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 07:57 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: > >> In my experience, speaking that sort of thing--calling F-sharp "F" ... >> > > Sorry, but who made that suggestion, please? This was about notation, not > description! > But Li

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Urs Liska
Am 18.04.2014 15:38, schrieb Brian Barker: At 14:41 18/04/2014 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker: But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, notwithstanding

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 07:57 18/04/2014 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: In my experience, speaking that sort of thing--calling F-sharp "F" ... Sorry, but who made that suggestion, please? This was about notation, not description! On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: ... I don't want it differen

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Brian Barker
At 14:41 18/04/2014 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker: But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, notwithstanding what the \key indication would appear alr

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi Brian, > > 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker : > > > But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, > > where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as > such, > > notwithstanding w

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Brian, 2014-04-18 8:26 GMT+02:00 Brian Barker : > But perhaps you are referring to the method of textual input in Lilypond, > where notes that are named "sharp" or "flat" need to be qualified as such, > notwithstanding what the \key indication would appear already to imply. (In > this way, Li

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-18 Thread David Kastrup
"a.l.f.r.e.d.o" writes: > Hi, everybody.  > I sometimes have to write many accidentals in a bar and was wondering > if there was a way I could write the music in C major and then > transpose only the notes I need to be "sharpened" or flattened.  Sure. You just need to mark the notes you need to

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-17 Thread Brian Barker
At 23:09 17/04/2014 -0300, Alfredo Noname wrote: I sometimes have to write many accidentals in a bar and was wondering if there was a way I could write the music in C major and then transpose only the notes I need to be "sharpened" or flattened. I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Accide

Re: Certain accidentals

2014-04-17 Thread Robert Schmaus
I think, if you don't specify a key at all, the music will always be "in C" (no accidentals at the staff's beginning). Of course the notes have all necessary accidentals. Best, Robert > On 18 Apr 2014, at 04:09, "a.l.f.r.e.d.o" wrote: > > Hi, everybody. > I sometimes have to write many acc