Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-18 Thread Frauke Jurgensen
What a very, very silly situation, and I feel for all those who are involved at ground level in trying to sort it out. I switched from a Debian laptop to a Mac one this summer, because I need to be able to use some proprietary stuff that’s not available, and I naïvely assumed that I could be hap

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Do you believe that it is impermissible for us to offer a binary > compiled using XCode on lilypond.org? [...] AFAIK, the limitation is only *building* on Mac OS hardware, not *distributing*. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-18 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/17/19, 5:38 PM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Karlin High writes: > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will >> appear on lilypond.org - I would expect >> v

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 7:42 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > Start of code > > \version "2.19.82" > { > \time 4/4 > \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % TEN PAGES of music > \repeat unfold 1000 { f1 } % + SIX MORE PAGES of music > \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % BUT WHEN ADDING MORE PAGES

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/17/19, 7:46 PM, "Chris Crossen" wrote: > On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen wrote: > >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen wrote: > >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason >> (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work >> out how to use Hans’s version. >> Allan > > I have Catalina installed on a Mac

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Chris Crossen
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > > Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason > (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out > how to use Hans’s version. > Allan I have Catalina inst

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use Hans’s version. Allan > On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:41, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly attribute

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 01:41, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly attributed it to Werner). It is > a package created in MacPorts, but I believe it does not require MacPorts to > be on the machine; it’s a package that was built separately. > > https://web2.st

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 01:39, David Kastrup wrote: > > Hans Åberg writes: > >>> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: >>> >>> On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on lilypond.org

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
I suggest you try Hans’s link (I mistakenly attributed it to Werner). It is a package created in MacPorts, but I believe it does not require MacPorts to be on the machine; it’s a package that was built separately. https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r I tried to test it out on my Mac (whi

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg writes: >> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: >> >> On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >>> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will >>> appear on lilypond.org - I would expect >>> v2.20.0 or thereabo

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will >> appear on lilypond.org  - I would expect >> v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a solid timetable? > > My current

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Carl - your summary explains the situation pretty much as I expected, Many people in the community are working hard to solve the problem, but we are tied by external forces. If I can see any useful work I can do, I will be happy to volunteer. > On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:14, Carl Sorensen wr

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks, Karlin It sounds as if the problem may be political and we just have to hope for a sensible political solution. > On 17 Oct 2019, at 23:30, Karlin High wrote: > > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac bi

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: Allan Kinnaird Date: Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:10 PM To: Subject: Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina I have been disappointed by the responses on this and related threads. It seems to me that many of the responders have not fully absorbed the questions. The basis of the problem is that

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Thanks for that, Hans, but I don’t understand what it means. I just want to be able to use Lilypond. Nobody who has bought a Mac since the launch of OS X 10.15 will be able to use Lilypond, and nobody else who uses Lilypond already can safely upgrade to the latest OS version. > On 17 Oct 2019, a

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Stan Sanderson
I was a long time user of Fink, another package manager for Mac. Out of curiosity I tried Homebrew but learned it sprinkled files in many places. Fink had everything in one location, so it was easy to uninstall. MacPorts is my preference now, due to its file management policy and excellent suppo

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:30, Karlin High wrote: > > On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: >> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on >> lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. >> Does anyone have a

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
And, alas, as I said, I want to avoid MacPorts for other reasons :-( (And MacPorts does not currently certify their version of lilypond-devel for 10.15, so maybe it works…) But thanks for the info. > On 17 Oct 2019, at 23:27, Hans Åberg wrote: > > >> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:10, Allan Kinnaird vi

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Karlin High
On 10/17/2019 5:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user wrote: I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on lilypond.org  - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a solid timetable? My current understanding is this: There is

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:10, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > > I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on > lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a > solid timetable? MacPorts lilypond-devel installs, and I just mad

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-10-17 Thread eBooks
> On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > wrote: > I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on > lilypond.org - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. Does anyone have a > solid timetable? This would be my question also.

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-28 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
line.de/service/redir/emailmobilapp_ios_smartphone_footerlink.htm> -Original-Nachricht- Von: Davide Liessi mailto:davide.lie...@gmail.com> > Betreff: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina Datum: 28.09.2019, 11:31 Uhr An: Thomas Scharkowski mailto:t.scharkow...@t-online.de> > CC: LilyPond Users mailto:lilypond-user@

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-28 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno ven 27 set 2019 alle ore 18:33 Thomas Scharkowski ha scritto: > I'll attach the log now: The port lilypond-devel built correctly on MacPorts' 10.14 buildbot, so the error may be specific to your system. Judging from the log, there's probably some issue with header files. Please do sudo

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-27 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear Thomas, Il giorno ven 27 set 2019 alle ore 10:41 Thomas Scharkowski ha scritto: > I could post the log if someone is willing to look at it and help. Is it the same error as this one? https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58913 Best wishes. Davide ___

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-27 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Original-Nachricht On 13 Sep 2019, at 19:30, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2019-09-13 um 19:15 schrieb Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user : Apple flagged on the release of Mojave that it would be the last version of OS X to support 32-bit applications, and the indications

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-13 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 13 Sep 2019, at 19:30, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > >> Am 2019-09-13 um 19:15 schrieb Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user >> : >> >> Apple flagged on the release of Mojave that it would be the last version of >> OS X to support 32-bit applications, and the indications are that Catalina >>

Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2019-09-13 um 19:15 schrieb Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user > : > > Apologies if this is an inappropriate forum to raise this question, but I am > a Lilypond user wanting to to continue using Lilypond. > Apple flagged on the release of Mojave that it would be the last version of > OS X t

Lilypond on OS X Catalina

2019-09-13 Thread Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user
Apologies if this is an inappropriate forum to raise this question, but I am a Lilypond user wanting to to continue using Lilypond. Apple flagged on the release of Mojave that it would be the last version of OS X to support 32-bit applications, and the indications are that Catalina will only ope