Thanks, Carl - your summary explains the situation pretty much as I expected, 
Many people in the community are working hard to solve the problem, but we are 
tied by external forces.
If I can see any useful work I can do, I will be happy to volunteer.

> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:14, Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> From: Allan Kinnaird <akinna...@icloud.com <mailto:akinna...@icloud.com>>
> Date: Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:10 PM
> To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>>
> Subject: Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina
>  
> I have been disappointed by the responses on this and related threads. It 
> seems to me that many of the responders have not fully absorbed the questions.
>  
> The basis of the problem is that with Catalina (OS X 10.15) Apple has 
> withdrawn support for any application not compiled for 64 bits.
>  
> So, any application compiled for 32 bits is likely not to run, and there is 
> strong evidence that existing versions of Lilypond do not.
>  
> Existing lilypond binaries for OSX are all 32 bit.  As has been stated 
> multiple times, these will not run on Catalina.
>  
> There are NO 64-bit distributable binaries for lilypond as far as I know.  
> Although you could try the link that Werner shared on the -devel list: 
> https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r 
> <https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r>
>  
> Let us know if this link works.
>  
> 64-bit binaries can be compiled from source on OSX using MacPorts.
>  
>  
> Most of us “Lilypond users” (is that not the target of this thread?) are not 
> really interested in forcing five-year-old code into use by clever 
> compilation techniques.
> We just want to continue to use stable Lilypond on our current computer 
> system by whatever means we did in the past. How can we do this?
>  
> Nobody knows how to do this right now.  If you wish, you can blame the 
> lilypond community.  I don’t think that will help anything.  You could also 
> blame Apple, but that won’t help anything either.
>  
> I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on 
> lilypond.org <http://lilypond.org/> - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. 
> Does anyone have a solid timetable?
>  
> Believe me, we understand the issue.  We just don’t know how to solve it now.
>  
> Apple refuses to let anybody use Xcode for building on any non-Apple hardware.
>  
> Our build system is based on non-Apple hardware.
>  
> A number of people are trying different approaches to get at a 64-bit Mac 
> binary.  There will be nothing magical about 2.20 for a 64-bit binary.  2.20 
> could easily come out without a 64-bit Mac binary.  And it is possible that a 
> 64-bit Mac binary could be produced before 2.20 is released.
>  
> It is also possible (although I hope it is not the case) that there will 
> never be a 64-bit lilypond binary distribution for OSX.  It all depends on 
> having one or more volunteers step up to make it happen.  We have no 
> employees.  We have no funding.  Most of our developers are very experienced 
> in the Linux world; I think it’s an amazing blessing that we have ever had 
> binaries for OSX and Windows.  Do you have any ideas where we might get 
> developers who are skilled in OSX development to join the project?
>  
> Note that we have Marnen and Werner working pretty hard to get something 
> working.  You can follow the discussion on lilypond-devel if you’d like more 
> information.
>  
> Thanks,
> 
> Carl

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