Thanks, Carl - your summary explains the situation pretty much as I expected, Many people in the community are working hard to solve the problem, but we are tied by external forces. If I can see any useful work I can do, I will be happy to volunteer.
> On 18 Oct 2019, at 00:14, Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> wrote: > > > > From: Allan Kinnaird <akinna...@icloud.com <mailto:akinna...@icloud.com>> > Date: Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 4:10 PM > To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>> > Subject: Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina > > I have been disappointed by the responses on this and related threads. It > seems to me that many of the responders have not fully absorbed the questions. > > The basis of the problem is that with Catalina (OS X 10.15) Apple has > withdrawn support for any application not compiled for 64 bits. > > So, any application compiled for 32 bits is likely not to run, and there is > strong evidence that existing versions of Lilypond do not. > > Existing lilypond binaries for OSX are all 32 bit. As has been stated > multiple times, these will not run on Catalina. > > There are NO 64-bit distributable binaries for lilypond as far as I know. > Although you could try the link that Werner shared on the -devel list: > https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r > <https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r> > > Let us know if this link works. > > 64-bit binaries can be compiled from source on OSX using MacPorts. > > > Most of us “Lilypond users” (is that not the target of this thread?) are not > really interested in forcing five-year-old code into use by clever > compilation techniques. > We just want to continue to use stable Lilypond on our current computer > system by whatever means we did in the past. How can we do this? > > Nobody knows how to do this right now. If you wish, you can blame the > lilypond community. I don’t think that will help anything. You could also > blame Apple, but that won’t help anything either. > > I believe that the real question is when a 64-bit Mac binary will appear on > lilypond.org <http://lilypond.org/> - I would expect v2.20.0 or thereabouts. > Does anyone have a solid timetable? > > Believe me, we understand the issue. We just don’t know how to solve it now. > > Apple refuses to let anybody use Xcode for building on any non-Apple hardware. > > Our build system is based on non-Apple hardware. > > A number of people are trying different approaches to get at a 64-bit Mac > binary. There will be nothing magical about 2.20 for a 64-bit binary. 2.20 > could easily come out without a 64-bit Mac binary. And it is possible that a > 64-bit Mac binary could be produced before 2.20 is released. > > It is also possible (although I hope it is not the case) that there will > never be a 64-bit lilypond binary distribution for OSX. It all depends on > having one or more volunteers step up to make it happen. We have no > employees. We have no funding. Most of our developers are very experienced > in the Linux world; I think it’s an amazing blessing that we have ever had > binaries for OSX and Windows. Do you have any ideas where we might get > developers who are skilled in OSX development to join the project? > > Note that we have Marnen and Werner working pretty hard to get something > working. You can follow the discussion on lilypond-devel if you’d like more > information. > > Thanks, > > Carl
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