Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-05 Thread Wol
On 04/12/2022 17:46, J Martin Rushton wrote: Hi all, Our handbell team rings some pieces from normal scores, and some from a tablature notation. I had a go at converting one of our favourite pieces from tablature to scores, but some of the bars become so complex that I'm not sure this helps a

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-05 Thread J Martin Rushton
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 04:40 -0500, Michael Werner wrote: > Though I had to go look up what quaver and crotchet meant - this > debased and corrupted version of English we speak over here led me > astray for a bit. :-) - I wouldn't be that cruel to our cousins and friends. It's always puzzled me, wh

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-05 Thread Michael Werner
Yup. And now that you've got the basics from the Learning Manual it's time to go have a look at the Notation Reference for the more detailed look. Specifically http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices There's a whole lot of documentation - like, lots and lots and even mo

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-05 Thread J Martin Rushton
Thanks Pierre That section seems to point me back to my original attempt:<< \relative c' {\stemDown g'4 4 g4 4 } \\ \relative c' { s8 b'8 s8 d8 e4 d4 } >> | << \relative c' { 4 4 } \\ \relative c' \autoBeamOff { c'8 8 e,8 8 } >> 4 4 |which was adapted from the manuals.Best,Martin On Sun, 2022-12-0

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
See. https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/learning/i_0027m-hearing-voices.html Cheers, Pierre Le dim. 4 déc. 2022 à 23:09, J Martin Rushton < martinrushto...@btinternet.com> a écrit : > Hi Pierre > > Yes, I like that. I hadn't come across \tiny before, it does help make > things nicer. I

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
Hi Pierre Yes, I like that. I hadn't come across \tiny before, it does help make things nicer. I assume that the "tenor bells" is simply an artefact from a template - I can't see that it does anything. In the alto bells would you advise the rest? Remember that ringers are following a line and a

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Martin, Sorry but the last attempt is hardly readable. As Michael suggested previously, precising voices might help ; also, you could change some voice sizes for a better reading. E.g. something like: sopranBells = \fixed c'' { \voiceOne | %mes. 13 g4 r8 g8 4 4 | %mes. 14 g4 4 4 4

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
Hi Michael It just takes having to explain something to sort it. Those two problematic bars are now: which is much better. I still don't really like the tied quavers where a crotchet is rung, but then you can't have everything! The relevant code is: g8 ~ 8 8 ~ 8 4 4 | 8 ~ 8 8 ~ 8 4 4 | for th

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
Hi Michael I've mocked up the same two bars in LibreOffice as tablature: Where you see a dot and a number, the dot indicates half a beat's rest, so that row three of the first beat is interpreted as r8 b8 In the second bar, first beat, the "5 6" is c8 b8 The bolded top row indicates the tune, w

Re: Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread Michael Werner
Hi Martin. Well, I'm still pretty new to Lilypond but I have done some handbell music. I don't play them myself - my mother is the musician while I'm her tech support, I guess would be the way to phrase it. My approach with the more complex pieces her group was doing was to generate a somewhat si

Handbell notation

2022-12-04 Thread J Martin Rushton
Hi all, Our handbell team rings some pieces from normal scores, and some from a tablature notation. I had a go at converting one of our favourite pieces from tablature to scores, but some of the bars become so complex that I'm not sure this helps at all. Has anyone else done handbells on Lilyp