Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread David F.
> On Aug 18, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Benjamin Bruce wrote: > > Thanks for digging into this for me. Yes, both cases are necessary for > typesetting shape note hymns, as illustrated by the attached scan. I believe > the rule for this is that the notehead should be pointed up in the treble > clef, a

Re: completely filling a page, but not too compact, how?

2022-08-18 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 7:06 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > Maybe this engraved pdf is a better match to the Lilypond source... > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:02 PM Kenneth Wolcott > wrote: > > > > Hi; > > > > I have a piece of music that has forced line breaks that consumes > three pages. > > > > I

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Pierre-Luc Gauthier
The LilyPond repository is the only one that I follow closely that actually has (not quite but almost) daily updates anyway. I try to keep up to date as to where it's going, how it works and who's implicated (and in what capacity/portion). It is a big and complicated project that seems to have a li

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 21:30, Pierre-Luc Gauthier a écrit : I also read "git log -p" on a daily basis. Just curious: are you really reading `git log -p` *on the LilyPond repository* on a daily basis? Or is this a general method to learn about software that you apply for various pieces of software on

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Benjamin Bruce
Thanks for digging into this for me. Yes, both cases are necessary for typesetting shape note hymns, as illustrated by the attached scan. I believe the rule for this is that the notehead should be pointed up in the treble clef, and down in the bass clef. Ipan ne 18 tonal tlen metstli 08 tlen xi

Re: convert-ly and lilypond-invoke-editor missing gettext

2022-08-18 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion
> Am Mittwoch, den 17. August 2022 um 13:13:44 Uhr (+0200) schrieb Orm > Finnendahl: > > Hi, > > > > after upgrading from lilpond 2.19 to 2.23, lilypond-invoke-editor and > > convert-ly stopped working. > > > > In both cases I get > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "~/bin/..

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
HI Pierre-Luc; This is very nice, thank you. Ken On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 12:30 PM Pierre-Luc Gauthier wrote: > > Thanks Andrew for your input. I did write a few manuals (and still do) > for some system usage and I know how hard it can be to cover all what > a system can do and how to do it. >

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Pierre-Luc Gauthier
Thanks Andrew for your input. I did write a few manuals (and still do) for some system usage and I know how hard it can be to cover all what a system can do and how to do it. For the record, I learned a *lot* reading all (most) of the change logs : http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/chan

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> \partCombine #'(1 . 1) >>> { \aikenHeads f'2 } >>> { \aikenHeads f'2 } >> >> This is an interesting problem. LilyPond's Emmentaler font >> contains two shapes of this glyph, namely `noteheads.d1fa` and >> `noteheads.u1fa`, where the 'd' and 'u' stands for 'down' and 'up', >> respectively

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 18 août 2022 à 18:09, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > >  >> >> \partCombine #'(1 . 1) >> { \aikenHeads f'2 } >> { \aikenHeads f'2 } > > This is an interesting problem. LilyPond's Emmentaler font contains > two shapes of this glyph, namely `noteheads.d1fa` and > `noteheads.u1fa`, where t

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you, Aaron. Yes, I found that Wikipedia entry at about the same time that I first struggled with the tremolo. It really comes back to being able to think and write fluently, doesn't it? :-) Thanks to you all for your great support on this list. Ken On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 9:09 AM Aaron H

Re: 64-bit MacBook Air M2 problems

2022-08-18 Thread Ian West
Thanks gentlemen. You have been most helpful. I am motoring with the 2.22.0 manual; so far everything is working. When it does not, I shall search out the 2.20 as you suggest. I started to load Frescobaldi, and indeed downloaded MacPorts-2.7.2-12-Monterey.pkg. But could not face it. I have seen c

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
AWESOME! On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 9:14 AM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > > What even makes it more difficult is when I don't even know what > > something is called at all (no terminology) and/or when I have no > > clue how to succinctly describe what it is that I don't know. For > > example, the tre

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What even makes it more difficult is when I don't even know what > something is called at all (no terminology) and/or when I have no > clue how to succinctly describe what it is that I don't know. For > example, the tremolo; I recognized the graphic but I had no way to > search for it by appea

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> \partCombine #'(1 . 1) > { \aikenHeads f'2 } > { \aikenHeads f'2 } This is an interesting problem. LilyPond's Emmentaler font contains two shapes of this glyph, namely `noteheads.d1fa` and `noteheads.u1fa`, where the 'd' and 'u' stands for 'down' and 'up', respectively (you can see the gly

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2022-08-18 8:49 am, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: What even makes it more difficult is when I don't even know what something is called at all (no terminology) and/or when I have no clue how to succinctly describe what it is that I don't know. For example, the tremolo; I recognized the graphic but I

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you all for your commentary on my question. I think there are some very nice responses here that give me some perspective. What even makes it more difficult is when I don't even know what something is called at all (no terminology) and/or when I have no clue how to succinctly describe what

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Benjamin Bruce
Thank you for your reply. Here is my tiny example with two stems: \partCombine #'(1 . 1) { \aikenHeads f'2 } { \aikenHeads f'2 } I am attaching an image to illustrate what I am trying to do. If that doesn't go through I will try with a link. Ipan ne 18 tonal tlen metstli 08 tlen xiwitl 202

Re: Pointing Aiken Fa up in partCombine

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 15/08/2022 à 21:04, Benjamin Bruce a écrit : Hello all, I feel like there should be a simple answer to this question, but I can't figure it out.  I am using Lilypond 2.22. My setup is Aiken shape notes, with two voices combined using partCombine. In one place, both the voices have the sam

Re: ragged-right and \rhythm

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 10:58, Lukas-Fabian Moser a écrit : Hi Jean, Am 17.08.22 um 15:14 schrieb Jean Abou Samra: Looking at the Constrained_breaking class, I think just setting ragged-right = ##t in \rhythm should be OK. Alternatively, if you feel like it, introduce a variant of Paper_score::get_pape

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Karlin High
On 8/18/2022 5:48 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: Every layman seems to have a different 'layman's term' for things, some of which are true alternatives and some of which are just plain wrong. Doing residential tech support, I will never forget the man who referred to the desktop background picture

Re: 64-bit MacBook Air M2 problems

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 14:18, Ian West a écrit : Thanks gentlemen. You have been most helpful. * I am motoring with the 2.22.0 manual; so far everything is working. When it does not, I shall search out the 2.20 as you suggest. * I started to load Frescobaldi, and indeed downloaded MacPorts-

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Ken, I also use Dorico, which currently has a 1720 page PDF manual. If I may make a few comments. There's an active Steinberg Dorico forum. It's continuously full of complaints about using the manual. It's also full of complaints saying Dorico is not 'intuitive'. Finally somewhat annoyed

Re: [was: Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2]

2022-08-18 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear Jean Louis, I agree with Jean-Julien's message. I just want to add a couple of points. Il giorno gio 18 ago 2022 alle ore 03:10 Jean Louis THIRY ha scritto: > I think I have made quite a bit of progress in the great forest of my > ignorance. I took your advice first and installed Macport

Re: [was: Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2]

2022-08-18 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno gio 18 ago 2022 alle ore 11:48 Jean Louis THIRY ha scritto: > Being on Mojave (10.14) This explains also why you were not hit by the 'use_xcode' problem, since it does not affect 10.13 and 10.14. > Everything around qt5 seems to be a weak point of Frescobaldi, Indeed: I appreciate gre

Re: [was: Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2]

2022-08-18 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear Jean-Julien, Il giorno gio 18 ago 2022 alle ore 08:52 Jean-Julien Fleck ha scritto: > Well, it’s unlikely. I happen to have frescobaldi installed via a fresh new > MacPort procedure (after upgrading to MacOs Monterey) just last week and the > missing sdk message I encountered was related t

Re: [was: Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2]

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Louis THIRY
Hello friends, > Le 18 août 2022 à 09:16, Jacques Menu a écrit : > I’ve never heard about Xcode_11.3.1.xip. > The simple way to install Xcode is to take it from the App Store (needs about > 50 Mb these days). That's what I was thinking of doing, but on the app store you can only find the ve

Re: ragged-right and \rhythm

2022-08-18 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
I can try this. Is it necessary to first create an issue (I assume for keeping track of the "motivation" for the MR)? But if I am to take the route of messing with get_paper_systems etc. I'm probably going to need some help or at least bother everybody with questions. ... and here we go w

Re: ragged-right and \rhythm

2022-08-18 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Jean, Am 17.08.22 um 15:14 schrieb Jean Abou Samra: Looking at the Constrained_breaking class, I think just setting ragged-right = ##t in \rhythm should be OK. Alternatively, if you feel like it, introduce a variant of Paper_score::get_paper_systems / ly:paper-score-paper-systems (the functio

Re: Why not have a Lilypond documentation set arranged as layman's Q: does LP do this?

2022-08-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/08/2022 à 04:16, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : Hi; Dumb documentation question here: Kind of like a FAQ but also kind of like an index. So this would be a "translation" of layman's terms to Lilypond/professional terminology and an index; it could even point to existing indices (in Notation)

Re: [was: Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2]

2022-08-18 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Folks, I’ve never heard about Xcode_11.3.1.xip. The simple way to install Xcode is to take it from the App Store (needs about 50 Mb these days). JM > Le 18 août 2022 à 08:48, Jean-Julien Fleck a > écrit : > > Hello Jean-Louis, > > Le jeu. 18 août 2022 à 03:10, Jean Louis THIRY a écri