Re: transcribe notes

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > [...] > Or, to put it in a more cold-blooded way: I want to get the > reputation of treating lilypond volunteers well, since that will > encourage more people to volunteer.  By discouraging people from > having a hard time now, I'm gambling

Re: transcribe notes

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: >>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > >>> I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on >>> my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. > >>On Wednesday 13 June 2012 at

Re: transcribe notes

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense > of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people > into trying to get involved. That's because you are an excellent programmer, mathemat

RE: transcribe notes

>On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: >> I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on >> my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. >On Wednesday 13 June 2012 at 01:10, Graham Percival wrote: >ok. It won't become part of

Re: transcribe notes

Graham Percival writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: >> >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas >> >wrote: >> >> I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended >> >> by a polite "thanks, but no >> >> thanks".) > > I'm afraid that

Re: stem length and change staff

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) -Eluze wrote: > > > Tiresia Giuno wrote: > > > > in the attached files (.ly & .png) the alteration of the first b' > > in the second bar produces an incorrect length of the stems and an > > incorrect position of the beam. > > > > agreed, but version 2.

Re: transcribe notes

2012/6/12 Philip Thomas : > -- The Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money (albeit not much money), but > LilyPond and all its documentation, as we all know and greatly appreciate, > comes free. A nicely coloured printed Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money, but its code is creativecommons-attribution-noncom

Re: transcribe notes

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > If that's correct, I guess your initial "thanks, but no thanks" > is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more > serious contributor, Yes. > I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded > cheatsheet on my own

RE: transcribe notes

>On Tuesday 12 June 2012 23:41, Graham Percival >wrote: >I'm afraid that my first reaction is "thanks, but no thanks". See below. >Be warned that the CG is not actively maintained. I estimate that >approximately 20% of the advice in the CG misleading, and 10% of the advice >is harmful. It wa

Re: stem length and change staff

Tiresia Giuno wrote: > > in the attached files (.ly & .png) the alteration of the first b' in the > second bar produces an incorrect length of the stems and an incorrect > position of the beam. > agreed, but version 2.15.40 looks much better! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://o

stem length and change staff

Dear all, in the attached files (.ly & .png) the alteration of the first b' in the second bar produces an incorrect length of the stems and an incorrect position of the beam. This behavior does not appear in the third bar, where the third chord is modified. Is there any reason for that? To corre

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas > >wrote: > >> I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended > >> by a polite "thanks, but no > >> thanks".) I'm afraid that my first reaction is "thanks, but no

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Philip Thomas wrote: > I'll look at the CG. But would an expanded cheatsheet would be useful? You tell me :) I suppose that it will be, but i'm not using it for some time, so i'm not the best guy to judge. > And is it the kind of thing that a comparative beginne

RE: transcribe notes

>On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas >wrote: >> I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might >> it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved >> without over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a >> comparative beginner t

RE: transcribe notes

>>On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, "Philip Thomas" wrote: >> I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might >> it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved >> without over-burdening it with detail? >On 12 June 2012, at 21:58, James wrote: >http://www.ed

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas wrote: > I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be > worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without > over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a comparative > beginner to do s

Re: transcribe notes

On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, "Philip Thomas" wrote: -- -- > I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be > worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without > over-burdening it with detail? http://www.edition-kainhofer.com/en/lilypond/details/211

RE: transcribe notes

>> Janek Warcho? writes: >> >>> I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: "what's this?". >>> Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: "how do >>> i engrave this?" and it assumes that the user knows what's what he >>> wants. >> Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: >> She wants

Re: transcribe notes

Thank you Janek, Phil, Jan & Jay.  BTW Ming is a male name.   Blessing in+, Ming. > > From: Janek Warchoł >To: Phil Holmes >Cc: Jan Nieuwenhuizen ; MING TSANG ; >lilypond-usermailinglist >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:43:01 AM >Subject: Re: transcribe note

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On 12/06/12 07:30, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think if Lilypondtool or Frescobaldi would allow you to click-drag some of the grobs like dynamics and markup in the preview pdf and automatically insert code to make the tweak, that would be huge.

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Helge Kruse wrote: > Am 12.06.2012 08:57, schrieb m...@apollinemike.com: > >> form = { >>   \repeat unfold 4 { s1*4 \break } >> } >> >> music = { >>   \repeat unfold 64 a'4 >> } >> >> <<  \music \form>> > > > Actually this doesn't work. You will need something like

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

Tim McNamara wrote: > I think that this could simplify the syntax by creating a standard skeleton > for .ly files going from most global to most specific: > > \version information > > \paper information > > \form information (number of bars, repeat locations, bars-per-line, rehearsal > mark locat

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

Am 12.06.2012 08:57, schrieb m...@apollinemike.com: form = { \repeat unfold 4 { s1*4 \break } } music = { \repeat unfold 64 a'4 } << \music \form>> Actually this doesn't work. You will need something like this: music = \relative c'' { \repeat unfold 8 { a4 b c d e d c b } } << \one

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

- Original Message - > From: Francisco Vila > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:26 AM > Subject: Re: Appreciation / Financial support > > 2012/6/12 Jonathan Wilkes : >> I think if Lilypondtool or Frescobaldi would allow you to >> >> c

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value lol! look at the flagged notes: some are from Lily, some from Sibelius :P ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/l

Re: transcribe notes

Still the same answer: a breve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_whole_note -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: MING TSANG To: lilypond-usermailinglist Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: transcribe notes Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file.

Re: Do one thing well...

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Jeff Barnes wrote: > Apparently, we can't do the following now because Lilypond needs a file to > process. (?) But the following looks like a nice feature to consider. And > it could mean some really cool scripts for a particular purpose could be > written. Or tem

transcribe notes

Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file.   Blessing in+, - Forwarded Message - >From: MING TSANG >To: lilypond-usermailinglist >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:42:50 AM >Subject: transcribe notes > > >Hi, lily users: > > >I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a n

Re: transcribe notes

- Original Message - From: "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" To: "Janek Warchoł" Cc: "MING TSANG" ; "lilypond-usermailinglist" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: transcribe notes Janek Warchoł writes: I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: "what's this?". Lily docume

Re: transcribe notes

Janek Warchoł writes: > I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: "what's this?". > Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: "how do > i engrave this?" and it assumes that the user knows what's what he > wants. She wants a certain type of note. Chances are that she

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Jay Anderson writes: > >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: >>> I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with >>> vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to >>> ge

Re: transcribe notes

Jay Anderson writes: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: >> I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with >> vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to >> generate it? > > Most likely a breve: { c\breve } We now have two h

Re: conditionally eliminating lyric extender

On 2012-06-11 17:49, Alexander Kobel wrote: Looks like this message has not made it to the list; not sure if the problem was on my or on the gnu.org side. I apologize in advance if it appears twice now. Hi all, digging out a very old thread:

Need some guidance from a Lilypond Scheme expert

I understand the Scheme language at intermediate level, but am not adept at processing Lilypond data structures. I'm looking into Snippet 465: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=465 I have the following in my Lilypond code, for typesetting a common guitar strum pattern: rhtOne = #(rhythm-templ

My previous request is not of importance

Seems the snippet properly applies the current "relative" level to the snippet. I'm still curious, however, what the best practice for walking/recursing down SequentialMusic data structures is. My desire to get into the Scheme side of things stands. ___

Re: conditionally eliminating lyric extender

On 2012-06-12 09:40, Alexander Kobel wrote: s/twice/thrice/ below. Anybody knows of issues with gnu.lists.org? (I can't remember to have changed anything affecting this mail address or the mailing list in the past few years...) On 2012-06-11 17:49, Alexander Kobel wrote: Looks like this mes

Re: conditionally eliminating lyric extender

Hi all, digging out a very old thread: It was about conditionally killing lyric extenders if they are in the source, but the engraving turns out too tight for them to be necessary. Several months ago, I wrote the followi

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG wrote: > I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with > vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to > generate it? Most likely a breve: { c\breve } -Jay _

Re: transcribe notes

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM, MING TSANG wrote: > Hi, lily users: > > I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with > vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to > generate it? I suppose it's a breve note. It can have single or double li

transcribe notes

Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with  vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it?   Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org h

Re: Do one thing well...

Jeff Barnes writes: >> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen >> Jeff Barnes writes: >> >>> $ cat 'my-melody-in-lily-note-syntax.txt' | ~/bin/fourwayclose.pl | >> lilypond >> >> $ echo '{ a b c }' | LANG= lilypond -o stdin -  > > What's the LANG env variable for? Presumably for sparing us the spectacle of

Re: Do one thing well...

> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen > Jeff Barnes writes: > >> $ cat 'my-melody-in-lily-note-syntax.txt' | ~/bin/fourwayclose.pl | > lilypond > > $ echo '{ a b c }' | LANG= lilypond -o stdin -  What's the LANG env variable for? ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Jun 12, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> I think that this could simplify the syntax by creating a standard >> skeleton for .ly files going from most global to most specific: >> >> \version information >> >> \paper information >> >> \form information (number of bars, repeat location

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Jun 12, 2012, at 1:28 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: >> Let me respond as a musician rather than as a programmer, because I am the >> first and I am not the second. A lot of the syntax of Lilypond makes little >> sense except perhaps to people

Re: Do one thing well...

Jeff Barnes writes: > $ cat 'my-melody-in-lily-note-syntax.txt' | ~/bin/fourwayclose.pl | lilypond $ echo '{ a b c }' | LANG= lilypond -o stdin - Processing `-' Parsing... -:0: warning: no \version statement found, please add \version "2.15.40" for future compatibility Interpreting music... P

Do one thing well...

Apparently, we can't do the following now because Lilypond needs a file to process. (?) But the following looks like a nice feature to consider. And it could mean some really cool scripts for a particular purpose could be written. Or template files. Or (name your feature)... $ cat 'my-melody-in

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012/6/12 Janek Warchoł : >> >> LilyPondTool already does this. > > wow! It's called the ruler tool and it allows this: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-02/msg00150.html The code won't work unmodified on current LP but you get the idea. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:03:53PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:35 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > >> David Nalesnik already did this: > >> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=838 > >> > >>> I think the issue at this point is not LilyPond's

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:35 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> David Nalesnik already did this: >> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=838 >> >>> I think the issue at this point is not LilyPond's lack of ability to >>> do this or that, >>> but rather the lack of a vibrant

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/6/12 Jonathan Wilkes : >> I think if Lilypondtool or Frescobaldi would allow you to >> click-drag some of the grobs like dynamics and markup in the >> preview pdf and automatically insert code to make the tweak, >> that would be huge.

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

Colin Hall writes: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 08:45:24PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: >> On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Tim McNamara >> > wrote: >> > >> >> As great as Lilypond's output is, there is a long way to go in terms >> >> of simp

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 08:45:24PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Jun 10, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > >> As great as Lilypond's output is, there is a long way to go in terms > >> of simplification and usability (the syn

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

2012/6/12 Jonathan Wilkes : > I think if Lilypondtool or Frescobaldi would allow you to > > click-drag some of the grobs like dynamics and markup in the > > preview pdf and automatically insert code to make the tweak, > > that would be huge. LilyPondTool already does this. -- Francisco Vila. Bad

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

Janek Warchoł writes: > David Nalesnik already did this: > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=838 > >> I think the issue at this point is not LilyPond's lack of ability to >> do this or that, >> but rather the lack of a vibrant cookbook culture like Python has. > > I think you're right. It

Re: Appreciation / Financial support

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > Couldn't agree more - LilyPond already has all of this.  Every score I've > created since 2008 does this in some way or another.  Four bars per system in > simple music?  No problem. > > form = { >  \repeat unfold 4 { s1*4 \break }