On 3/17/11 5:04 PM, "Gilles THIBAULT" wrote:
> Just a comment :
> If you use "format" instead of "fancy-format" it works too.
> fancy-format doen't seem to be part of guile, so only a function added by
> Lilypond. I found it in output-svg.scm defined as follow :
> (define fancy-format format)
> So
On 3/17/11 5:04 PM, "Gilles THIBAULT" wrote:
> fancy-format doen't seem to be part of guile, so only a function added by
> Lilypond. I found it in output-svg.scm defined as follow :
> (define fancy-format format)
> So it is exactly the same !
> What the advantage to use fancy-format vs format ?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:20:38PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> 2011/3/17 Graham Percival :
> > I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog. I've been
> > estimating this for the past few years, but nobody's even
> > attempted to tackle it yet.
>
> It is a feature that already works...
2011/3/17 Graham Percival :
> I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog. I've been
> estimating this for the past few years, but nobody's even
> attempted to tackle it yet.
>
It is a feature that already works... would be nice to have! :-)
Are there any downside? increased rendering ti
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 01:56:05AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
>
> But let's stay on-topic: Keep up the good work with your articulate
> script. Any chance articulate will be an integrated, built-in
> functionality in Lilypond in the future ?
I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote:
(from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo
over almost the full range of the instrument.
Martin> I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most
Martin> clarinet music with a few exceptions including Mozart's
Martin>
> "Martin" == Martin Tarenskeen writes:
Martin> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote:
>> (from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo
>> over almost the full range of the instrument.
Martin> I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most
Martin> clarinet
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote:
(from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo
over almost the full range of the instrument.
I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most clarinet music
with a few exceptions including Mozart's Clarinet Concerto and
Right -- markFormatter needs to be a procedure, so you define it as a
lambda procedure:
\set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (mark) (fancy-format #f "~@r." mark))
Haven't tested, but this is the general idea.
This lambda procedure needs 2 arguments.
With :
\set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (m
Version 1.5 of the Articulate scripts is now available from
http://www.nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate/
This version adds support for mordents --- thanks to Patrick Karl who
reported the issue.
The next big thing I'd like Lilypond to do is to handle dynamics in
MIDI better. The problem i
Graham,
> I think the impact of making it easier and better for music *composers*
> will outweigh any inconvience for music *performers*.
[...]
> it's created a market for thousands of people to create
> music where it was previously impossible.
Unfortunately, "lower barrier of entry" almost alwa
Robin Bannister wrote:
>
> Marek Klein wrote:
>> how can I get the staff-lines vertically aligned?
>
> Here's another padding hack:
>
>
>> \layout { line-width = 6.2\cm ragged-right = ##f }
>>
>> centeredVAG = \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent = #'(-8 .
>> 8) }
>>
>> \
> "Graham" == Graham Percival writes:
> Graham Percival writes:
> It comes down to this: - new tool for composers.
It's also a tool for music teachers. And I'd argue that that is as
important if not more so.Human students do an awful lot of
interpretation of what they're told. Rob
Thank you all!
Marek
http://gregoriana.sk
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From the LilyPond essay I learned that LilyPond deliberately *avoids* lining up
the staff lines vertically to make the music look more like a hand engraved
manuscript . . .
On 17 Mar 2011, at 10:28 PM, Robin Bannister wrote:
> Marek Klein wrote:
>> how can I get the staff-lines vertically alig
"I, for one, welcome our new computer overlords." -- Ken Jennings
:-&,
Mike
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Marek Klein wrote:
how can I get the staff-lines vertically aligned?
Here's another padding hack:
\layout { line-width = 6.2\cm ragged-right = ##f }
centeredVAG = \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup #'Y-extent = #'(-8 . 8) }
\markup \fill-line \vcenter {
\column{
\score {
Marek Klein wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> how can I get the staff-lines vertically aligned?
>
> \version "2.13.40"
> \layout { line-width = 6.2\cm ragged-right = ##f }
> \markup \fill-line {
> \column{
> \score {
> \new Staff { c''' }
> \layout { }
> }
> }
>
Hi David,
> This day has more-or-less arrived. Whether we like it or not, most of
> the music we hear in our daily lives, e.g., radio spots, commercials,
> tv-shows and ever-increasingly, major motion pictures are filled with
> music generated by computers, albeit mostly through samples generated
Hi Graham,
>> With all due respect, I don't even think that's the point -- for
>> at some future date, there will undoubtedly be a computer which,
>> left to its own devices, *would* think of playing the violin or
>> chess rather than sitting in a corner and rusting.
>
> Actually, I doubt that.
Hi David,
> You are confusing teaching, training, and programming.
No: they are simply three different levels/aspects/stages/manifestations of the
same basic task.
> You don't teach an encyclopedia or an expert system
You don't "train" or "program" an encyclopedia either -- the closest you can
Hi all,
how can I get the staff-lines vertically aligned?
\version "2.13.40"
\layout { line-width = 6.2\cm ragged-right = ##f }
\markup \fill-line {
\column{
\score {
\new Staff { c''' }
\layout { }
}
}
\column{
\score {
\new Staf
Graham,
> BS. Watching musical robots is *incredibly* interesting, and way
> way way more interesting than a human!
>
> (seriously! I mean, you can wonder how much power it uses, and
> whether they use wired or wireless transmission, or how many
> degrees of freedom each of the joints offer
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:38:48PM -0400, Marc Mouries wrote:
> On 3/17/2011 11:31 AM, Graham Percival wrote:
> >Art conveys emotions which are the one thing that make us human
> >>and thus should be played by human.
> >"should be"? Hmm. "Art conveys emotions, and thus sheet music
> >should be en
Graham Percival writes:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:08:53AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> > The whole point is that a computer, left to its own devices, would never
>> > think of playing the violin or chess. It would sit in a corner and rust.
>>
>> With all due respect, I
Quoting Marc Mouries (m...@mouries.net):
> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who deserves to
> create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to music made by
> someone that does not practice?" and who wants to listen to music played by
> a computer? Sure many tim
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:08:53AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> > The whole point is that a computer, left to its own devices, would never
> > think of playing the violin or chess. It would sit in a corner and rust.
>
> With all due respect, I don't even think that's the point
On 3/17/11 9:37 AM, "Adam Good" wrote:
> Another tree to bark up and on a similar note, how to set roman
> numerals in Score.markFormatter as rehearsal marks via \mark \default
> ...
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> \relative c' {
> \set Score.markFormatter = #(fancy-format #f "~@r." 1)
>
> \mark
David Santamauro writes:
> One thing a robot, or any type of computer generated music will never
> replace is the simple gratification of actually playing -- from a
> players perspective.
What a ridiculous criterion. One thing you or any type of human
generated music (sorry for equating you wit
On 3/17/2011 11:31 AM, Graham Percival wrote:
Art conveys emotions which are the one thing that make us human
and thus should be played by human.
"should be"? Hmm. "Art conveys emotions, and thus sheet music
should be engraved by a human".
You are mixing unrelated things. The analogy is about
Another tree to bark up and on a similar note, how to set roman
numerals in Score.markFormatter as rehearsal marks via \mark \default
...
\version "2.12.3"
\relative c' {
\set Score.markFormatter = #(fancy-format #f "~@r." 1)
\mark \default
a b c d
\mark \default
a b c d
}
gives:
wa
Marc Mouries writes:
> On 3/17/2011 10:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Marc Mouries writes:
>>
>>> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
>>> deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to
>>> music made by someone that does not practice?" and who want
On Thu 17 Mar 2011, 15:31 Graham Percival wrote:
> As for *good* computer-performed music... it's not my favorite Miku
> work, but can you honestly say that you feel no emotion when
> watching this?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Dqb6uJ8WY
> (maybe you _can_ say that you feel nothing, but I can
hello
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Hi,
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:02:59 -0400
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> At first, I wasn't really interested in this thread… however, it's
> now gotten quite interesting.
Same here ...
> > This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
> > deserves to create good mus
Hi David,
Excellent rebuttal!
> The whole point is that a computer, left to its own devices, would never
> think of playing the violin or chess. It would sit in a corner and rust.
With all due respect, I don't even think that's the point -- for at some future
date, there will undoubtedly be a
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Kieren MacMillan writes:
[...]
>> One thing that comes to mind is that I don't want to arrive at a
>> point where musician will be teaching computers to play instead of
>> learning to play themselves.
>
> I hate to break the news, but we're already at that point -- as
> evidenced by this thread.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:02:59AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> But I also believe that it will be a great while longer before
> *watching* a robot (or audio speaker) will be as compelling as
> watching a human performer.
BS. Watching musical robots is *incredibly* interesting, and way
way w
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:15:46AM -0400, Marc Mouries wrote:
> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
> deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen
> to music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants
> to listen to music played by a comput
On 3/17/2011 10:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
Marc Mouries writes:
This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to
music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants to listen
to music played by a comput
At 10:15 on 17 Mar 2011, Marc Mouries wrote:
> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
> deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to
> music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants to
> listen to music played by a computer?
I don't real
Marc Mouries writes:
> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who
> deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to
> music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants to listen
> to music played by a computer? Sure many times, nowadays, the
> re
Hello all,
At first, I wasn't really interested in this thread… however, it's now gotten
quite interesting.
> This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who deserves to
> create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to music made by someone
> that does not practice?" an
Graham Percival writes:
> Now, at the moment, Vivi doesn't create "good" music, and probably
> requires about 10 hours of learning. I mean, you have to write a
> lilypond file (that could be between 1 and 5 hours, for simple music
> at least), and then if you know nothing about violin, you'd nee
Is it possible to tell the NoteNames engraver to print the name for
only the first note of a sequence of tied notes?
mymusic = { c'4 c' ~ c'2 }
\score {
<<
\new Voice \mymusic
\context NoteNames \mymusic
>>
}
Thanks,
Mike
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This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who deserves to create good
music?" but rather "who wants to listen to music made by someone that does not
practice?" and who wants to listen to music played by a computer? Sure many times, nowadays,
the rendition of a computer playing
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 04:16:35PM -0400, Shane Brandes wrote:
> I suppose since I have spent so much
> of my life attempting to master keyboard instruments and having watch
> so many students progress in their own studies that it seems to me
> that one cold never hope to replicate a human at an in
On 15 March 2011 00:01, Neil Puttock wrote:
>
> You want a markup identifier, so all you need to do is put \markup
> before \score:
>
> scoreOne = \markup \score {
> c'1
> \layout {} % required!
> }
>
> \markup {
> \column {
> \scoreOne
> }
> }
>
Thanks Neil!
This works great.
B
On Mar 17, 2011, at 5:55 AM, christophe 1710 wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> i'm working on the different modal structure from a score and i woud like to
> print the half or full ton from one not to the next one!
>
> \version "2.12.3"
> \include "italiano.ly"
> \header { }
> TimeKey = { \key do \minor
> cat test.ly | lilypond -o TEST -
>
> for instance. You'll get "TEST.pdf" here.
Ok, thanks!
I had seen this before (when importing GPG keys, for example), but
apparently I hadn't got the role of - :-)
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On Thu 17 Mar 2011, 12:19 Federico Bruni wrote:
> Hi LilyPonders,
Hi!
> in Usage 1.2:
>
> "When invoked with a filename that has no extension, the ‘.ly’ extension
> is tried first. To read input from stdin, use a dash (-) for file."
>
> I wonder what's the use of stdin. Can you show a use case?
Hi LilyPonders,
in Usage 1.2:
"When invoked with a filename that has no extension, the ‘.ly’ extension
is tried first. To read input from stdin, use a dash (-) for file."
I wonder what's the use of stdin. Can you show a use case?
I'm translating the Usage manual so I want to be sure that I've
Hello all,
i'm working on the different modal structure from a score and i woud
like to print the half or full ton from one not to the next one!
\version "2.12.3"
\include "italiano.ly"
\header { }
TimeKey = { \key do \minor \time 12/8}
It looks like the LilyPond installation is no longer adding the path to the
executable to the Windows PATH. I have installed .54 and don't have it on my
path. For me that's actually good - my PATH variable overflowed and I lost all
the ones I wanted. However, for people who rely on the comman
Completely awesome. Thank you guys so much for your help. Long live
Lilyponders!!
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk
wrote:
> On Thu 17 Mar 2011, 09:13 Adam Good wrote:
>> Carl thank you for the input! Unfortunately I get an error that I
>> don't know how to do anything with. Belo
On Thu 17 Mar 2011, 09:13 Adam Good wrote:
> Carl thank you for the input! Unfortunately I get an error that I
> don't know how to do anything with. Below is my input and output.
>
> If you or anyone can help this would be a nice help to me. Thanks!
> Adam
>
> @@@
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> #(de
Carl thank you for the input! Unfortunately I get an error that I
don't know how to do anything with. Below is my input and output.
If you or anyone can help this would be a nice help to me. Thanks!
Adam
@@@
\version "2.12.3"
#(define sequence-number 0)
#(define-markup-command (score-sequence
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